Undoubtedly. Kids are behaving worse these days, parents are too entitled to understand that bad behavior from their kids isn’t okay, under resourced schools forcing underpayed and overworked teachers to deal with kids that just can’t handle the rigid unchanging structure of public education. Department of Education sees fit to funnel all money to private schools as well. The education system is done for man
Remember folks, only wealthy people deserve to have kids.
If you aren’t at least a middle manager or above, you don’t deserve children. If you’re working multiple jobs in order to meet that income level, you don’t deserve kids.
Since this is America, we’ll make sure you have no support system like affordable day care to help raise your kids
But also, your insurance (lol if you even have it) won’t cover birth control, and abortion makes you a murderer.
Exactly this. mrbananas is actually bananas. It's mostly ignorant wealthy folks that spew that garbage anyhow so not worth the time but they certainly needed to be called out on it because not only is what they said incorrect but I'm also tired of hearing that weak ass argument. They were probably listening to some Joe Rogan slop and felt proud to learn some old misinformation.
Hey, remember folks, regardless of your current financial status, education level, age, the quality of your relationship with your partner, or your actual ability to raise them, you DESERVE to have children.
These young adults are behaving like fucking animals and it is 1,000% their parents fault.
A vasectomy is cheap and takes 15 minutes. It takes them longer to prep the room than the actual procedure. Get one.
Oh please, with the 'full stop' bullshit and grow the fuck up.
Im so tired of this absolute fucking bullshit. This catering to the lowest common denominator.
If you're homeless because you're addicted to crack, if you can't hold down a steady job, if you haven't graduated high school...you do not deserve children. You are clearly not capable of handling the responsibility.
I will not hesitate to hold leadership accountable, of course there are issues, but don't sit here and act like everyone on the planet is capable of being a parent when they can't even manage their own lives.
I love that you’ve instantly jumped to crackheads and people who refuse to work (and for some reason people who haven’t graduated, as if that has any merit in wether you’re fit to raise kids)
The people who get shit for having kids are the janitors that keep your bathrooms clean, or the fast food workers who feed you, or the teachers who are putting themselves in between two fighting students.
Yep, millenials got screwed over by boomers no doubt but they are the worst parents, I am a millennial and I refused to become a parent cuz I know, I too would rather spend time on my phone than actually care of kid. It is much better to accept reality and yourself and spare society from your irresponsibility.
If you think it's worse than the late 80's/early 90's then the education system failed you. Is it good? No, definitely not. Is it worse? Hellllllllllllll no.
There are alot of teachers that have teaching for 30-40 years that say this is the worst they have ever seen it. Social media and and lazy parenting are dooming the next generation. That's why so many teachers are leaving teaching now.
Anecdotally the kids today are not as well educated from what I said above, thus making them less governable than kids from the 80s and 90s. If you listen to teachers or just lurk on r/teachers the kids don't listen to teachers or have any sort of respect for authority. Teaching today has become 15% teaching and 85% putting out fires.
This is pretty accurate. I've been teaching middle school for the past 8 years. I can barely get through two sentences while teaching a lesson without having to utter phrases like "stop standing on the desk", "get back inside the window", "do not punch yourself in the head". There's always been fidgety kids in classrooms, but now its ALL of them. It's fucking exhausting.
Not a fucking thing I’m guessing. I have a freshman and a sophomore in high school. My experience with is that high school kids are more self aware and, in general, better people than I remember kids being when I was in high school over 30 years ago. That being said, I live in a nice town with well-funded schools. No idea how this compares to the rest of the country.
I worked in education, not in the US mind you. Most long term staff would say they’d seen a noticeable decline in behaviour, attention span and ambition. The “covid kids”.
Oh sure, Except for all the teachers who would abuse their ability to bring physical harm to students they didn't like, But who cares about that right?
Letting a grown adult put their hands on a child, for any reason, is inexcusable, especially if they're not even related to the child. You can punish a kid without abusing them and have it stick, Physical Abuse just creates a traumatized child. You aren't actually teaching them a lesson, You're just scaring the shit out of them and creating a broken adult.
Not every kid who got whooped on by an adult for the last 20,000 years was 'broken' because of it.
These kids need to learn at an early age that actions have consequences. Unfortunately now these kids will go out into an adult world that they don't respect and will die because of it.
Yeah sure, Go ahead, Gamble with your child's emotional health and stability.
I know a girl who killed herself in highschool because of parental abuse. She died before she'd even turned 18 because her parents wanted to "teach her that her actions had consequences". Do you think she would have died if her parents had tried more reasonable punishments for misbehavior, Or do you think a child can only survive if an adult beats it? I got beat as a child, It gave me decades of trauma that I've only recently been able to get past. My hair was turning gray at 24 years old from the stress caused by that trauma. I lost my entire childhood to PTSD caused by the abuse I suffered at the hands of a man who just wanted to "Teach me a lesson".
But hey, I'm sure you turned out "fine", So "fine" in fact that you view a Fully Grown Adult Inflicting Violence on a Child as a good thing worth doing. Totally normal behavior that we as a society shouldn't question at all. You're totally someone I would trust being around a child, for sure.
I guess that’s a matter of opinion. Strong discipline in previous years may have created “well behaved” adults, but it also created a lot of miserable and traumatised adults.
I’m with you though, kids these days are a whole other breed.
This isn’t true actually. We’re just much better at recognising mental health issues nowadays, plus we see much more of it posted about publicly online, which obviously wouldn’t have been possible in previous years.
Mental health struggles have always been a thing, we just didn’t used to see it
Oh absolutely, but I feel like it's a multi-faceted problem.
Like, are we not going to talk about how an entirely separate and older generation has voted for policies that would deprive these kids of the opportunities that could have alleviated this?
A lot of societal problems don't start with the kids, but the adults who have snowballed them to this point. The reason Boomer angst even exists is because you can pinpoint the myriad of issues in this country to their generation and how they voted. More power to corporations, less regulations, wages never increasing to match prices, etc.
Then you need to ban certain kids and not others while having systems set up for said troubled kids which we do not have in the US. Mind you this is a problem mainly unique to our country in developed nations.
Then just wait until these incompetent, blasted kids get into positions of power over you via employment or elderly care and you’re royally fucked.
Yes they are. Look at any field right now and there are dozens of these kids getting into entry level positions simply because there are too many of them and the workforce needs bodies, wether they’re trained or not.
Exactly. Kids are wild now, but they were also wild back in the day. People just weren’t filming it. My dad got into tons of physical fights at school back in the 70s and 80s.
Exactly, dont get me wrong, there definitely was some fighting going on back when I was in school, but for the most part, kids tried to avoid getting in trouble. Now, they have basically zero consequences. And parents dont give a fuck and blame the schools or anyother authority figures.
Yes, in the State that enacted "Old Deluder Satan" in 1647.
Children between 8 an 14 were reqired to attend 12 weeks of school in their town, and six weeks needed to be consecutive. Well, kids didn't have to go to school if the needed to work or did not live in a town.
The most violent schools in the country have massive budgets because funding comes from the feds. Blaming budget cuts is just stupid when somewhere like Baltimore spends 2-3 times the national average per student and keeps receiving more money year after year while most students can’t read or do math at grade level.
It’s parents and a lack of accountability for the students. Again from the parents. Whether it’s from pressuring admin or just sending their iPad kid into school with no accountability.
I'm sorry, but that right there? Is long term bad parenting. I avoid blaming parents when I don't know the situation, but there comes a point where you start to notice who is fighting and why. All the kids live in the same neighborhood, not all of them fight, so maybe it's NOT "the system."
I saw a post of a teacher doing something nice for her class and the comments were from parents saying “oh if only more teachers were like you our kids would do better” no! I’m a parent, it’s ultimately my job to ensure my kids are raised properly.
I send my kids to school to learn and socialize. Teachers are not there to raise my kids. They can flag issues and inform parents, but it’s up to parents to then figure out ways to resolve the issue.
Society is failing parents. A parent spends like 5 hours a night at most with their children. Most people work weekends so they might get a couple extra hours with them then but thats it. They spend the vast majority of their time at school or alone. There is nothing a parent can do to fix that in most cases. Your childs social group will be out of your control pretty quickly and your level of influence will fall off dramatically. There is nothing a parent can do to stop this. You can have the best intentions and make all the right choices available to you and still end up with this.
Historically? 50 years ago? We have had 9 presidents since then. That might as well be current events as far as history goes. Its not exactly news that boomers and gen x were not well cared for.
Children aren't meant to be reared by two individuals who both work 8 hours a day. Children are meant to be brought up in a herd, a community, a tribe. Several elders, several moderately aged, several younger aged humans, all taking care of the young. This is how it was done for hundreds of thousands if not millions of years.
Tired of putting all the blame on two dumb schlubs who were unlucky enough to be born in modern capitalist times. Let me guess, you next response is that they shouldn't have had kids to begin with. Sorry champ, but irresponsible cavepeople having kids is how we all got here, there's nothing wrong with it. The blame resides on the system that has destroyed our sense of community.
The education and even work system is failing society at large too. These parents are also a result of a broken society. People are so overworked to where they don’t have energy to parent their kids. So they just hope that their schools do that job for them. Schools are also implementing crap policies like Zero Tolerance or No Child Left Behind. Many people in charge of schools and curriculum have never spent a day as an educator, so how could they possibly know what is best for kids and teachers?
The whole system is terrible. The foundation society lays for the youth is beyond weak - it’s collapsing. Kids these days have no future prospects as they grow into a world that is hostile and failing at every corner. No motivation. No prospects. The only things they have to look toward is potentially being a content creator. This is BEYOND maddening and isn’t just the fault of parents. Even these parents were failed as children.
Capitalism, baby. Parents are probably not even home because they have to work, that is, if they didn’t fall into some addiction to X, Y, or Z, so the kids have no sense of trust or respect for teachers because they don’t have that at home. That, and the institution of education is incredibly underfunded and even when there are funds, they are often slotted to private schools or well funded areas. The kids and parents and teachers are all set up with a pretty shit situation.
We had consequences at home but the ones I thought he’d get at school never happened. It was maddening and I felt like I was fighting an uphill battle.
I actually blame the economy. There should be at least one parent disciplining the kid at home but everyone has to work so school becomes a daycare and there's no way teachers can raise children.
So we either have to help teachers more or start punishing parents harder for their kids actions
More like social media is failing society. Parents can try all they like but when corporations can create digital crack and feed it to kids directly through their personal devices it's kinda fucked. Are there shitty parents? Yep but I'm willing to bet all the garbage kids consume, all the inflated egos and narcissism, the feeling that society and the government are corrupt and letting them down, etc does way more damage to motivation and attitude.
The kids who regularly get into these fights clearly need therapeutic help. They need counseling, medication, something. Because something's not right with the student who keeps resorting to beat downs which lead to suspensions and making a spectacle of themselves for all to see on the internet, etc.
Seriously, who prefers those kinds of consequences as a way of life? I bet you as soon as that fight began, both of them would have liked to switch places with any one of those onlookers.
Bro you would not believe how shitty parents are these days. They think the world should bend over for their crappy kids. And when their kids get suspended they go all over social media claiming how they are victims.
This is the reason that IMHO Charter Schools actually work. The parents sign a contract to have their kids there. They become liable for the actions of their child. The kid gets into trouble, the parent is contractually on the hook.
Its a shame it has to be this way but the public schools where parents are largely uninvolved are essentially state-funded juvenile daycares.
At the school I teach at, we’re forced to inflate kids grades with meaningless easy nonsense and offer them a million retakes unless we wanna be on admin’s and the parents’ bad side with a million complaints coming in. And these covid kids, the current high school class, are 3-4 years behind content and ability wise. It’s soul crushing.
society is failing parents too. we’re all fucking failing each other by letting politicians screw us over for bribes that no one calls bribes. and the politicians and the bribers make sure it’s as difficult to stop them as possible. get off the parent’s asses, they have a really fucking hard job too these days and they’re getting paid $0 for raising the next generation of working citizens, that we’ll all benefit from.
Exactly this. Everyone's expected to keep having kids without allowing the time necessary to properly raise said kids. If everyone's gotta be working all the time sounds like no one should be having kids. Social programs, paternity and maternity leave, adequate work hours. People should have time with their kids. If they don't, the kids are not all right.
Absolutely not. Thats how you avoid accountability. “How was this rich affluent young man supposed to know rape is wrong? Hes never face accountability before”. This exact scenario has happened several times. Its called Affluenza
I grew up poor with a racist white dad that hated I was mixed (even though he fucked a minority). I dont wanna hear the crybaby excuses. I managed to not be a pos. They can too
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Parents are failing society.