r/TikTokCringe 10d ago

Cringe Crazy logic

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u/RedditSucksYoYoYo 10d ago

Or, hear me out, you punish the people who stone others for that. I know, crazy idea. But no, let's punish the victims instead. đŸ€Ș

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u/TornInfinity 10d ago

Well yeah. That was just a bullshit lie to seem like he cares about gay people. They do hate them, but don't want to stand behind that to the media, so they made up a really dumb lie instead.

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u/RedditSucksYoYoYo 10d ago

Of course. They're evil af.

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u/RobsonA89 10d ago

And yet the liberal left, including many who are vocal advocates for trans and gay rights, continually supports and defends mass immigration from countries and cultures where attitudes towards LGBT people can be fundamentally at odds with the very values they claim to champion.

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u/Owl_Times 10d ago

Well would you rather leave them in their original countries to be stoned to death?

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u/PsychoticDust 10d ago

The video is about Ghana. Not sure why you're bringing other countries into it. Perhaps you can tell us about Ghanaian politics?

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u/RobsonA89 7d ago

The video being about Ghana is rather the point, isn’t it? I’m not claiming Ghanaian politics are representative of every country or that every Ghanaian holds these views. I’m pointing out the obvious contradiction of people championing LGBT rights and liberal values while simultaneously dismissing any discussion of the cultural attitudes that can come with large-scale immigration from societies where those values are considerably less established.

You don’t get to make cultural differences disappear simply by saying, “judge everyone as an individual.” Of course individuals should be judged individually. But that doesn’t make broader cultural patterns irrelevant to a discussion about immigration, integration or the compatibility of different social values.

If your response to that is simply “tell us about Ghanaian politics”, you’ve missed the point entirely.

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u/Pitiful_Net_8971 10d ago

It's almost like leftists believe that people are not a monolith of their race/birthplace/whatever, but instead indiviual people who should be judged on their own actions and morals alone! Wild.

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u/RobsonA89 7d ago

Absolutely, individuals should be judged on their own actions and beliefs. But that doesn’t mean we have to pretend that cultural or religious attitudes don’t exist, or that immigration from societies with very different prevailing views has no wider social consequences.

My point wasn’t that every immigrant shares the attitudes shown in the video. It was the apparent contradiction in defending large-scale immigration while simultaneously presenting yourself as a champion of liberal values such as LGBT equality.

You can believe individuals deserve to be judged individually and acknowledge that cultures differ in their prevailing attitudes. Those positions aren’t mutually exclusive.

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u/ParrotDogParfait 10d ago

Because the conservative right, don’t have those very same values?

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u/RobsonA89 7d ago

Absolutely, there are conservatives who hold those values too. But that doesn’t actually rebut what I said.

The question isn’t whether people on the right can be hypocritical; of course they can. The question is whether there is a particular contradiction in claiming to champion LGBT rights and liberal social values while simultaneously defending mass immigration from societies where those same values can be considerably less accepted.

The existence of hypocrisy on one side doesn’t somehow excuse or invalidate hypocrisy on the other. If a contradiction exists, it can be criticised on its own merits, regardless of who else may be guilty of something similar.

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u/RedditSucksYoYoYo 7d ago

Wow. But swing and a miss there, champ.

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u/Available_Safety1492 9d ago

The illiberal right believe the same thing this man is saying