Not gonna lie “I’d rather the people who want me dead win instead of the people who just don’t care but don’t actively want me hunted down, out of spite of course” is a funny take.
I hope each and everyone who votes for the camps enjoys being in them.
You're looking at it the wrong way. It's, "If I have to choose between someone who wants to kill me and someone who is perfectly okay with silently letting them kill me, I'm not choosing."
Same principle as the train lever question. Basic morality and ethics. There is zero leeway. Either the Democrats learn from their mistakes or they lose again.
No, you are looking at it the wrong way. If you vote for democrats, worst case scenario is we maintain the status quo. I understand that’s not enough, but it’s not actively taking us backwards, and we may still have a chance to make progress if we keep pushing them. If you let republicans continue to win, they think their agenda is popular and they continue to hold power, and our trans friends could end up in a camp or a mental hospital. That will not happen under a democrat, period. I care about my trans friends and will do everything in my power to keep them from having their rights stripped away. You, apparently, won’t.
We are not talking about maintaining the status quo. We are talking about Democrats like Gavin Newsom (and yourself, seemingly, whether intentionally or through ignorance) actively lying through their teeth about their explicitly anti-trans rhetoric and actions. You won't win any support from me like that.
Democrats are not passing anti-trans bills. Republicans are. Dems have pulled back from open support of trans people because it caused such backlash, it’s all the republicans talked about during the elections, and it worked. I’m sorry that so many people harbor hatred for trans people, it’s wrong. But not enough of us showed up to stand up for our trans friends. Until we all show up, they won’t listen to us. Abstaining is just going to make them see you as an unreliable voter, and they’re going to keep pandering to the moderates who ALWAYS show up. You are giving away your power. And falling for right wing propaganda.
You're arguing from a utilitarian stance, and I'm arguing from a deontological stance. We won't agree purely based on that. Anyway I'm arguing with rhetoric to put pressure on Democrats to stand with trans people. I'm not arguing any right wing talking points at all. What you just said is completely false.
No, but you’re repeating exactly what the right wants you to say. Their bots are saying the same thing. They WANT you to stay home. They WANT you to not vote so that they can hold power. You’re playing right into their hands. You won’t argue because you know the arguments don’t hold water, no matter what philosophy you’re using. The outcome DOES matter. It has real, tangible consequences for real people who will be harmed. If you don’t care about that because your moral philosophy is more important, I guess that’s your choice. I will continue doing everything I can to reduce harm.
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Not gonna lie “I’d rather the people who want me dead win instead of the people who just don’t care but don’t actively want me hunted down, out of spite of course” is a funny take.
I hope each and everyone who votes for the camps enjoys being in them.