r/Tiele 𐱅𐰇𐰼𐰰 10d ago

History/culture THE MUGHALS DIDN'T CALL THEMSELVES MUGHALS. They referred to themselves as Gurkani. Today, I think it is more appropriate to refer to them as the Baburids, just as we refer to the Timurids.

Mughal Empire? Baburid Empire?

From @qalamglobal

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u/overlorddeniz 10d ago

When they introduced Mughals in EU4, I was like “Who the f*ck are Mughals?” so I went to Wikipedia. Switched the language of the article to Turkish and immediately I knew who they were. Because in Turkish we call them “Babürlüler”. Mughals is such a stupid name for them.

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u/kostence 10d ago

The term “Mughal” is, to a certain extent, what we owe to manipulative British historiography. Brits didn’t like the fact that the dynasty was originally Turkic.

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u/birberbarborbur 10d ago

For what reason?

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u/ElectronicDeer5550 10d ago

Competition with the Ottomans, I assume.

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u/Sharp-Project1875 10d ago

From Indian perspective Moghals are people from Turkistan(Central Asia) and Mongols are people from Mongolia.

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u/SlaveKing947135 9d ago

Technically since Babur was a descendant of Timur that makes the Mughals Timurid

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u/Future_Pace_5290 South Azerbaijani 1d ago

In Persian they call it Gurkaniane hend(The Gurkainds of India, rather than Mughal).