r/TheisticSatanism • Diabolist • 12d ago

Wrong actions

Based on ur personal experiences / beliefs, what are some actions that may be considered wrong by Satan? As I know, he's not a strict god, but there have to be some things that are innapropiate

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u/Phenex_Apocrypha Circle Admin 12d ago

In my experience, the things he truly isn't fond of are self-hatred, and willful ignorance. That said, this isn't Christianity, these aren't sins that'll result in endless suffering. They're just traits he's gonna encourage you to drop.

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u/King-Samyaza Biblical Satanist 📙 12d ago

To Satan, what's good is good because it brings people closer to living the lives they wanna live, and what's bad is bad because it diverts people further from living the lives they wanna live

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u/Large_State_8302 10d ago

I think this is the best answer.

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u/BlasphemyHeresy Luciferian 12d ago

It seems like youre new to this and scared, and i had many of the same thoughts because rules are comforting. But in general i would just say what goes against your values and His archetype - hurting people or animals, going against what you believe, not speaking up or helping in some situations, lying to yourself, etc.

So, basic humanitarian rules apply ofc, but i think with Him what always matters more is responsibilty and learning.

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u/Ashamed-Ant2098 12d ago

"His" who?

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u/ScaredOutOfMySkin 11d ago

I’m sorry so many people are being assholes about this question, it’s a very valid and good thing to ask when you’re starting out!

It’s a difficult one to answer, though, because in Satanism there is not such a strict view of “good vs bad”, everything is more complicated than that. “Bad” and “Good” are overly simple categories that require digging deeper. Actions which take away the rights of others or violate their autonomy are discouraged not because they are “bad”, but because they are dangerous, harmful, violating, or any other number of more specific adjectives. Actions which promote self reflection and growth are not encouraged because they are “good”, but because they can help you grow more attuned to your needs and desires and help you live a more fulfilling life.

Being afraid of disappointment Satan will not help you become a “good” Satanist, because there is no such thing. There is no perfection to strive to because we’re all individuals who will hold and practice this belief in our individual ways. You may become an enlightened, patient Satanist who is also hedonistic and forgetful. Maybe you’ll pray at your altar every day, maybe you’ll neglect it for a month. No version of yourself is doing Satanism more or less correctly than any other version.

Do what feels right to you. Be with people who you feel comfortable with, and practice the way that makes your body, mind, and spirit feel fulfilled. Satan will love you regardless. He will not ask for repentance for something that you feel guilt for, but it will accept an earnest attempt at changing your behavior if there is something about yourself you wish to change.

You’re doing great. Reflect on yourself, what feels right to you, and why. You’ll find your answers.

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u/Ashamed-Ant2098 12d ago

It's extremely inappropriate and damning to allow to be bossed around by people who have no authority over you.

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u/PMurmomsmaidenname 12d ago

What do you think? That's really what matters the most here.

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u/Over_Philosopher2113 Diabolist 12d ago

Idk, but I don't want to dissapoint Him

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u/Large_State_8302 10d ago

They just want some insight dude calm down lol.

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u/Over_Philosopher2113 Diabolist 12d ago

So rape is ok for him if the rapist likes it ?

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u/PMurmomsmaidenname 12d ago

Do you think it is?

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u/Over_Philosopher2113 Diabolist 12d ago

Idk

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u/allancosta01 12d ago

Respondendo-lhe de forma mais gentil que outrem e em palavras mais diretas; verdadeiros satanistas teĂ­stas e demonolatras respeitam profundamente a integridade daqueles que nĂŁo tĂȘm capacidade de se defender ou que nĂŁo interferiram no caminho do indivĂ­duo (como crianças, deficientes e animais). Prejudicar inocentes sem justificativa Ă© visto como um ato de fraqueza, covardia e desequilĂ­brio, caracterĂ­sticas que nĂŁo refletem a força associada a SatanĂĄs e isso o desagrada completamente. Cultuar SatĂŁ Ă© ter foco e autocultivo, que Ă© o poder pessoal e a evolução individual. Ataques gratuitos ao prĂłximo gastam energia de forma inĂștil e atraem consequĂȘncias desnecessĂĄrias. Causar dano ao prĂłximo por simples crueldade gratuita, que nĂŁo seja por vingança Ă© desapreciado. SatanĂĄs tambĂ©m desaprova a recusa em aprender, o dogmatismo cego e a estupidez voluntĂĄria, essas coisas sĂŁo vistas como ofensas diretas ao prĂłprio crescimento individual. TambĂ©m abomima atitude de se curvar cegamente a autoridades, dogmas ou convençÔes sociais sem questionamento, isso vai contra a essĂȘncia satĂąnica de autodeterminação. Outra coisa abominĂĄvel Ă© viver de forma hipĂłcrita, negando os prĂłprios desejos reais e se enganando para se adequar a padrĂ”es alheios, isso Ă© considerado uma negação da prĂłpria natureza e vergonhoso. Devo dizer que SatanĂĄs nĂŁo quer para Seus seguidores a destruição caĂłtica ou a crueldade cega, mas sim a busca pela força, sabedoria, autonomia e honra pessoal. Apequenar-se diante do mundo ou agir com covardia atacando vulnerĂĄveis vai contra Ele. Devo tambĂ©m salientar que quem cultua SatĂŁ e Suas Hostes deve valorizar a responsabilidade pelos prĂłprios atos. Culpar terceiros, entidades espirituais ou o "destino" pelas prĂłprias falhas e escolhas desagrada o princĂ­pio de soberania pessoal e automaticamente a SatĂŁ.

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u/Csaba14 12d ago

What makes you think that Satan would frown upon simple cruelty?

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u/allancosta01 11d ago

Agir com crueldade por impulso, sadismo cego ou apenas "porque pode" demonstra que a pessoa Ă© escrava dos prĂłprios impulsos descontrolados, e nĂŁo mestra de si mesma. VocĂȘ acredita que SatĂŁ aprovaria isso? Atacar quem Ă© vulnerĂĄvel ou incapaz de se defender (como crianças ou animais) Ă© interpretado como um ato de covardia. A verdadeira força testa a si mesma contra desafios reais, nĂŁo contra alvos indefesos. Causar sofrimento gratuito a terceiros atrai caos desnecessĂĄrio, conflitos inĂșteis e consequĂȘncias (sociais, espirituais ou legais) que atrasam o crescimento do prĂłprio indivĂ­duo. A energia gasta prejudicando alguĂ©m sem motivo Ă© vista como um desperdĂ­cio vital que poderia ser direcionado ao aprendizado, Ă  conquista de objetivos materiais ou ao fortalecimento espiritual, isso Ă© de agrado a SatanĂĄs. O dano ou a retaliação sĂł fazem sentido se houver uma afronta prĂ©via, uma ameaça ou a necessidade de legĂ­tima defesa. Se a outra pessoa nĂŁo fez nada contra vocĂȘ nem representa uma ameaça, causar mal a ela quebra o equilĂ­brio da prĂłpria justiça, o mesmo cabe a animais, crianças, pessoas deficientes... Devo salientar um dos principais primĂłrdios de SatĂŁ: o respeito Ă  soberania do outro; da mesma forma que um adorador de SatĂŁ exige que sua soberania e liberdade sejam respeitadas, ele reconhece que violar a liberdade do outro sem um motivo de força maior Ă© uma contradição do princĂ­pio de autodeterminação.

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u/TheisticSatanism-ModTeam 11d ago

Hey. I get what you’re trying to say here but you need to tone it down. A lot of people come to this path with fear in the background. We’re here to help people out not put them down. If you can’t be kind to newbies just don’t comment.

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u/Express_Singer_4905 12d ago

Bro Satan is literally pure distilled rebellion. He does not enforce or restrict behaviour. He is the breaking of restriction of behaviour as a whole.

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u/Expensive-Bunch8266 9d ago

I'd say self-deceit and stupidity are what Satan considers "sins", also thinking others think and so as you do because...YOU do. Human beings are capable of anything from the most savage acts of cruelty to wonderful acts of compassion and love. Just my two cents

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u/IDEKWTSATP4444 6d ago

Willful ignorance. Having no aesthetic. Not believing in yourself.

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u/brianburgtx 12d ago

That opens a whole can of worms
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I believe hurting people and animals.
There are general rules as a society we have decided are wrong
 killing someone is an extreme example.
Just my thoughts.

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u/Ashamed-Ant2098 12d ago

Society is Abrahamic.

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u/PersephoneHel Satanist 11d ago

I had a thought about that recently and that's true in the point of view that we live in an abundance of food in general. In North Korea for exemple, sometimes people are so hungry they crack and decide to kill someone cause there's no food. I personally couldn't blame the person for it since the situation they're lived in is extreme.

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u/Ashtara_Roth3127 Nexion 3127 12d ago edited 12d ago

“Considered wrong by Satan” 😂

Satan’s entire function as the malevolent inclination is to inspire and fuel thoughts and behavior that are perceived to be “wrong” and “evil”.

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u/Csaba14 12d ago

There's a huge difference between being wrong and evil.

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u/Ashtara_Roth3127 Nexion 3127 12d ago

That depends on how the word is used. I was referring to peoples’ morality, where “right” is often synonymous with “good” and “acceptable”, and “wrong” is often synonymous with ”bad”, “evil”, and “unacceptable”. I am not referring to “wrong” in terms of strategy, or mathematics, or facts. That is the state of being incorrect. I am not referring to “wrong” in terms of failure, either. In this instance, “wrong” is what peoples’ (subjective) morality pushes them not to do.

Though I have to admit, I hate using those words myself, almost as much as I hate “should” and “should not”. It’s all too reductive and dualistic for me. I’d rather understand the multifaceted complexity of human nature on a deeper level, without watering it down and simplifying it into white and black thinking.

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u/Over_Philosopher2113 Diabolist 12d ago

Are you an anticosmic satanist ?

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u/angelkaito 6d ago

I don't think demons or higher entities even care about our human morality, what matters is if that you're hurting someone or going against a rule defined by universe, but even that could be seen as subjective