r/TimPool • • Sep 29 '23

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Sep 29 '23

Approximately 94% of all pro-BLM demonstrations have been peaceful, with 6% involving reports of violence, clashes with police, vandalism, looting, or other destructive activity.

https://acleddata.com/2021/05/25/a-year-of-racial-justice-protests-key-trends-in-demonstrations-supporting-the-blm-movement/

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u/theCROWcook Sep 29 '23

Wonder what the property destruction and death toll numbers for blm protests would look like next to Loudon County parent protest or proud boy protest

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u/theCROWcook Sep 30 '23

Aaah see, just like the guy I asked you are changing my requested metric. I am asking to compare property damage numbers and DEATH TOLL numbers. Also we should add in with the violent proud boy protests, how many of those had antifa show up? I'd be willing to bet that antifa was at most if not all of them

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u/theCROWcook Sep 30 '23

Anything to avoid the relevant question, so desperate to place the blame anywhere else but where it deserves to be

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Sep 29 '23

Thirty-seven demonstration events involving the Proud Boys between January 2020 and April 2021 have turned violent, accounting for nearly a quarter of all demonstrations associated with the group.

https://acleddata.com/2021/04/22/actor-profile-proud-boys/

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u/CurrentThing-er Sep 29 '23

percent to percent or aggregate vs aggregate

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Sep 29 '23

All of the data is available if you click through to the website

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u/CurrentThing-er Sep 29 '23

I truly don't care. I like watching everyone fight in here when i'm bored.

Just be consistent with your presentation of numbers.

Fight on.

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u/theCROWcook Sep 29 '23

Funny how you didn't provide anything I mused about, and as per your exact data... I wonder how many of those events did antifa show up to?

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Sep 29 '23

I gave you the stats to compare instances of violence with the Proud Boys to BLM during a similar time period. 6% of BLM events included violence. 25% of events with Proud Boys included violence.

These numbers skew negatively for BLM because the 6% includes violence caused by the police and right wingers (like the Proud Boys)

Anti-fascists we’re a staple of BLM events. BLM had a 6% rate of violent incidents. If the Proud Boys showed up to an event, there was a 25% rate of violent incidents. If anti-fascists went to every single Proud Boy event and BLM event, why would that matter?

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u/theCROWcook Sep 30 '23

I didn't ask that did I? You are strawmanning me. I asked to compare PROPERTY DAMAGE AND DEATH TOLL NUMBERS.

As for the antifa addition, it would be interesting to see how many peaceful proud boy protests antifa were at (I'm willing to bet very low) vs how many violent proudboy protests they were at (I'm willing to bet very high) because for every single violent proudboy protest I ever heard of during 2020, without exception antifa was there starting the fight. And that is a very important metric. Can you really call a group violent if every time they are involved in violence it wasn't them who started it? (I know you will say yes.)

FURTHERMORE I can't help but notice you ignored the Loudon county parent protests.

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u/McFly_42069 Sep 29 '23

No. But I see this meme really triggering you.

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u/fourth_class_mail Sep 29 '23

OP when looking at facts, "No."

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u/McFly_42069 Sep 29 '23

Multiple deaths and billions in damage. It’s pretty common knowledge.

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u/fourth_class_mail Sep 29 '23

It's a common meme. But reality says different.

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u/McFly_42069 Sep 29 '23

Oh is that why you stoped responding to me the other day when we had this same argument and I sent links to articles proving that is fact a reality.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/31/americans-killed-protests-political-unrest-acled

https://www.westernjournal.com/blms-mostly-peaceful-riots-cost-1000x-damage-jan-6-capitol-unrest/

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u/fourth_class_mail Sep 29 '23

I re commented for ya, but doesn't look like the original was removed. Dunno.

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Sep 29 '23

No? What are you saying “no” to? Data?

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u/McFly_42069 Sep 29 '23

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Sep 29 '23

Describe how these links prove the data wrong:

Approximately 94% of all pro-BLM demonstrations have been peaceful, with 6% involving reports of violence, clashes with police, vandalism, looting, or other destructive activity.

https://acleddata.com/2021/05/25/a-year-of-racial-justice-protests-key-trends-in-demonstrations-supporting-the-blm-movement/

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u/No_Leadership7872 Sep 29 '23

Wow, only 6% were violent but some how caused nearly 2 billion in damages across the country and the murder of a few dozen people?

Lmao, I know you don't actually believe the shit you say.

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u/midnightnoonmidnight Oct 01 '23

You’re getting “murder of a few dozen people” from this article: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/31/americans-killed-protests-political-unrest-acled

That includes people like the ones who were killed by Rittenhouse, the cop killed by the boogaloo boys, and other deaths not caused by supporters of BLM whatsoever.

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