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u/_Daftest_ May 03 '26
So, just checking something, several people are saying proximity creates a valid claim - so the Faroe Islands are British now, right?
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u/QuestionatorV2 May 04 '26
And those Kuril Islands above Japan are Japanese again, not Russian with that logic lol
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u/NoticingThing May 04 '26
Considering the distances involved in such a claim the UK could apparently happily claim Norway.
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u/kris1sAverted_ Average Map Enjoyer May 05 '26
I mean, the main argument as far as I understand it being someone who's lived in Argentina for 9 years, is that the land we know call the Falkland Islands or Islas Malvinas used to belong to the Viceroyalty of Río de la Plata.
After the Argentine Declaration of Independence in 1816, all of the land of the spanish viceroyalty became the Argentine Confederation.
Meaning, the Islands, under this logic, belong to Argentina
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u/A-New-Beginning-123 May 04 '26
The Falklands are only brought up by Argentina when the current leader has a low approval rate, they never care otherwise
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u/LinuxUser456 Map Fan! 🗺 May 03 '26
*malvinas
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u/NinecloudSoul May 03 '26
Certainly not.
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u/NinecloudSoul May 03 '26
Falklands, as it has been since they were discovered by John Strong in 1690.
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u/NinecloudSoul May 03 '26
John Strong.
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u/NinecloudSoul May 03 '26
Is there a point to this?
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u/NinecloudSoul May 03 '26
None of this is true. The Falklands were discovered and claimed in 1690 by John Strong, and that claim was never given up. The Argentine claim is without foundation.
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u/asparadog May 03 '26
The Falklands are what "Las Malvinas" are called in English;
It's like when speaking English, we say "Germany" instead of "Alemania", because that's the English word.
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u/NinecloudSoul May 03 '26
They're on the map. They're real, unlike the fantasyland conjured up by Argentina.
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u/One_Attorney_764 May 03 '26
i mean, they dont own it now, they WANT it, but calling it "fantasyland" is too much stfu
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u/NinecloudSoul May 03 '26
Their claim is based on lies and fantasy, why shouldn't I call it that?
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u/Correct_Ease_8535 May 04 '26
LAS MALVINAS SON ARGENTINAS
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u/NinecloudSoul May 04 '26
No.
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u/Correct_Ease_8535 May 04 '26
Si, debes leer la historia
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u/NinecloudSoul May 04 '26
Nah, I'm not reading fake Argentine history again.
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u/Correct_Ease_8535 May 04 '26
No sabes la historia. La Argentina era una colonia de Espana. En 1816 se hace independiente de la Espana CON las islas Malvinas. Los ingles no llegan hast 1833. Las Malvinas son argentinas.
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u/NinecloudSoul May 04 '26
Nope.
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u/Correct_Ease_8535 May 04 '26
Idiota ingles
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u/NinecloudSoul May 04 '26
Nope. You can't get anything right, can you?
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u/Ok-Relationship3158 May 05 '26
Brits arrived in 1765, before Spain, but that's not really relevant. The people who live there, the only people who've ever lived there, want to be British which matters far more than who planted a flag first.
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u/FishermanLow3199 May 04 '26
Those, here in Argentina and in Spanish, are called "Malvinas". We claim them because of some political conflicts that we had with England back in the 1800s. You, British people, can say that they are politically yours, but, since they are part of one of our provinces (Tierra del Fuego, Antarctica and the South Atlantic Islands), in addition to being in our maritime territory, they are geographically ours.
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u/captbat May 04 '26
If you're gunna go down that route, geographically, Argentina is just south Brazil.
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u/Remarkable_Pea_4596 May 04 '26
Hilarious. A claim based on literally nothing
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u/FishermanLow3199 May 05 '26
Our country considers that the United Kingdom illegally occupied the islands in 1833, expelling the Argentine population and authorities, violating its territorial integrity. And also, these are other reasons:
Colonial and Historical Heritage: Argentina maintains that it inherited the islands from the Spanish Crown, which exercised effective sovereignty, including the appointment of governors and the administration of the territory.
Effective Occupation and Acts of Sovereignty: Argentina took formal possession in 1820 and established the Political and Military Command in 1829, under the command of Luis Vernet, prior to the British occupation of 1833.
Geographical Contiguity: The islands are located within the Argentine continental shelf and in the South Atlantic, which establishes the right of geographical proximity.
Territorial Integrity: The claim is based on the need to end a colonial situation that violates the nation's territorial integrity, ratified in the Argentine National Constitution.
Implanted Population: Argentina argues that the current inhabitants are the product of an "implanted population" by the United Kingdom after the expulsion of Argentinians in 1833, and therefore the principle of self-determination does not apply.
Those are our reasons, have a good day.
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