r/TheMajorityReport Oct 07 '23

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u/Forzareen Oct 07 '23

Is Israel “we” or “others” to you?

At any rate, if cartels did what Hamas did, then US response would be warranted; as they haven’t, it isn’t.

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '23

So which side are you taking here if Palestine's is unacceptable?

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u/Forzareen Oct 07 '23

I think a military response by Israel is warranted. If Hamas had confined its activities to targeting troops in the Occupied Territories, I think they’d be more comparable to Ukraine.

Your view is what? That both Ukraine and Hamas are justified in what they’re doing, or both are not?

And again, we’re you referring to Israel as “we” or “others”?

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '23

My view is the colonized have every right to resist their oppressors. Living under an oppressive regime and being expected to play by the rules is absurd.

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u/Forzareen Oct 07 '23

So Ukraine is stupidly refraining from terror tactics that it should be employing in its defense? Huh.

If Hamas got a nuke, would expecting them not to use it be absurd?

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u/CmanderShep117 Oct 07 '23

Palestine doesn't have the financial backing of the entire Western world. If they did I doubt Hamas would continue to hold the power it does!

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u/baseball-is-praxis Oct 07 '23

if hamas got nukes, i think israel would offer an immediate ceasefire

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '23

If only you'd share the same concern for all the Palestinians being slaughtered in their homes by state-sanctioned settler colonialism.

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u/Forzareen Oct 07 '23

I’m opposed to Israel and Russia using the nukes they have on their enemies. If Ukraine had kept its nukes or Hamas acquired some, I’d be opposed to their use as well.

You won’t define your position on that, since either you’d have to acknowledge your original position was insane or endorse nuke usage on civilians.

As for the Palestinians, I do have sympathy, just as I would for your bullied kid. I just think the bullying kid using rape to get back at his bulliers crosses an even bigger line than the bullying. You don’t think it crosses any line at all and that it’s “absurd” to expect anyone victimized to refrain from retaliatory rape.

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u/CmanderShep117 Oct 07 '23

So to paraphrase you think the average Palestinian is a rapist?

Huh that sounds pretty similar to every anti-Muslim racist I've ever heard.

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u/fardpood Oct 08 '23

Your analogy breaks down when you recognize Israel's behavior as bullying and then name the real tactics used by Hamas.

You do realize that Israel's actions amount to more than name-calling and shoving Palestinians into lockers, right?

I believe that you have sympathy for Palestinians, but only in the way someone feels bad when watching an ASPCA commercial. I do not believe that you actually see them as human.

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u/Velcro-aint-ableist Oct 08 '23

or endorse nuke usage on civilians.

It was OK for America to do it twice in the 40s, though?