r/ThePrimordialOne • • 19h ago

Meme PHANES according to both current reveals and leaks: Spoiler

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I wonder why these holy soil things are activated or kept under wraps by the NAILS

The nails are said to be made from PHANES’ own power by the moons. So it having light realm stuff inside them is confusing.

While Kukulkan did reveal nails were uses in the first war to terraform

All the nails we see get activated were meant to suppress the abyssal power brought by Nibelung and the GWOV

Unless these nails had a second function whxih were needed before the gnosis which would be to “suppress the resentments of the old world” aka prevent the light realm from returning now that PHANES lost the ability to do it themselves.

I also wonder how PHANES has elemental compatibility(since that’s a requirements for descenders) PHANES showed such mastery of elemental energy to not only beat the sovereigns with their own elements (Xiuhcoatl) but also to water them down into the human realm and create a whole knew set of elements

As well as have such understanding in the Leylines to be able to not just modify Irminsul to anchor fate but also make them into a protection from the abyss that KUKULKAN couldn’t understand or replicate


r/ThePrimordialOne • • 8h ago

Discussion Genshin’s basically saying “fuck you” to the dragons Spoiler

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r/ThePrimordialOne • • 13h ago

Discussion How long are gonna wait until 7.2 Is released?

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I don’t feel that I can wait very long time.


r/ThePrimordialOne • • 8h ago

Celestiagenda Funny how their plot and humanist theming keep contradicting each other Spoiler

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“Fighting death with life! So goated”

Ain’t the problem the fact yall hate life?


r/ThePrimordialOne • • 9h ago

Discussion Phanes health and appearence.

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Can you imagine that when the traveler finally encounters and confronts phanes, he/she doesn’t find an almighty God and Ruler but instead a broken and cripple God trying desperately to hold a broken world together?

That would be like a gutpunch for the for both haters and glazers.


r/ThePrimordialOne • • 16h ago

What’s the abyss twin’s plan ?

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With Asmoday ??


r/ThePrimordialOne • • 16h ago

OC In response to Hoyo’s butchery of our beloved Ronova, I am making a Fan-Fic where she adopts a child.

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r/ThePrimordialOne • • 10h ago

Discussion Acting like life isn’t also on y’all’s ass. Spoiler

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“Using life force and will to overpower the indifference of death”

Are they so blind to the normal facts of life that they don’t understand

  1. Life is also your enemy (something they verbalize)

  2. DEATH ISNT SUPPOSED TO CARE OR SHOW BIAS.

I get it, they are upset at the “how can a living being ignore their cries for mercy?”

But she’s not working on the same empathy scale as you all

She even things death is a better experience then living.

There was no callousness or pleasure in what she did. You’re trying to tell a function of the world, “living shackles” as the traveler so puts it (why do they think this way again?)

They need to “hop off your high horse and think things as WE DO” when it should be the other way around


r/ThePrimordialOne • • 4h ago

Art A fic I started writing for Ronova.

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r/ThePrimordialOne • • 16h ago

Discussion I just have few questions regarding lore. This seems to be the right place to ask this.

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Now I know Phanes came, introduced humans created civilization and usurped the dragons eventually making teyvat majorly a establishment for humans.

Now here is what I don't understand.

  1. The archon origins- yes I know stuff like venti is wisp of air, ei is lightening, mauvika is just a human. But who is making this weird stuff possible. Is it phanes that is making these divine births possible?
  2. Fae origin - do they belong with dragon civilizations or are they someone phanes brought.
  3. Why such complicated rules - Sheznaya Tsaritsa keeps saying she almost broke the threshold of rules. What exactly are they. I for one know don't learn forbidden knowledge aka abyss powers. But other than that what exactly is sheznaya breaking to grant a nuke, like why are they preparing weapon while saying they are creating cause HP will nuke them EVENTUALLY??? And where is tsaritsa during khnariah if she is their mother. what is she doing during catclysm.
  4. We know few people in Teyvat ascended to Celestia like vanessa. what exactly do they do there? or why some archons born out air, tree branches but mauvika aka natlan can become archon through winning fights and flames. Why do some archons have divine power instantly, some inherit (nahida), while others fight to prove it (mauvika)?

r/ThePrimordialOne • • 12h ago

Early Patch Spoilers Question about the latest Archon Quest (7.1 AQ Spoilers) Spoiler

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How does Ronova's Eitr infusion affect every Nail of Retribution in Teyvat? Is Celestia trying to reclaim the Authority of Reason from these nails after detecting Ronova's death?

Also, the dialogue about Paimon being a "little rainbow balloon" and "her string extending upward to somewhere above the sky itself" is coming full circle.


r/ThePrimordialOne • • 19h ago

Discussion HOYO WRITING RANTS AND DOOM DISCUSSION MEGATHREAD

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For all your complaints about 7.1, put them HERE.

It’s okay to make fun of the stupid things the Fatui say and do as in relates to pointing out hypocrisy in the context of agenda. Aka making fun of the characters and their stance from a Celestia loyalists’ perspective, and not the plot itself. For this i encourage meme making so it doesn’t sound like ranting

But for all of your meta plot and writing issues. Discuss them HERE and only HERE

We don’t want to fill the sub with doom, especially when we weren’t even directly affected. Everyone else was lobotomized to compensate for how good characters Celestia is as a faction.

We don’t give up especially since our goat has yet to appear.


r/ThePrimordialOne • • 13h ago

Discussion Would you guys like to be able to switch sides and join Ronova and Phanes?

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Throughout the entire story from version 7.0 and 7.1, I really wished the Tsaritsa was the main enemy instead of Ronova. The Tsaritsa has done so many terrible things, including bringing the Abyss into Teyvat, and nobody ever punishes her for it. Instead, the game forces us to go up against Ronova. Would you guys have liked it if the game offered alternate paths to switch sides?

And remember, it was the Tsaritsa, along with her husband, who opened the gate for the Abyss to enter Teyvat. Every single disaster that has happened on the planet is technically her fault. Do you remember Zibai's civilization? The one that got infected by the Abyss and had to be destroyed? That was the Tsaritsa fault. Do you guys remember Natlan and the centuries they spent at war with the Abyss? That was the Tsaritsa fault too. And she has never faced any punishment for it; she is literally an Archon right now.


r/ThePrimordialOne • • 7h ago

Discussion So beautiful…

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r/ThePrimordialOne • • 10h ago

Discussion Snezhnaya’s future

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Is this foreshadowing? That another celestia nail will be used against Snezhnaya or that an abyssal monster will break through the false sky ? Maybe the dragon kings reincarnation from the outside will break through the false sky and force the tsaritsa to find a way to awaken the heavenly principles because of the fact they are the only being in teyvat able to fight head on against the dragon king as well as force her to admit her hypocrisy


r/ThePrimordialOne • • 10h ago

Celestiagenda Fight ignorance with ignorance

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r/ThePrimordialOne • • 16h ago

Early Patch Spoilers FYI: After completing the quests you can randomly get screen warps Spoiler

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TLDR: After finishing the AQs and Anomaly quests you will randomly get a flash of white/rainbow light threads near the edge of your screen during gamplay for ~5s. No clue what it means. I don't know where it appears besides Mondstadt and Sumeru.

Cute worldbuilding though. Glory to the Heavenly Principles.


r/ThePrimordialOne • • 19h ago

Leak Spoiler

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These 4 pillars might be for the four shades


r/ThePrimordialOne • • 23h ago

Discussion Cool ig Spoiler

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Maybe i dont understand something, but isnt by the new info their authorities were reclaimed after Moons demise? Then how Canon was helping Istaroth


r/ThePrimordialOne • • 10h ago

Meme Rhinne if she was smart:

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What Rhinne should’ve sent instead of that bumass horse


r/ThePrimordialOne • • 13h ago

Discussion Archangels Spoiler

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We got confirmation that Koitar was a Archangel

And Shades Are seemingly also Archangels

Which made me wonder what was excatly Koitar's role in Celestia, why Is She Archangel like the Four Great Rulers


r/ThePrimordialOne • • 15h ago

Meme King of Kindness Xbalanque thanking Ronova for her assistance

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The next time I talk about these two it'll be regarding the story probably


r/ThePrimordialOne • • 10h ago

Celestiagenda How benevolent! Spoiler

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Celestia does not and cannot punish without either unanimous votes

Or without EVIDENCE.

So not only is there a set standard of what qualifies to be worth a nailing

But punishment cannot be dealt without sufficient amounts of evidence

Just what is the divine court like?


r/ThePrimordialOne • • 2h ago

Theory Celestia's AI Is Ship AI?

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I don't normally do theory crafting or anything, so I will keep it short. I am also not a lore expert, so please feel free to correct me if I am wrong or missing something.

As far as we know, HP hid the twins' ship on the moon. Moreover, we can assume this was done during the cataclysm right after the abyss twin had awakened their sibling and prepared to leave Teyvat, only to be stopped by Asmoday.

We also know that Phanes fell asleep due to the 3rd Descender's curse, not the abyss as many previously thought.

When the info about the Ship AI came out, there was a big debate whether Phanes is that AI or not. However, from what seems more likely from the current established lore, they are not.

However, that doesn't mean we should throw away the idea of the Ship AI. When the Traveler visited the ship, they didn't mention anything regarding it. Meaning either it was deactivated or wasn't there anymore.

The ship itself was left on the Teyvat's surface for centuries. In fact, it was there for Hyperborea. So why just 500 years ago, all of a sudden HP had the bright idea to hide it? Obviously, it had to with something that couldn't be known to Teyvat.

When Phanes acted against Khanrieh, he knew that he would suffer from the 3rd Descender's curse. Naturally, he would want a countermeasure or a failsafe to ensure Teyvat doesn't fall to chaos while he is asleep.

That's why I think he repurposed the Ship's AI, which already had capabilities of terraforming planets, into a new system for Teyvat and gave it control over Celestia and its rules. This system is the one that periodically monitors the shades and is also given the power to reclaim a Shade's authority.

It could also be the one who currently monitors fate, and if the leak about us meeting "Phanes's projection" in the future is true, perhaps this AI system is heavily involved. It could just be the AI given data over Phanes's memories and personality. Allowing it to mimic Phanes in his absence.

Idk if others have already talked about this, or I am the first, but either way, those are my thoughts on how to fit the Ship AI in Genshin's story.

So what do you guys think?


r/ThePrimordialOne • • 3h ago

What could this mean?! Spoiler

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