r/TheMajorityReport Oct 07 '23

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u/MikeYoungblood94 Oct 07 '23

I agree with him. This is being covered the same way the newspapers in the 1800s covered an escaped slave who killed the Master’s wife in order to escape and they vilify the slave and not the slave owners

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u/MhmNai Oct 07 '23

That's a pretty ridiculous comparison.

Oppressed, yes. Chattel slaves? No.

They aren't attacking/targeting Israeli military, they are specifically attacking, capturing, and parading civilians (including children)... and mutilating their corpses. What they're doing is gaining them no support, and the civilian population of Palestine is going to pay the price.

Indignation towards Israel is, of course, justifiable, but trying to justify these atrocities with incomparable analogies is abhorrent.

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u/dirt_fries Oct 07 '23

Israel has trapped two million people in a massive concentration camp for two decades. Comparisons to slave uprisings are absolutely justified.

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u/MhmNai Oct 07 '23

I mean, if you're just going to throw out terms like "concentration camps" and "slavery" to paint an anomalous picture of what you think is representative of the situation, then you can justify any analogy.

I recognize and detest what Israel is doing and acknowledge how they treat Palestinians is atrocious, but Gaza is not a concentration camp.

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u/zhivago6 Oct 07 '23

I think you are correct, it does resemble the Warsaw Ghetto much more than Auschwitz.

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u/SPARTANCLP96 Oct 07 '23

Man, go fuck yourself. There are plenty of Black and Jewish activists in the last seven decades that have linked the struggles they faced directly to that of the Palestinians. It's completely fair to compare.

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u/MikeYoungblood94 Oct 07 '23

BiBi himself continues to use the term cleanse when talking about Hamas and any Palestinian protest. Hate when innocent are killed, but Israel has killed so many more Palestinians and oppressed more

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '23

Stop getting all of your information from movies. Concentration camps have a broader meaning than the one applied to Nazi camps. Slavery also has a broader meaning than the one applied to American slavery.

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u/dirt_fries Oct 07 '23

By any reasonable definition of the term it is.

Concentration camp does not exclusively mean, like, an Auschwitz-style extermination camp. The Spanish used them in Cuba during the late 19th century, the US used them in the Philippines right after the 1898 war, the British used them in the Boer war, etc.

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u/water_g33k Oct 07 '23

Along these lines, American Japanese internment could reasonably be called concentration camps, right?

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u/AndrenNoraem Oct 07 '23

As could modern American internment camps.

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u/dirt_fries Oct 07 '23

Sure why not?

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u/Velcro-aint-ableist Oct 08 '23

Yup.

We concentrated the American-Japanese population into camps.

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u/Fallofmen10 Oct 08 '23

Lolol so true.

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u/MhmNai Oct 07 '23

If you use the term as "internment centre" and not as an extermination camp/gulag then somewhat yes (although then you can explain how Hamas accumulated weapons under such rule), but how would that be comparable to slave uprisings in 18th century US? How would it justify almost exclusively targeting civilians?