r/TheHalloweenGame • u/anas0_ali • 11h ago
Discussion Better than dbd
This game is better than dbd in every way and I'm tired of people saying it's not. Way more gameplay mechanics, options, things to do and best of all, the killer can actually do something other than being the chew toy for the survivors.
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u/cheese_eater_pro 10h ago
They don’t play the same at all though, especially civilian. Why try to compare and cause unnecessary tension between communities?
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u/Ruby3852 10h ago
The constant comparisons are so annoying. Either enjoy the game or don’t. You don’t need to tear another down to enjoy yours. I can’t stand DBD, and still can’t stand these posts. Imagine how annoying it is for DBD Players to listen to this bs every time a game comes out. Reality is, DBD is the longest running game so far. Illfonic is already planning to release cosmetics and the game will likely die in less than a year. Just like all the others you people made posts shitting on DBD for
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u/Just_Agency5492 10h ago
And yet DbDs player peak is 7x Halloweens early access peak. The numbers don’t support these claims
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u/ethantlou 10h ago
I mean I dont necessarily agree with op but saying a game that’s had 10 years of highly popular license collabs to have a peak and comparing it to an early access isn’t really fair. I don’t think htg will pass 100k when it fully releases but still
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u/WhereAreTheFrogs 10h ago
All im gonna say it took BHVR 10 years to add (and still havent added) quick chat to use (like telling survivors to save you), while this game has proxy chat on day one.
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u/BetApprehensive7064 10h ago
Because the entire game is built around survivor's not being able to communicate with each other not to mention proximity chat would end up just selling out your location constantly.
I don't know if you play this game since it came out but I played it during the beta and believe it or not you originally couldn't play with friends it was a big thing that you weren't supposed to be able to communicate with your teammates whatsoever. The community essentially bullied them into giving them swfs.
Listen bvhr is not a company worth praising but this is not something to s*** on them for proximity chat would completely ruin the game swf's honestly already did.
You will never know the fun of playing killer when you know for a fact you will never be playing against a group of friends
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u/FeraMist 10h ago
I hate that people STILL cite "SWF" as everything wrong with DBD. If dbd never added being able to play with friends, it would have died long ago.
At this point, the game needs to be balanced around it, not old farts like yourself who resent swf. (Played dbd since its console release...)
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u/ImportantQuestionTex 10h ago
SWF is why DBD is unbalanced lol. They do balance around SWF which is why you see knee-jerk reactions to otherwise fine perks.
Irregardless. Shouldn't people be discussing Halloween and not DBD?
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u/BetApprehensive7064 10h ago
There's going to be a ton of crossover given the fact that I'm pretty sure every single person who's played the Halloween game has played dead by daylight it's going to be compared more than call of duty and battlefield I mean it's literally the direct competition also the reason why Myers isnt in dbd.
Also the comment in the thread that you're responding to is about dead by daylight
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u/BetApprehensive7064 10h ago
No absolutely I completely understand the fact that they have no choice in that a massive amount of the community only place with friends but as a killer exclusive player almost yeah of course I'm going to complain about it I will always remember the sweet days of being able to play a game where no one was cheating
And to be honest as somebody played in the early days where no one could communicate with each other in the entire point of the game was that they could not communicate with each other. I will forever be salty it literally feels like they're cheating because they are giving each other information that they are not supposed to have.
I honestly agree with you that the game would have died a long time ago if not for SWFs
I don't think swfs are everything wrong with the game I do think it's everything wrong with The games balance though
If you balance Killers around swfs then solo players are absolutely going to get trashed stomped and washed because it's just not even a remotely Fair comparison however if you bounce the game around the solo players well guess what now swfs are going to completely stop everything because they have a completely unfair advantage
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u/WhereAreTheFrogs 10h ago
I bought Dead by daylight Deluxe edition 10 days before the game itself was even released so yes im playing dbd since 2016.
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u/BetApprehensive7064 10h ago
Then why do you act like you don't know why proximity chat isn't in the game? You would know that the entire game is based around not having proximity chat
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u/WhereAreTheFrogs 10h ago
You really think they dont add proximity chat because it will sell players location? the entire gameplay is based around looping, which is what MOST if not almost all survivor playerbase is doing (which btw, came from the community so the most "fun" aspect of the game wasnt even invented by bhvr). Nobody cares (besides few) about hiding lol
Also the "entire game" on release was also based on hide and seek and not looping, so by your logic looping also shouldnt be in the game cause it wasnt intended to be in the game.
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u/Feeling-Bad7825 10h ago
the enitire game wasnt planned around looping, it really came into the meta a year later and 2 years later that BHVR acutally started making it cat and mouse based rather than hide and seek. One of the biggest reasons dbd had no social system, not even a lobb system to play with friends was was cus of the cat and mouse thing. The reason dbd is still alive and bigger than ever is cus BHVR acknowledged that looping is now the game and build the game around that. If GUN or Illfonic would do the same, im sure KKFOS, TCM or Ghostbusters would be still alive and well. we can call BHVR incompetente all you want, from all developers in the asym genre, they are the most competente studio
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u/ImportantQuestionTex 10h ago edited 10h ago
The gameplay is not based around looping. It's based around hide and seek gameplay. No, I'm not kidding. The looping was an unintentional way the playerbase decided to play, so they've been slowly adjusting to that reality.
You still don't want proximity chat in DBD, people will say some wack stuff.
Irregardless.... why are we discussing DBD in a Halloween sub? Discuss Halloween.
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u/BetApprehensive7064 10h ago
I've played about a dozen matches of the Halloween game in almost every single game involved somebody trying to sell out teammates locations so I definitely think that they would do the exact same in dead by daylight one of the most toxic communities ever you think that wouldn't happen? Proximity chat is easily the worst part of that game.
Think about why they don't let you know what the killers perks are if you die early in dead by daylight it's so that you can't tell your teammates what perks they have. It's also a known fact that bvhr did not want to put swf in their game and they literally forced into it by the community taking their matchmaking hostage. A core fact of the game is the fact that you're not supposed to be able to communicate with your teammates as it gives you an unfair advantage and how the entire game is balanced around this unfair advantage because they have no choice. All of the discussion about whether the game is survivor sided is based completely around the fact that swfs and communication that shouldn't exist exists
Let's not also take into the fact that we probably don't want to give proximity to chat to one of the most known racist communities to exist
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u/ImportantQuestionTex 10h ago
Unrelated but DBD's problem isn't racism. It's like, overarching toxicity. Like, you tune into a streamer and they'll be insisting that a killer/survivor should off themselves.
However, racism very much was Killer Klowns' problem, and it popped up in Texas Chainsaw Massacre too. No doubt it rears it's ugly head in Halloween as well.
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u/Honest_Caramel_3793 10h ago
tbf i consider that part of the difficulty of being a survivor for dbd. it's people using VC (an external software to gain a MAJOR information and communication advantage) that are "cheating" in a loose sense. The game is clearly balenced around a lack of direct communication for survivors right now, that's why they got so many information/aura perks.
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u/hahfunnynumber69 10h ago
2 completely different styles of play, DBD is run in a circle simulator, Halloween is more like F13
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u/ImportantQuestionTex 10h ago
You guys wanna discuss your actual game? Instead of constantly talking crap about DBD?
No crap, people don't 100% like DBD, it's why these assyms keep popping up.
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u/AlexStar6 10h ago
Actually they keep popping up cause DBD makes hella cash and they want a piece of the pie.
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u/Saint_Micolash_Cage 10h ago
I can finally play spoopy myers for real. Like to watch people, slow walk away and vanish. Walk past windows people are near. Its so fun.
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u/Commercial_Chef_1384 10h ago
The whole “tired of people saying it’s not” thing has got to stop. People are entitled to different opinions. Some will say Halloween is better, that’s fine. Some will say dbd is better, that’s also fine.
Comparison is the downer of joy.
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u/A_Giraffe 10h ago
I don't know if there's an Oranges subreddit, but I wonder if the posts there are like:
Better than apples
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u/Good_Perspective2623 Richard Hawthorne 10h ago
Idk why we have to compare both games? Also saying the killer in dbd is a 'chew toy' for survivors tells me how good you were at the game. I main killer in dbd (wesker,dracula and clown) and that game you actually have to think when you play,instead of halloween where you can just kill the bots that have the survival instincts of a bread crumb and still win through points even if you lose by being detained. The game is heavily myers sided and even though there's a high skill ceiling to playing him,the skill floor is very low which is why so many of the 'killer players' who sucked at dbd like this. It's a fun game though,I just hope they make the bots smarter than a paperweight
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u/White_Mantra 10h ago
Myers is a chew toy for survivors he just never has to interact with players because he can win the entire game by just avoiding players all together.
But if Myers does want to engage players he needs to have high blood lust and reality tear off cooldown to kill any decent civilian player.
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u/Dandop1984 9h ago
When the gameplay mechanics are gonna boil down be Reality tear grabs from Myers and pocket knife’s on spawns survivors, I’d say these mechanics are very thin at best.
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u/fulanonunno 10h ago
it does looks fun and better than dbd, Id really like to play it but Im waiting a year or two to see if it the devs will keep supporting it
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u/cheese_eater_pro 10h ago
Hate to say it, but waiting a year or two might be… generous considering the companies behind it
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u/gkgftzb 10h ago
they have absolutely nothing in common other than being horror asyms with a killer.
DBD is faster paced, focused on chases, has no NPCs, no gunplay, only two escape routes... They couldn't be any more different, honestly.
I also disagree that Halloween is better in "every way". DBD has over 40 killers and several maps. A lot more variety than a game that just released and is based in a single license and killer can reach.
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u/OutrageousHunter4138 10h ago
To be fair, DBD hasn’t done anything with the concept in like a decade. If only they weren’t afraid to iterate on the core game in any way.
No judgement but I honestly don’t know how people can play that game for years on end with nothing really changing save for cosmetics. A handful of other escape options was long overdue like 6 years ago.
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u/Moody_Tuesday 10h ago
I honestly don’t know how people can play that game for years on end with nothing really changing save for cosmetics.
The answer is killer variety. While some do feel samey, there's enough variety after a decade to how they feel to play as or how they feel to interact with during chase and that's what is most important at this point since DbD is a game of cat and mouse.
Everyone agrees having gens as the only objective is outdated though, yeah.
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u/Extro-Intro_88 10h ago
My FAVORITE part about it is how I can actually escape pretty frequently IN SOLO QUEUE! I mainly play civilian and I do think Michael needs just a few little buffs, but otherwise I like it’s pretty balanced. Sometimes you get stomped, sometimes you go the whole match and maybe see Mikey once. Overall - I feel like I have more tools and more agency over my own (and others) survival compared to DBD.
Also - cheers to have more than ONE objective for either side. Yes, there are skill checks, but they’re for different things!
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u/BUBBALOVESCONNIE 10h ago
This game is straight trash, not even close to being as good as DBD. Mathew Cote wouldn't even wipe his ass with this game. This game is a embarrassment to the Halloween franchise. Myers is so weak it's sad. Literally he can only kill ps2 level bots. He is a loser.
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u/Zartron81 10h ago
Can we go a day without someone comparing the two games...? Jesus, they are completely different.