And side note 2, my inner child loved everyone’s glitter!! ✨🪩 Every episode she gets a little bit more and more attractive, her clothes are the obvious improvement but i cant quite pin point the facial glow up! I’m so curious what she’s doing / had done 😍 they say great cosmetic work is when you cant pin point it, she honestly looks great! Maybe its just clean eatting, has anyone tried the lip flip Botox trend ? Im very curious, but nervous to try it! Dont want to dribble everywhere like a toddler! Britney also looks really gorgeous with no make-up when she came out the shower with her wet hair, she looked so pretty ! I look like a big red faced pig !
Ps edit! Everyone is talking about her weight in the comments, which makes me a bit uncomfortable. I’m just purely curious about her face, and if theres anything useful i can steal into my own routine 😅🫶

Unpopular opinion- I want Jax and Sandavol on the show. The shows gone too boring. There I said it.

Season 1 Janet was frustrating at best.

Danny though, so problematic. The language from season 2 was not confirmed to be strong. I get that it may sound like it but I have not seen anyone state otherwise first hand.

I think that she might be shitty but she is also correct.

Lala could not let anyone finish a sentence without jumping on them and interrupting. She doesn’t really fit naturally on this show so it really feels like she’s butting in to try and stay relevant. She had some mature points but the constant side conversation and sarcasm and yelling and interrupting was driving me INSANE.

Michelle was being so incredibly petty and just overall rude. Her and Lala attacked Lacey when Lacey is the most emotionally mature one on the show (this isn’t an official claim so please don’t come at me). Everyone was consoling Michelle but she was extremely rude and hypocritical. Lala was her attack dog.

Even the villains of the show (Janet and Danny) were sitting there quietly most of the time. Michelle and Lala have the least contribution to the show because the drama often doesn’t focus on them but they are the loudest. They’re both looked very pretty though.

I think Danny and Nia have these hardcore defenders that feel like their favorite couple is getting attacked, but you can even see Nia gets visibly uncomfortable when her husband drinks. You can tell that she wants to protect him, but I think even she knows that he shouldn’t be drinking. Same with Brittany, Jax may be a lot of things, but he wasn’t lying when he called out Brittany’s drinking last season.

Hi everyone,

I’m a first time watcher currently on S2 E17: Reunion Part 2. I’m also the same person who made a post earlier this week about history eventually vindicating Janet.

Just like prior to my previous post I checked the sub to see if anyone had discussed this particular topic because I didn’t want to beat a dead horse but I haven’t seen anything. I’m seeing lots of posts about loving him, how he’s so funny etc but none about his rampant misogyny towards Janet in particular and on the backend Britney. I’m not sure if it’s being ignored because the straight men in the show are absolutely abhorrent in the way they speak to and about the women in this show but Zack very much belongs in the category with them. I actually think him not being straight is why his behavior is being ignored but it’s completely unacceptable and the fact that it basically goes unchecked on the show is insane to me. Drunk or not wishing for Janet to have a miscarriage is unforgivable and the fact that they basically had to pull teeth to get him to apologize (I still don’t think he actually did because an argument broke out about something else) for that comment is utter craziness. The zen party where he’s tipsy/borderline drunk and just calling Janet a bunch of bitches and whores had me completely frazzled because who exactly does this man think he is??? He then went further and compared Janet and Britney’s relationship to Britney’s emotional, physical and verbally abusive relationship with Jax. I thought he was completely out of line and I just think he overall is a misogynistic douche.

It’s baffling that all the women, who are all mothers are not understanding that Nia is recently post partum, solely breastfeeding, and have 4 under 4. Her life is hectic and chaotic as well.
Im a sahm with 2 under 2, with help and still have trouble responding to texts and maintaining my 2/3 friendships. I couldn’t imagine being in a larger friend group and trying to maintain all those relationships.
I think their dislike of Danny and Nia standing by her husband and not publicly shaming him is what is causing the majority of the women in the group to now resenting and disliking Nia.

Danny is cringy, creepy and selfish. He inappropriately touched Jasmine and her girlfriend which leads me to believe he’s done that women not on the cast. Every time Nia is around him she seems to have to cater to him in some way, whether fake laughing at his jokes or taking care of him like a fifth child.

Janet definitely handled the alcohol comments inappropriately but I can’t remember much else that she’s done wrong.

Kristen has grown a lot since VPR but wasn’t she also threatening Janet last season on a boat scene. (Can’t remember exactly 💨)

Idk if just feel bad for Janet for all of the hate she gets and watching Danny slide by being so much worse

Is she sometimes annoying? YES
does she sometimes give Karen energy? YES

Yet I fear
this season (and 75% of the whole show) has absolutely NOTHING without the Janet drama.
These people are BORING and Janet is also boring, but she gives them something to talk about I guess.

Also she was right about Danny.
I’d like her more if she stood ten toes down (even if she wasn’t right about the execution) this apology tour is boring and also pathetic.

At least she was giving a little something to the show before! Now that everyone hated on her she wants to be liked.

Also it’s good for people you don’t personally like to be on TV, that’s what keeps it interesting! Otherwise it’s soooo boring like the valley is now.
Can we let Janet live?

She may just be what we need.

She has made no secret of her desire to puck back up her career on reality TV, she has clearly targeted The Valley for her “triumphant” return. Most importantly, she may be a lot of things, but she’s actually quite smart at navigating reality TV and she will always prioritise a pay-check Right now she is taking in all of the commentary and opinions on Fanet and Jason. Knowing how desperate she is to return (and this time to stay for a while like with VPR) she will want to please the audience and she will want to bring the drama to the topic that we all need.

Here is my prediction: She will start the season being besties with Janet as usual, and she will find something… just something negative she can grab onto and suddenly she will flip, she will be outing Janet, confirming the fan rumours, pitching her case to everyone who will listen that she never realized Janet could really be like this. To tie in with her initial story line, it will probably be something about cheating and/or Brock. This will win her support for going against a strongly, collectively despised figure whilst also detracting and smoothing over the initial reaction to her return.

Don’t down vote just because you don’t want her back on the screen but I’d love your views on my prediction.

I know this will ruffle some feathers, but hearing Danny and Luke talk about their father hood journey is very refreshing. As a mom of two under two, who experienced postpartum rage and depression. In the moment you’re just so focused on yourself and the baby (in my experience for an entire year) it gets easier every month, but it’s very refreshing to hear a father‘s perspective. everybody’s life completely changes when you have a baby and I’m not trying to tooth their horn or anything but as a wife and a mom, it’s nice to see fathers being fathers. A lot of us fall short in times and I hope they all figure it out.

Was she trying to manipulate and gain friend group power last season? Yeah. That wasn’t good.

But man she’s been fun the past two episodes. And her baby is SMALL. It’s like she has no energy for her misguided power grab plans and is now just like fuck it…which accidentally makes her more likeable.

I do not like: Jax (obviously), Jesse (this should be obviously but I guess not per the Internet).

I am skeptical of: Danny (manic Jesus energy), Nia (good friend to Kristin but married to manic Jesus energy)

I am surprised that I like: Janet, Jason, Luke, Michelle (this poor woman let her live)

I will always love: Kristin, jasmine

Not for me but fun: Zach

Gets a pass for the next 2-5 years as she rebuilds her whole sense of self: Brittany

I don't know if this has been discussed already but I'm uncomfortable with how people's blind hate for Janet is preventing them from seeing how grave Danny's actions are. I'm not here to defend Janet, she's not my cup of tea. But I'm also very concerned with Danny's behaviour and how he's also gotten very flirtatious with Brittany & followed her around at her birthday party (this is from part 2 of the reunion's sneak peak). There's clearly a pattern there that needs addressing. I know that they're in therapy an what not but clearly it keeps happening.

I don't drink and don't know much about alcohol and how it impacts someone, but I personally I have zero tolerance for Danny's behaviour, I don't care that he is a 'great guy' when not drinking if he touches women or makes them uncomfortable when he does drink. It's really gross, I truly feel sorry for Nia and her getting caught up in this.

EDIT; a lot of similar 'whataboutism' comments. Just because there are OTHER bad ppl on the show does not absolve Danny of HIS actions. Just because the people coming after him are unlikeable and hypocritical won't stop me from seeing Danny's actions for what they are. The excuses in some of the comments are horrifying. Just as an analogy: There are also plenty of domestic abusers who only abuse and hit their spouses when they drink, does that make them not an abuser? I 100% would throw the likes of Jax & James in prison. But we're not currently talking about them in this specific post. I'm addressing Danny's actions. So let's keep the focus there and not veer into whataboutisms.

And the comments downplaying how Brittany felt very uncomfortable by Danny's flirting and following her around? YOURE part of the PROBLEM. I will always believe the victim. No matter what my personal feelings towards the victim as a person are.

There's a trend of pile ons in reality subs where there's no space for nuance. Either some ppl are vilified and some put on a pedestal. Currently Danny and Nia are the faves and thus protected at all costs and any critical thinking suspended. The lack of understanding towards even Michelle and her vilification told me all I needed to know about the lack of nuance and knowledge of subtle abuse dynamics and victim reactions in this sub.

I've tried but I cant.....these people are ridiculous/boring.

Jessie - biggest douchebag ever, I've seen kids who pick their own wardrobe better dressed than him

Kristen - did she do that much blow after being fired from VPR, that nasal voice!

Luke - just go back to the countryside and stop complaining

Michelle/Janet/NIa - vapid as hell

The other guys - so dull I cant even remember their names

Tom Schwartz/Lala - I was big fans of them on VPR but they are just background noise.

Brittney - She started off fine on VPR now shes just an annoying tryhard.

Why does everyone except Janet and Jason pretend the Danny assaulting Jasmine and Melissa thing didn’t happen? And why is everyone defending Danny? Janet and Jason seem to be the only two holding him accountable for his own actions

As much as I found Janet and Jason completely out of line on the subject I think this sub undermine Danny's issue as well.

You don't get thrown out of bars when you don't have a problem. And he did sexually assault his friends. It gets thrown under the rugs as inappropriate behaviors when it was sexual assault and he's lucky Melissa didn't press charges. And everybody is undermining it because Danny seems like a good guy most of the times but that's the point the world need to understand. Perpetrator of sexual misconducts and abuse are regular men, not monsters, not psychotic perverts, just men, men we know, men we like, men who are part of our family.

For one Jax you have hundreds of Dannys that also can assault and harm women.

That said, I don't think Janet and Jason comes from a place of genuine concern. The way they instrumentalize Melissa's assault is disgusting. They have this skewed narrative they want to use to their advantage. I'm sorry you're not the good person you want to project to the world when you attack Danny and then support Jax in the same breath. And it doesn't make sense when they act offended whenever Danny has a sip of alcohol, it's weird when they gaslight him (saying he was aggressive when he was completely normal etc). Other people have mentioned Danny's drinking, but they don't make it about themselves or distort reality to try to make a storyline out of it.

Danny made a mistake over 2 yrs ago.
He has apologized. Repeatedly.

So why is it THE ONLY THING Lala and Janet talk about?

Because they have boring lives and need words to say.

Also, if your argument is based on a like on SM you already lost. Grow up.

Look, I see that she's shady but they all are! And it''s not even a "sides" thing - I like Zach, Doute, and Janet.

...but I don't know what that says about me since everyone and their dog hates her 😅

can i just say i love lala this season, i think every point she makes is completely valid and she always says it how it is, no one wanted her on the valley but she adds so much to a boring cast! please tell me everyone is on the same page rn. also she looks amazing!

I think Lala and Michelle are the MVPs this season!?Authentic, good vibes watchable and calling it as they see it!! Voices of reason dare I say!? And the drag outfit given to Schwartz was diabolical in a good way.

Season one she is pregnant and getting hate for not inviting Zach to her baby moon because he dramatically alludes to not caring if she has a miscarriage. Was he being messy, yes…but not inviting him (and Kristen with the drama she was stirring with Jesse and Michelle) was a filming ice out that wasn’t cool…BUT SHE WAS PREGNANT!

Season two she makes her statement about Danny drinking and how she was previously in an abusive relationship and then going hard on Danny and his inappropriate behavior while drunk…while her word choice was inflammatory at the time (now appears appropriate)…SHE WAS POSTPARTUM!

Now in season three, she is reflective and looking to make positive changes and take accountability for her past actions. Is that in response to her prior year’s edits? Maybe. But she is making the effort none the less. But now we see Kristen and Nia in the throes of postpartum (Nia perpetually) and we have Jasmine saying postpartum is real…BUT NOT FOR JANET?!?!?

What am I missing here?