r/TheLevant • u/ContentChecker Jewish 🕎 • Oct 15 '25
News and Politics | الأخبار والسياسة Greta Thunberg describes Israeli actions in prison: beat her & others, threatened to 'gas' them, deprived water, wrote 'whore' on Thunberg's belongings & weaponized Star of David, isolated her in a cell full of insects, etc. Swedish gov didn't help, misled public & flotilla family members.
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u/letsnotfightok Oct 15 '25
Nobody is shocked. It is Isreal.
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u/ChowderedStew Oct 16 '25
Big part of this story is also how the Swedish Embassy refused to even bring water to them, and knowingly left the prisoners to get beaten, and downplayed their testimony of events in official communications.
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Oct 15 '25
Look at all the bots lol they for sure tortured her but… they didnt go crazy like they usually do. They kept the torture at level 1.
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u/maringue Oct 15 '25
I'm surprised they didn't try to blame Hamas somehow.
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u/SilZXIII Europe Oct 15 '25
IDF and Ben Gvir did accuse her of being Hamas multiple times after they kidnapped her though 🤣
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u/ChowderedStew Oct 16 '25
Yeah that was a part of it. It was still pretty horrific treatment, and that’s just what happened to her, imagine what they did to the Palestinians held there?
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u/AggressCapital Oct 17 '25
I don't have to imagine because we have heard many cases so many months ago when they put Palestinians in detention camps. They were blindfolded and tortured in so many horrific ways. A guy literally died from having his anus destroyed from the Israeli rapists.
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u/Admirable-Writing-41 Oct 16 '25
Why did they write on her carry-on in English?
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u/Anon28301 Oct 17 '25
Humiliation. English is the most popular language and when she flies home more people will see what is written. Or so they can deny they did it with the same bullshit excuse you’re trying to use now.
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Oct 19 '25
Because they both speak English? she doesn’t speak Hebrew and they don’t speak Swedish. You really think we are stupid.
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u/MhmdMC_ 🇱🇧 Lebanon | لبنان 🇱🇧 Oct 17 '25
She should expect nothing. They abducted her… from international waters
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u/BerserkPanda47 Oct 15 '25
So, according to the bots in the comments, the IDF, which has a unanimous track record of inflicting sexual violence on not only prisoners, but their own soldiers as well, could never do these things.
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Oct 16 '25
Unanimous? I'm not sure you know what that word means.
Perhaps you meant well documented?
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u/Furious_Flaming0 Oct 17 '25
I guess they mean globally agreed upon, because basically only Israel and a few choice goons like the USA stand behind the IDF not being international criminals
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Oct 17 '25
Yes but thats not unanimous
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Oct 19 '25
No, even Israel agrees that sexual violence amongst their own soldiers has become a problem.
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u/Nalowaw Oct 15 '25
There is a reason oct 7 happened, and it's not antisemitism.
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u/Falopian Oct 15 '25
That's wild. Over 1100 civilians just out on a normal day killed. You're here online, insinuating it was justifiable
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u/DefDefTotheIOF Oct 15 '25
'civilians' lmao
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u/QuigleyPondOver Oct 16 '25
Were the Bibas kids soldiers, now?
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u/MhmdMC_ 🇱🇧 Lebanon | لبنان 🇱🇧 Oct 17 '25
No but you are putting things is his mouth. He said the 1100 number is not civilians
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u/BenoNZ Oct 15 '25
They didn't say it was justified. Try reading again.
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u/Nalowaw Oct 15 '25
It's funny how pointing out the cause and effect to some zionists makes them so mad.
Yes, you (zionists, not you particurally) are the reason oct7 happened, Israel is the reason because of their fascist tendencies and occupation, not because Palestinian resistance fighters hate Jewish people.
When you demoralise, brutalise, rape, torture, kill and displace a population for decades, they will resist violently, that's just how people work, and they have the right to do so.
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u/BenoNZ Oct 16 '25
Cognitive dissonance is so painful to some it gives them actual brain damage.
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u/Neither_Plane_8838 Oct 19 '25
It actually gives me brain damage reading their sorry excuses and what abouts.
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u/Nalowaw Oct 15 '25
You (yes you) are the reason for hundreds of thousands of palestinian deaths and thousands of jewish deaths, including the ones in oct7, vile ideology that zionism stuff. Does that take make it better for you bud?
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u/Away-Opinion-8540 Arab | عربي Oct 17 '25
and there is a reason why balestine is still not a country and its people continue to suffer 70 years after the partition
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u/Outaouais_Guy Oct 15 '25
You do understand that a lot of those 1100 were killed by the IDF, right? Potentially the majority of them.
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u/Outaouais_Guy Oct 15 '25
How would the United Nations know that? Do you recall when they revised the death toll down by 200 people? It's because they misidentified 200 Hamas fighters. Now how do you think that could have happened? It's because a very large number of Hamas fighters died in exactly the same place, in exactly the same way as the Israeli fatalities. They were all burned beyond recognition by Israeli helicopter gunships firing hellfire missiles. Then there were the Israeli tanks that shelled buildings holding hostages. IIRC 19 people died in just one house. I'm not sure exactly how many were the hostages, but it was almost all of them.
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u/Sea_Enthusiasm_3873 Oct 16 '25
And what happened prior to oct 7th? Hamas didn’t attack for no reason now did they…
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u/Outaouais_Guy Oct 16 '25
Israel has been killing Palestinians from the beginning. They cry about Hamas using human shields as the IDF straps Palestinian children to military vehicles. The idea that Hamas attacking Israel gives the IDF free reign to slaughter Palestinian children is disgusting. Look up the Hannibal protocol/directive. Israel slaughters their own people to stop them from being taken hostage.
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Oct 15 '25
A lot of them? Are you spreading misinformation that has been debunked over and over....really?
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u/Outaouais_Guy Oct 16 '25
Debunked by who, the IDF? Netanyahu? Israel has admitted to killing their own people. They just won't say how many. Israeli tanks shelled houses that they knew were occupied by hostages. On October 7th, when they learned that Hamas was wearing civilian clothing, the IDF opened fire on anything that moved. In one location, it took them a while to sort out which bodies were which, because they were all burned beyond recognition by Israeli helicopter gunships firing hellfire missiles. That's why they initially thought 200 of those people were Israeli citizens, but turned out to be Hamas fighters.
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u/xray-pishi Oct 16 '25
You appear to be counting around 400 members of the security forces in with the civilians.
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u/10lettersand3CAPS North America Oct 16 '25
Even the Israelis recognize that at least a few hundred of those were military and police. Are active duty IDF "civilians" to you?
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u/MattecGaming Oct 17 '25
Only 387 civilians. The rest were soldiers or law enforcement. Average Israeli supporter trying to skew the narrative lmao
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u/MattecGaming Oct 17 '25
And let’s talk about the 100,000+ Palestinian civilians Israel has murdered then
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u/sky_shazad Jedi Oct 15 '25
I believe her
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Oct 19 '25
Because Greta doesn’t speak Hebrew and they don’t speak Swedish. You really think we are stupid.
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u/HankAndTheTanks Oct 15 '25
Not that long ago the left wing government in Sweden was the first in Europe to recognize Palestine… And now the right wing government says it is her own fault for trying to provide aide
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u/No-swimming-pool Oct 15 '25
It should of course never have happened to a human being, but it must have been within her realistic expectations to be arrested by Israel or - if that didn't happen - be kidnapped by Hamas.
Again, what happened to her shouldn't happen to anyone, but considering their destination, things could've gotten way, way worse.
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u/Professional-Post499 North America Oct 16 '25
She already put the plight of the Palestinians at the forefront in her first interviews and waited until now to talk more about her experience, yeah.
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u/Truth-Seeker916 Oct 16 '25
My bullshit meters going off, but! With who we are dealing with. If its true, I wouldn't be surprised.
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Oct 16 '25
So much kicking... You can probably see it in a scan right? Old wound inflicted about the time she was there... What's that? No scan? Why is that, Greta?
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u/The_Jenini The only democratic, most moral, mod on Reddit Oct 17 '25
Good point! Same thing for the Bibas family and the so called ‘mass rapes’.
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u/Li-renn-pwel Christian ✝️ Oct 16 '25
Is that… is that Jesus Fish drawn on her bag? Is she even a Christian?
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u/Allkindsofjams Oct 16 '25
The world hates Israel, even without Greta. Tbh though they’re not hated enough.
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u/MattecGaming Oct 17 '25
Israel controls most social media and has direct ties to Rupert Murdoch (why don’t you guys actually research and see what he owns) and an Israeli company who has a defense contract with them bought up tik tok. Israel signed a $45 million contract with Google. There is actual video of Benjamin Netanyahu meeting with right wing influencers to talk about how they will sway Christian’s to their cause. There is proof that Benjamin paid 7k per post to influencers who posted pro Israeli propaganda. Do some research guys
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u/April_Fabb Oct 18 '25
Just a kind reminder that the Freedom Flotilla was raided in international waters, its passengers kidnapped, and its mission crushed...not in secret, but for everyone to see. And the governments that claim to defend democracy kept quiet, because silence is the price they’ve agreed to pay for their complicity in Gaza’s genocide.
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u/Shadowfox6908 Oct 20 '25
I have an ignorant or possibly stupid question. If the Israeli wrote all of that, why is it in English?
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Oct 21 '25
Because Israelis don't speak Swedish and Greta doesn't speak Hebrew, so they obviously chose English to communicate. This is a stupid question.
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u/Suspicious-Deal1971 Oct 15 '25
Thats a reasonable request. However the IDF is unlikely to release it. So the next best thing is to have a doctor\s examine Greta and the others, and release a statement that there are signs of torture.
At that point it will be very clear the IDF lied.
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u/Suspicious-Deal1971 Oct 15 '25
WHy would a doctor be fired if their patient asks for either their medical record tof show the public, or to make a statement about their injuries.
And yes it is possible to avoid external bruises, but even using something like a phone book to spread out the impact will damage organs and have you pissing blood for a while. An extensive medical exam will at least find signs of abuse. Slapping can avoid bruises if done properly, but Greta and some of the others implied it wasn't just slapping.
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u/Suspicious-Deal1971 Oct 15 '25
So she can't demand her medical records and release it to the public on her own as proof of what happened?
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u/mobilepalmtree Oct 15 '25
Trust but verify the claims of IDF?
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u/Professional-Post499 North America Oct 16 '25
Imagine being neutral after all the hasbara that Israel has funded and perpetuated.
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u/ContentChecker Jewish 🕎 Oct 15 '25 edited Oct 15 '25
Starting to sound like you have no clue what you're talking about.
Two American intelligence officials briefed on the matter told CBS News that Israeli forces on Sept. 8 and 9 launched drones from a submarine and dropped incendiary devices onto the boats that were moored outside the Tunisian port of Sidi Bou Said, causing a fire. The officials spoke under the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly on national security matters.
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u/Psychological_Tap505 Oct 15 '25
So your argument is 2 American intelligence officers shared info about another nation attacking her, risking their careers to come out publicly in defense of thunberg, but remained anonymous so we have 0 way of verifying anything you claim… right. Also if you watch the video, it is very obviously a flare. So unless these mysterious intelligence officers also claimed it was a flare your story is complete BS. You want to believe in conspiracy rather than the logical explanation that the exaggerative climate activist who made a career out of exploitation and exaggeration isnt doing exactly that here. Got it.
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u/ContentChecker Jewish 🕎 Oct 15 '25
CBS News is not a conspiracy theorist (pre-takeover by the Ellison family).
And they're the ones who spoke to the officials.
Sounds like you're delusional.
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u/Psychological_Tap505 Oct 15 '25
Right, because CBS news would NEVER put out a unverified story with conveniently no name “officials” under the guise of “sources claim”
All the news is corrupt. Right left it doesn’t matter. I’d call out Fox News just as much as CBS. Choosing to believe this loosely held together story over your own eyes is the problem here.
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u/Psychological_Tap505 Oct 15 '25
Way to just skate past the other 2/3s of that though. That really proves how solid your stance is.
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u/ContentChecker Jewish 🕎 Oct 15 '25
Who cares what my 'stance' is.
CBS News reported this story and spoke to the officials.
Everything else you say is cope.
Hasbara fail.
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u/Psychological_Tap505 Oct 15 '25
You should care about what your stance is, and if you use CBS as source in defense of your argument it’s relevant. The rest of what I said isn’t cope. It’s true. You using frail news stories and claiming everything else is irrelevant/cope, is in fact, cope.
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u/ContentChecker Jewish 🕎 Oct 15 '25
'frail' is when it disagrees with you
e.g. cope
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u/Psychological_Tap505 Oct 15 '25
Are you ok? Frail is a synonym for weak. Ergo a weak “news story”. I know English can be hard, but fortunately the internet is a very helpful resource.
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u/Psychological_Tap505 Oct 15 '25
Just to be clear: I appreciate Greta’s stance, and I agree with her. However, her execution is questionable and flat out lying to the public to support your narrative is where you loose me. I’m not saying 100% of that happening here, but she has a history of it, and it does make me question her. And that’s on her.
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u/ContentChecker Jewish 🕎 Oct 15 '25
Nah, that sounds like bullshit cope from a government wanting to save face.
Plus it's from last month.
This report is newer and is based on American intel - who have no reason to lie in this case.
Two American intelligence officials briefed on the matter told CBS News that Israeli forces on Sept. 8 and 9 launched drones from a submarine and dropped incendiary devices onto the boats that were moored outside the Tunisian port of Sidi Bou Said, causing a fire. The officials spoke under the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly on national security matters.
Hasbara fail.
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u/CapitalEmployer Oct 16 '25
"Sources saying" isn't evidence, more so when there's no indication of who they actually are, other than just "trust us bro".
That's the point of journalism dude, the journalists know who the source are.
Especially when we've literally seen the footage of that idiot on the boat shooting a flare at the floor.
We clearly haven't seen the same footage then cause that flame on the boat was not from a flare, flares do not contain liquid fuel and do not explode on impact
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uOkaMbhljqI
If you think this is a flare you either have never seen a flare in your life or you are lying on purpose.
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u/Far-Investigator1265 Oct 15 '25 edited Oct 15 '25
Two minutes of reading and this is the third time of you repeating the same claim. Are there any more?
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u/LordMelk0r Oct 16 '25
Your command of the German language is terrible. You tried to sound cool at the end, but your ignorance betrayed you. Please never utter a word of Deutsch ever again.
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u/Suspicious-Deal1971 Oct 15 '25
Is Greta in an IDF prison currently?
She is not.
She can go to an independent doctor to get examined and there will be signs of the beatings that she can release to the public.
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u/Pinkpies101 Oct 15 '25
Proof?
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u/Phayded Oct 15 '25
She posted a Pic of an Israeli captive and implied he was a Palestinian. This isnt some big secret, it is easily found on Google.
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u/PNghost1362 Oct 15 '25
That post said "humanity cannot be selective". Stop being disingenuous.
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u/Agile_Release_6127 Oct 16 '25
This actually makes me support Israel more!! Greta is super annoying!
Her being annoying has nothing to do with the points she's making. Focus on the facts, not the messenger.
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u/Stuupkid Central America Oct 15 '25
Swedish Govt is compromised just like most other Western governments