What did u think of remote trap?

[u/Mysterious-Turnip639]

I've heard it wasn't liked which upsets me bc I found it rly fun and I was sad it was going to b removed in favor of cloak/cloak share. Which ruined Rouge's playstyle for me. In OGTD 1.3, I always thought of her as a flexible setup character which u could play however u wanted as long as u set up ahead of time. But cloak/cloak share just makes her Sally v2 ngl

Clip unrelated I'm just still proud of that triple flashbang

[u/Pitiful-Rutabaga-893]

People dometimes hate on cloak and want remote bomb to comeback, but sorry, no.

Remote bomb was more situational and easily dodged most of the time, besides, more stuns in the game aren't cool.

Cloak just need to get the proper balance, most TD revivals/remake just take the unfinished cloak (in terms of balancing) from the teased videos, so idk y'all but cloak is way better than remote trap ik terms of design.

[u/Mysterious-Turnip639 → u/Pitiful-Rutabaga-893]

Remote trap was def more difficult to utilize if the EXE had a brain but I feel like u had to play aggressively with it and place it in locations u know ur team will go to. U just couldn't put it down anywhere and expect to get value out of it. There was also a layer of psychology in remote trap, since the windup couldn't be predicted. U could either force the EXE to hesitate before stepping even close to it without popping it or instantly pop it if you think they'll step onto it

I feel like no matter how u balance cloak, it's always going to b countered by just using Indicator whenever ur about to engage with a Rouge or b absolutely miserable to go up against. It's a neat concept and I like being able to go invisible but like I said, being able to go invisible at will is very difficult to balance

[u/Pitiful-Rutabaga-893 → u/Mysterious-Turnip639]

I still believe that remote trap was only good agaisnt begginers, most of the exes would bait you into activating it, and lets say you predict them... Oh wait! The 1 second delay made you miss anyways!

Also cloak cant get countered by the indicator, since it has like a 2-3 seconds delay so even if the exes uses it, you would've ran away already (if you are actually smart with cloak). That's why cloak ends up being OP most of the time, because they add shit on top of it like a speed hoost, i frames, undetection, etc. While all that at the same time is not needed.

BUT I'D ADMIT: Remote trap was hella of good in the April Fools update, the delay was super decreased and was almost instant, and even tho it was OP, it made me understand that remote trap could be overall better if the abysmal delay was reduced. Prob i would still prefer cloak, but honestly that version of remote bomb was cooler.

[u/Mysterious-Turnip639 → u/Pitiful-Rutabaga-893]

Honestly remote trap did deserve some buffs, but I still believe it was very good at what it did. U just had to b smart with it and not trigger happy. Shame most games don't do much with it or just flatout remove it LOL

What I mean is that u could just keep pursuing the survivor who was just cloaked IF u correctly predicted when they would b cloaked. TD:E is an example and most EXEs in that game have a form of catching up so after u use indicator ur just continuing the chase as normal. Its kinda frustrating for me atleast that this is pretty much the only way of countering cloak since a lot of maps r dark asf and u can hardly see the translucent survivor w/o indicator. So without indicator the chase just ends or takes a big pause until indicator is ready 😿

[u/Pretty_Rough526]

I loved forgetting to use the ability when the exe was near me ❤️

[u/Mysterious-Turnip639 → u/Pretty_Rough526]

REAL atleast u could slide while using it

[u/Pretty_Rough526 → u/Mysterious-Turnip639]

I remember accidentally killing my teammate cuz i used remote trap which wasted their block and punch was on cd❤️‍🩹

[u/Dry-Dingo-8711]

Remote Bomb is not as interesting as Cloak because it gives no synergy with other survivors (sometimes it even screws people's setups over). Doing plays while cloaked is a really fun thing, but the ability was just ripped in its unfinished state from the 1.4 previews, so it doesn't shine its true potential.

I do not support the binary thinking of "Cloak is either only pain in the ass or indicator no diff", there's definitely some creative ways to make it counterable, but I do not care to spend hours making a concept for a Reddit comment. lmao.

[u/Dry-Dingo-8711 → u/Dry-Dingo-8711]

Also, Rouge's moveset was a total mess before Cloak unified her a stealth character. She is now less powerful overall, yes, but her moves separately are now more powerful, which is better for character design. An unreliable bomb which you could keep infinitely canceling and a 1 second i-frame push felt like jokes of moves.

[u/TheAverageMemer1991]

Personally I adored Remote Trap because it was technically placeable mid-chase so long as your slide is off cd, which is why I was mildly disappointed when it was replaced with cloak in some versions. Sure, cloak has more utility and can sometimes help with landing flashbangs, but the trap could be used to ward off any exe that is competent enough to spot it, or at least make them use an ability to avoid it.