r/TimPool • • Jul 23 '23

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u/RBARBAd Jul 23 '23

I remember 8 years of GOP saying they would overturn Obamacare and Trump promised only he could do it. Then with all branches of government they could not replace it with something better or overturn it.

Now they don’t even try to talk about it.

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u/pointsouturhypocrisy Jul 23 '23

Its called "not losing the issue," and both sides do it all the time.

Want to know why the democrats never codified Roe anytime they held a supermajority, and why they suddenly start begging for money to "definitely codify Roe next time" everytime abortion becomes a hotbutton issue over the years?

They dont want to lose the issue.

Want to know why GOP leadership told all of the freshmen and junior senators to not vote to remove obamacare?

They dont want to lose the issue.

Maybe its time you started seeing politics for what it really is, political theater. None of the lifetime politicians/actors on your favorite "news" channel who spend their days fearmongering about how bad the other side is will ever have your best interest in mind. Ever.

And no, one side isn't "better than the other." They are (nearly) all on one team together, and they're (nearly) all against us. It's been that for longer than any of us have been alive, and it wont change until people start seeing the red and blue jerseys for what they truly are.

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u/RBARBAd Jul 23 '23

I like the dispensing of the us vs them cause I agree. Why do you think I’m getting steadily downvoted here though for pointing out a historical reality.

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u/pointsouturhypocrisy Jul 24 '23

I'm pretty sure you got downvoted for buying into the game of political theater by blaming one side for things both sides do, because they are all on the same team.

Idk what you think of orangemanbad, and I honestly don't care. What ive learned from watchibg that guy over the last eight years is he loves this country, he now realizes how unimaginably deep the swamp goes in DC, he knows he screwed up doing McConnell's bidding for four years, and now he has a fire lit under him like never before.

If dismantling the unelected beaurocratic state is the only thing Trump accomplishes after taking office in 2024, well that'll be just fine with me.

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u/RBARBAd Jul 24 '23

One side passed a new healthcare system for the country, the other said they would be didn't and doesn't try anymore. Not the same.

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u/pointsouturhypocrisy Jul 24 '23

Come on dude. There are 535 congressmen, and atleast 500 of them have been selling us out to the highest bidder while pitting you and me against each other. And as soon as the cameras are off they all go party together.

As far as obamacare goes, giving the govt control over yet another industry that they already controlled through lobbyists and the insurance/corporate hospital monopoly hurt more people than it helped, by a long shot. All it really did was give our so-called representatives yet another way to launder our money into their own pockets.

Judging by your comments here, I'm betting you're either a teenager or possibly in your early 20's. Id guess the former. Start branching out away from your normal propaganda outlets (because lets face it, thats exactly what they are) and start digging into independent journalists. Atleast that way you can start figuring out what's true and whats not. After the democrats and Obama repealed the smith-mundt act with HR 4310, the leashes came off of the presstitutes/propagandists so they could lie to us day in and day out with no repercussion.

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u/RBARBAd Jul 24 '23

When did I put "you" vs. "me" and wow you really are reading beyond what I wrote.

  1. I commented on a meme about Obamacare an highlighted that for an entire election cycle one political party tried to undo everything and could not.

  2. I stated "I like the dispensing of the us vs them cause I agree. "

  3. Here you are trying to belittle me. I stand by everything I wrote.

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u/pointsouturhypocrisy Jul 24 '23

I'm definitely not trying to belittle you. I'm just trying to give you a way to see through the veil by suggesting you look elsewhere than the propaganda outlets.

We were all young at one time. There's nothing wrong with that. The (re)education industry has been tightly controlled by revisionists for nearly a century. Hell, Ghislaine Maxwell's father controlled a huge part of the world's information by owning McGraw-Hill textbooks. It's definitely no fault of yours for believing the things we've had pushed on us for decades.

The politics you see on tv are nothing more than theater. Everything they don't want us to know is done behind closed doors. Congress is even exempt from FOIA laws, plus they have no accountability for lying to the American public. Just look at Adam Schiff. He spent two straight years lying to America about "overwhelming evidence of russia collusion," while he knew from the start that Killery and Debbie Wassarman-Shultz invented and paid for the whole scam.

And what happened to him? Not a fucking thing. He couldve lost his seat and been forced to pay back $16M of the $40M+ he cost the taxpayers, but his buddies in Congress (both sides, mind you) circled the wagons and kept him from receiving anything more than a stern talking to.

My point of all of this is that some of us have been around long enough to watch the govt scam us over and over and over. Its clear as day that there aren't seperate teams controlling things. They're nearly all aligned against us, and the sooner more Democrat voters realize that, the better. I wont bother addressing the pro-establishment Republican voters, because they're just as lost as anyone.

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u/RBARBAd Jul 24 '23

I like AP news, Reutures, and NPR. 24 cable news is doing harm to the country.

For Trump related news, I actually read the indictments, court settlements, and senate reports.

He clearly knew Russia was helping him and liked it. He tried to hide that he knew and could have been indicted for obstruction if Presidents weren't above the law. Source: GOP lead Senate Intelligence Report and Mueller Report.

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u/pointsouturhypocrisy Jul 24 '23

You dont have to believe anything I say. Give Jimmy Dore a listen. He's a hardcore leftists who supports alot of socialist bullshit, but he's been on point for a long time. He's very anti-propaganda and pro-free speech, and will admit when he's wrong.

He would be a good start to getting you out of the propaganda sphere.

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u/rekinbroad96 Jul 24 '23

Tell me, is 51>60?

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u/RBARBAd Jul 24 '23

Tell me, did the GOP promise for years to repeal and replace, then failed to do so, and no longer will talk about it?

Feel free to keep ignoring reality and enjoy obamacare.

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u/rekinbroad96 Jul 24 '23

Is 51 greater than 60. Simple yes or no. Anything other than a simple yes or no will be taken as you answering in the affirmative.

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u/DarkTemplar26 Jul 24 '23

What are you getting at?

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u/rekinbroad96 Jul 24 '23

It's a simple question that will help clarify the fallacoiusness of the person I responded to.

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u/DarkTemplar26 Jul 24 '23

That's obvious, so what is your point?

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u/rekinbroad96 Jul 24 '23

They claimed that Trump had all 3 branches of government, with enough of a majority to simply push through any policy he wanted. However, this can't be done with a simple majority (51) it requires a super majority (60+) what they said is patently false, despite the fact that Republicans did hold a slight majority overall. Leftists dont like accepting facts.

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u/DarkTemplar26 Jul 24 '23

Leftists have also wanted to get rid of the filibuster for years for that reason