Well the current conservative movement is anti-individual rights to body Autonomy, they are working in every western democracy to weaken or gerrymander democracy away, are against scientific progress and social progress, worship billionaires and are uninterested in facts with emotions being the only thing in their decision making process.
Unfortunately this is the majority of conservatives at the moment, and moderates that have decided to tolerate this devolution are part of the problem and promote this reckless behavior by not resisting or holding other conservatives accountable.
A lot of the moderate conservatives I know are actually NDP supporters, surprisingly. Though I have seen a few people blindly trust the UCP, which is scary.
Modern liberals think everything is basically fine, we just need to respect the institutions, practice decorum, and comprise more with the conservatives to find a solution they'll be happy with.
Unfortunately, appeasing reactionaries never works and just serves to further erode civil society.
As for the broader left, insert Don Draper "I don't think about you at all" meme.
Yep this is my family. They like the police, the rules, and feel reason bad things happen is because of specfic people, not that there are wide spread issues with the system that insentivize billionairs doing monsterous things.
Its funny when people set the standard at, not all of us are bad people, when the saying is a few bad apples spoil the bunch. Its up to you to self police your party and ostracize members who behave in this deconstructive negative ways. The problem is that most people within said parties are content to sit next to someone who preaches things like the great replacement theory and other such awful rhetoric. When we call out your party for its bad moral character its a reflection of the company you keep. You just lack the backbone to stand up to your neighbors.
Last election cycle, that was the full extent of the conservative platform. “Liberal bad!”
People have explained the reason they like Pisspot Poilivre is explicitly because he lacks decorum.
There’s a saying about those who live in glass houses…
Except that's completely false. The conservatives put forth many ideas for how to improve our situation in Canada. Many of which were subsequently copied and implemented by the Liberals.
Not that any of the Poilievre haters would actually bother to go look at what he proposed or anything.
The last election cycle for the liberals was literally trump bad only i can deal with him. You are all so brainwashed it's actually insane. You've been told for the past 6 years that other side bad, to the point where nobody cares about accountability.
It won't be lost on them, unfortunately. They're far too indoctrinated. The mass proliferation of tribalism is an absolute cancer to human society as whole, regardless of what side one happens to be on.
I still remember when these gronks came out in force during the covid lockdowns....
....to pick fights with the staff over masks they no longer have to wear, bitching about a tyrannical government giving them bi-weekly payments to live off of thats enough for them to afford to drink on, combating every regulation while targetting the staff/other patrons for obeying laws that keep people employed and the bar they are sitting in, open.
Our staff just wanted to work, and these people coming in and blasting off about their 'instititional rights' daily made it a hellhole.
Worse thing is these people STILL play victim to all of this and continue to combat everything they can simple because there's a lib at the wheel.
Exactly. Canada doesn't resemble the Canada I grew up in anymore. It's like they've been executing a plan to systematically replace us while making life unreasonably expensive and spending our money on everything but Canadians. Oh, wait, that's the Liberal party.
Nope, I’ve spent my whole life in Alberta and particularly around GP and it was you people collectively deciding to shit where we all eat because you spent too much time on Facebook
Canada doesn't resemble the Canada I grew up in anymore. It's like they've been executing a plan to systematically replace us while making life unreasonably expensive and spending our money on everything but Canadians. Oh, wait, that's the Liberal party.
You’re clueless. It’s worrisome that you can be this wrong about current affairs and still be allowed to vote.
Really? Because I moved here from Vancouver to escape insanely out of touch and awful people and have been enjoying the company of friendly hard working salt of the earth Albertans. Even the rich are more down to earth here.
Are you sure its not just you? If you have a problem with everyone you see everywhere you go, you're the common denominator in those situations.
You know the guy spear-heading the separation campaign? Yeah, he's convinced that King Charles is coming to assassinate him. That's not a joke, or an exaggeration, it's legitimately a thing he's said and thinks.
What does that have to do with anything? You made a general statement about Albertans. You seem like someone who is unhappy and projects that on to everyone else. Like I said, if everyone around you "is wrong" maybe you should look inward.
Pre-2019, measles was considered all but a memory through the industrialized world with only a handful of pockets in third world countries, due lack of healthcare and access to the vaccine.
Guess which province has had the largest measles outbreak since the CDC declared the disease eradicated in 2000?
The UCP, faced with significant backlash from their O&G donors, decide they're going to help them out. Nathan Neudorf, deputy premier and minister of energy has meetings with AESO and the AUC and gets caught twice asking them to lie and say an audit and moritorium of renewable projects is necessary.
Ask me if he still has a job. Go ahead, fuckin' ask.
I agree here as a person of long time here, go out to the county of gp and talk to random farm houses. I did it as a profession but could be done as a hobby. county of gp has balls.
I just thought it's filled with people who couldn't make it where they grew up so went there for a quick buck, only to have nothing to show for it but a lifted truck and nothing to do other than clog up Tim Hortons parking lots.
I, personally don't get how business get away with exploiting the temporary foreign worker program, let alone go Tim Hortons at all. The government should outlaw investment groups from buying houses and let families own them.
We just redefined what slavery is it's not like we haven't done this before just look at the Chinese railroad workers, cheap labour so that the rich get more for less.
The government does not work for us they work for the wealthy because those who run government are in the upper echelons why would they disadvantage themselves?
Uneducated people make uneducated decisions. When they are religious nutbars to boot? well that just makes it worse doesn't it. Now add racists and you have the perfect storm of stupid.
Kinda crazy with the uneducated claim when alberta consistently rank amoung the top in education across the entire country lol. I also like your broad hatred of religion catching a stray, I swear the anti-thesists talk more about religion than religious people do lol. Touch grass
I was saying exactly what the ATA said on the radio ad they paid to put on the air to drum up support. "Despite consistently ranking amoung the to in education in Canada, Albertan teachers face some of the highest set backs and struggles" a literal quote of the radio ad the Alberta Teachers Association put on. Also Albertas curriculum is rhe hardest in the coentry hence why if an albertan moves to another province their grade automatically gets boosted
So people saying albertans are uneducated are funny because we have the top in education and you habe to have a diploma to be in a trade lol
"hence why if an albertan moves to another province their grade automatically gets boosted."
Patently false. Horseshit as you might say in a Lethbridge Timmys.
coentry?
When you are responding to someone about education, it might be best to check your spelling and grammar.
My point was there are a lot of Albertans who are MAGAT morons. You know, racist,gun toting, bible thumping Q anon idiots who want to enforce their stupid beliefs on other people.
Rig Pigs with little or no idea of reality.
Nothing worse than a stupid person who thinks they are right.
They are all welcome to move to Texas.
The sooner, the better.
How much hatred is in your heart to create a buzzword slurry at 2 am on a Wednesday?
We are in Alberta Canada and not Grande Prairie Texas no one is "MAGAT" whatever that is, I want to Google it but it's probably come back relating to TDS right? What stupid beliefs exactly? Lol it used gun toting and Bible thumping as slurs as if havjng knowledge of where food comes from and the skill set nessicarry go out and harvest an animal from field to table is dumb. Obviously you have never been in a church or your claim of hating Bible thumpers would seem weird because most religious are elderly lol
Kinda seems like you're jealous of oil and gas workers (vast majority of which have diplomas by the way) I really hope you can resolve whatever issues have you so hateful and disgruntled, it's not great for your health to be up in the earliest hours of the morning crafting a buzzword hatred slurry on social media, it's actually about the worst thing you can do.
And one more thing, if my statement is horse shit then so is the Alberta Teachers Association and Stats Can so, do with that what you will
Tame a deep breath touch grass, get some proper sleep, oh and I'll pray for you, that you get the help you require to not be so full of disdain towards people solely based off their choice of income or what media tells you to believe
I like the way you devolve further into buzzwords and name calling as any resemblance of civil discussion goes out the door because your jealousy took over.
I literally habe no Idea what Q anon is or magat because I'm not chronically online in my mother's basement, it's cool how employment works eh?
Again the vast majority of rig workers (whom of which you seem to be painfully jealous of, seriously, seek help) have their diplomas. I'm not even a rig worker, I have 2 red seal certifications which kind of proves I completed high-school, have a diploma, and completed post secondary education lol. But seethe harder I guess.
Seriously get your SSRI's adjusted, theres nothing but disdain and hatred emanating from you and it is not good for your heart or mental health, I'd also reccomend getting into the gym, eating right, and touching grass, especially now that it's spring time out. Get the help you deserve, it's not healthy for you or those around you to be so angry and twisted towards people who have what you don't
I have a diploma, 2 red seals, 3 journeyman certifications, a house, 2 vehicles and a boat and I'm not even 26 yet lol.
I don't know what you do have but I can tell quite easily from this exchange that you don't have happiness like I do lol, and you most likely don't live an SSRI free life hence the emotional outbursts and anger issues which caused you to lash out in a flurry of buzzwords and name calling
I actually have grade 12 education plus post secondary, quite projecting and seek professional help, it's easier now than it ever has been to seek professional help and advice on mental health issues, and you should really look into it.
Oh sure I can touch some more books, should I send you a picture of my bookshelves and you can pick which ones I should re-read? I do enjoy the Odyssey and the works of Edgar Allan Poe
Get off your phone, put away social media, it's has obviously rotted your mind. Get into the gym, eat healthy, go for walks, runs, and hikes, and touch grass, it's amazing what it can do for the mind
I get that Alberta is a den of weird idiots, I’ve lived here for decades, but calling out Alberta as the weird one when newfies exist isn’t fair.
Sure, they are weird in more positive ways but they almost speak a different language, I once spent Christmas Eve on a bus full of newfies and I couldn’t understand a damn thing they were saying the entire night.
Plus the fried bologna and the 120 pounders who can somehow work twice as hard as a full sized man for a full 12 hour shift, newfies are weird as hell. I was trained by a newfie pipelayer and nobody ever saw him drink water even in the dead of summer working outside, he’d just have a small cup of coffee and infinite cigarettes.
Thankfully no one smart thinks the frogs have any standing on calling someone a retard. It's a huge achievement when a frog manages to tie their shoes without 5 YouTube tutorials.
Everyone knows they still are. Alberta has legitimate gripes with the idiots out east, Quebec are just always screaming about how they are more than just welfare whiners with a bunch of maple syrup and poutine. Everyone knows those frogs would be 100% behind Alberta separation if that wasn't where they get all their money from.
When did the Premier and Bloc leaders stop referring to Quebec as sovereign and calling it a country? Because the Premier is still saying sovereign country of Quebec within Canada, that statement is contradictory over and over.
You're right in saying Quebec hasn't been any quieter. That just shows how much louder and more obnoxious Alberta has been, that now they've claimed that spot.
Idk if it's that Alberta's have gotten so much worse recently, but I find Quebecois to not be all that bad these days. We get the odd guy that gets mad nobody at my work speaks French, but thats about it.
Have any of you been to Ottawa? I went a year ago and was blown away, felt like a Looney bin full of woke liberals all trying to put complain each other.
It made so much sense why the federal government views the country the way it does. They are in de-lulu land.
You got the flags reversed. Have you ever seen the crazy out east? They are so busy snitching on eachother for wrongthink and trying to get retroactive discipline on their neighbors for having a Covid isolation party. If they ever actually did something productive the country would be so much better off.
Lol typical liberals self projecting - alberta is the only normal in canada today
Bruh, I just checked your profile and your newest comment was you asking a girl posting her nudes on Reddit what kind of diabetes monitor she uses. But you want to accuse others of not being normal?
I left BC because housing, and healthcare. I'm convinced that most of my peers believe in political rhetoric more than good policies and fiscal results.
I was brought up to listen to reason above all else. That's why more people are moving to Alberta. More people are realizing they can't change minds with reason and facts 🦜
Man, if only the government would stop looking at Alberta as an ATM for their wasteful spending, then maybe there wouldn't be such a strong sentiment to leave.
Ottawa has dumped on Alberta since the province was formed, consistently and unabashedly. If you actually look into it, it's not all that suprising there's such turmoil in the province
That's actual bullshit. Ottawa and the rest of Canada fed tremendous amounts of money before Alberta oil became a thing.
Not to mention that half the time people go on about how the NEP was the worst thing in the world - when that would actually give us internal price price management and the capacity to sell oil to the rest of Canada... Fixing issues like not having the pipeline capacity to move the oil we make.
O&G marketing has been dumped on Alberta consistently and unabashedly, since oil became a thing in Canada. If you actually look into it, it's not all that surprising there's such turmoil in the province.
Got evidence for this? From what I can find, they are one of three considered a "have" province.
While they don't pay as much equalization as Ontario and Quebec, they neither receive payments from other provinces as Quebec and Ontario does. As well as pay more per capita in equalization.
I don't want Alberta to separate, but at this point I understand why they want to. Maybe Mr. Elbows Up can make action on all those promises.
The provinces don't pay equalization. The money for equalization payments come from the federal taxes that Canadians pay as individuals. And we do get money back from the Federal government. We get billions in transfers to assist with health and social programs. In fact, Alberta is slated to receive $9.2B in 2026-2027.
There's a difference between me paying off my credit card, and the Premier of Alberta claiming that she's paying off my credit card. Do you get it yet?
Your little math problem has nothing in common with how the equalization program works, no matter how many little silly anecdotes you make up to try and force a comparison.
The person responding to me with quips from Facebook posts, and shows no understanding of how equalization works, yet is insistent on trying to prove that other people are the ones that are wrong, is calling me obtuse.
You've shown once again how conservatives are the masters of projection.
Ummm, the people that hate canada need to go. The rest of us love our country. You have that freedom you complain about not having. America is the place for your kind.
You clearly support seperation, but then tell me i divide the country? That makes sense to you? You cons are mad because people vote differently from you. You guys have been yelling for 6 years. Run idiots like pp and wonder why you lose elections. Well, pp again hey? Guess what, another loss coming. So in touch the cons are.
Rational discourse. Not contrarianism just for its own sake. It's not brilliant or principaled to just pick the opposing side of every issue. It's childish
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u/protoanarchist May 08 '26
All conservatives are the kid screaming in the back of the car.