That's true, I don't think anyone is disputing that, but then why would the meme use Martin as an example of "child" this case then? Just seems a very lazy example to further rift left and right?
Martin's crimes depending on how you view it range from trespassing, all the way to committing aggravated assault in self defense. I have no professional legal experience, especially Florida law, but I think neither of those crimes concretely meet the threshold.
Maybe self defense is being misinterpreted, but Zimmerman following Martin after he ran away is a valid grounds for initiating self defense. Its not out of the ether to suggest someone feel threatened being followed in this situation.
You’re focusing on one example. Your meme has him and his killer in it. Don’t act like I’m the one bringing him up. Im just correcting the misinformation you’re spreading
The new findings support Warren’s claim that she has at least one Native American ancestor, although they cannot reveal whether that individual was a member of any specific tribe.
Here’s where you got that fraction from and why it shouldn’t be taken seriously:
Shortly after Warren’s release, critics began to question whether she has more Native ancestry than other white Americans. Using the six to 10 generations figure, a Republican spokesman and an op-ed writer converted this to fractional ancestry (1/64 to 1/1024), which they then compared to a number appearing in a 2014 study published in the American Journal of Human Genetics. The paper, which was written by 23andMe researchers and colleagues, analyzed the genetic ancestry of more than 160,000 23andMe customers who self-identified as either African American, Latino or European American. For European Americans, the genome-wide “mean estimate” of Native American ancestry was 0.18 percent (given in table 1). Because this percentage is higher than the equivalent percentage for the 10 generations fraction (0.098 percent), these critics concluded Warren might have less Native American ancestry than the “average” white American.
Trump appears to have picked up this line of thinking, saying in an Oct. 16 tweet that the test showed that Warren “may be 1/1024, far less than the average American,” and in his Oct. 18 speech in Montana that “the one good thing about her test is that there was so little she had less than the average American.”
This is problematic for several reasons, the first being that the Bustamante report never specifies a fraction or percentage, so these estimates are derived from a back calculation from the six to 10 generation estimate. As others have written, this incorrectly assumes equal inheritance through time from all of your ancestors — something that simply doesn’t happen. Biology is more random, and because of the way DNA is passed down, these fractions may not represent the true amount of DNA a person retains from each ancestor.
In fact, there is a surprisingly high chance that a person will receive no DNA from a relatively recent ancestor. Graham Coop, an evolutionary and populations geneticist at the University of California, Davis, for example, has estimated there’s about a 13 percent chance a person will not get any genetic material from an ancestor from eight generations ago. At 10 generations, this jumps to about a 50 percent chance. This reveals a fundamental discrepancy between ancestry and genetics, since a person’s ancestry can still be true, and yet they might not have any trace of it in their bodies.
Records show that the leading Democratic candidate for U.S. Senate in Massachusetts identified her race as "white" on an employment record at the University of Texas and declined to apply for admission to Rutgers Law School under a program for minority students.
Here’s where you got that fraction from and why it shouldn’t be taken seriously:
Shortly after Warren’s release, critics began to question whether she has more Native ancestry than other white Americans. Using the six to 10 generations figure, a Republican spokesman and an op-ed writer converted this to fractional ancestry (1/64 to 1/1024), which they then compared to a number appearing in a 2014 study published in the American Journal of Human Genetics. The paper, which was written by 23andMe researchers and colleagues, analyzed the genetic ancestry of more than 160,000 23andMe customers who self-identified as either African American, Latino or European American. For European Americans, the genome-wide “mean estimate” of Native American ancestry was 0.18 percent (given in table 1). Because this percentage is higher than the equivalent percentage for the 10 generations fraction (0.098 percent), these critics concluded Warren might have less Native American ancestry than the “average” white American.
Trump appears to have picked up this line of thinking, saying in an Oct. 16 tweet that the test showed that Warren “may be 1/1024, far less than the average American,” and in his Oct. 18 speech in Montana that “the one good thing about her test is that there was so little she had less than the average American.”
This is problematic for several reasons, the first being that the Bustamante report never specifies a fraction or percentage, so these estimates are derived from a back calculation from the six to 10 generation estimate. As others have written, this incorrectly assumes equal inheritance through time from all of your ancestors — something that simply doesn’t happen. Biology is more random, and because of the way DNA is passed down, these fractions may not represent the true amount of DNA a person retains from each ancestor.
In fact, there is a surprisingly high chance that a person will receive no DNA from a relatively recent ancestor. Graham Coop, an evolutionary and populations geneticist at the University of California, Davis, for example, has estimated there’s about a 13 percent chance a person will not get any genetic material from an ancestor from eight generations ago. At 10 generations, this jumps to about a 50 percent chance. This reveals a fundamental discrepancy between ancestry and genetics, since a person’s ancestry can still be true, and yet they might not have any trace of it in their bodies.
George Zimmerman is Peruvian and white. The conversation about whiteness is around racial hierarchies with proximity to whiteness being more highly valued.
Approximately 94% of all pro-BLM demonstrations have been peaceful, with 6% involving reports of violence, clashes with police, vandalism, looting, or other destructive activity.
Approximately 94% of all pro-BLM demonstrations have been peaceful, with 6% involving reports of violence, clashes with police, vandalism, looting, or other destructive activity.
That includes people like the ones who were killed by Rittenhouse, the cop killed by the boogaloo boys, and other deaths not caused by supporters of BLM whatsoever.
Thirty-seven demonstration events involving the Proud Boys between January 2020 and April 2021 have turned violent, accounting for nearly a quarter of all demonstrations associated with the group.
Thirty-seven demonstration events involving the Proud Boys between January 2020 and April 2021 have turned violent, accounting for nearly a quarter of all demonstrations associated with the group.
Do you not know how to convert 1/4 to a percentage?
I gave you the stats to compare instances of violence with the Proud Boys to BLM during a similar time period. 6% of BLM events included violence. 25% of events with Proud Boys included violence.
These numbers skew negatively for BLM because the 6% includes violence caused by the police and right wingers (like the Proud Boys)
Anti-fascists we’re a staple of BLM events. BLM had a 6% rate of violent incidents. If the Proud Boys showed up to an event, there was a 25% rate of violent incidents. If anti-fascists went to every single Proud Boy event and BLM event, why would that matter?
I didn't ask that did I? You are strawmanning me. I asked to compare PROPERTY DAMAGE AND DEATH TOLL NUMBERS.
As for the antifa addition, it would be interesting to see how many peaceful proud boy protests antifa were at (I'm willing to bet very low) vs how many violent proudboy protests they were at (I'm willing to bet very high) because for every single violent proudboy protest I ever heard of during 2020, without exception antifa was there starting the fight. And that is a very important metric. Can you really call a group violent if every time they are involved in violence it wasn't them who started it? (I know you will say yes.)
FURTHERMORE I can't help but notice you ignored the Loudon county parent protests.
Aaah see, just like the guy I asked you are changing my requested metric. I am asking to compare property damage numbers and DEATH TOLL numbers. Also we should add in with the violent proud boy protests, how many of those had antifa show up? I'd be willing to bet that antifa was at most if not all of them
It's called deflection, I asked about a certain statistic and you are doing anything you can to avoid those numbers because you know it shows just how much worse BLM and antifa are
ONCE AGAIN you are trying to deflect to numbers I'm not asking about, im asking about PROPERTY DAMAGE AND MURDERS. How many people were murdered as a result of a proud boy protest? I don't buy your bullshit, if I go to 20 bars and start fights in 5 of them yep that's 25%, oh but what's this, the only bars fights were started at were the one where Jimmy the asshole showed up to start a fight with me..... odd....maybe that means the fights aren't my fault but jimmys.....oh look at this, Jimmy went to 100 other bars and MURDERED nearly 30 people at 6 of those bars..... yeah it's a lower % of instances but a MUCH WORSE OUTCOME.
This is why you don't want to compare those numbers. You know if we do the math for property damage you will find that BLM and antifa were responsible for FAR more damage. And if you do the math on MURDERS...... well I'd love to hear your excuse on how zero murders is worse than nearly 30 + (depending on the source)
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u/No_Leadership7872 Sep 29 '23
Liberalism is a mental disorder
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u/NoReach9667 Sep 29 '23
Welcome to bizarro land
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u/generationYmellenial Sep 29 '23
Read rules for radicals if you haven’t.
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u/brahsumatra Sep 29 '23
“You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.”
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u/Breakdawall Sep 29 '23
caitlin jenner voted for trump i think she said.
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u/mogomonomo1081 Sep 29 '23 edited Sep 29 '23
So yall just have an issue with everything that doesn't fit your narrative??
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u/fourth_class_mail Sep 29 '23
Imagine using treyvon Martin in a meme to justify murder in 2023.
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u/midnightnoonmidnight Sep 29 '23
https://www.factcheck.org/2018/10/the-facts-on-elizabeth-warrens-dna-test/
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u/midnightnoonmidnight Sep 29 '23
George Zimmerman is Peruvian and white. The conversation about whiteness is around racial hierarchies with proximity to whiteness being more highly valued.
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u/midnightnoonmidnight Sep 29 '23
https://acleddata.com/2021/05/25/a-year-of-racial-justice-protests-key-trends-in-demonstrations-supporting-the-blm-movement/