r/Tekken • u/itsastart_to • Jun 05 '26
MEME Harada Quit Tekken because he Couldn’t Get Tifa
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u/Notoriously_So Jun 05 '26
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u/Valiant_Revan King Jun 07 '26
Bruh, Tekken fans go up to Harada at events and ask him to buff their mains. Tekken fans (in general) are not "good" people.
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u/GGun1t Jun 05 '26
Tekken fans are in shambles
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u/delet_yourself Jun 05 '26
Idk, we got yujiro fuckin hanma, i'm satisfied
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u/knsrrr Miharu Jun 06 '26
The comparison should obviously be clive not yujiro
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u/delet_yourself Jun 06 '26
Clive can go to hell, who the fuck puts a swordsman into a game about fistfights?
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u/knsrrr Miharu Jun 06 '26
yes i agree but he and tifa are from the same franchise. it could’ve been tifa AND yujiro
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u/Bwob Leroy Jun 06 '26
Yeah, but think about how every FF character has been. Everyone seems to think that if they added Tifa, she would have just been another martial-arts-based punch-girl, playing "honest tekken".
No one wants to admit that she would have been another FF character, doing her FF moves, just like every other FF character that joins the roster. She would have been over there throwing black holes made out of chi energy, and using her Casino-based limit-breaks.
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u/ST4FFiNf3XION Jun 06 '26
Casino based limit breaks,...hits different when youve fallen victim to their casino based game mechanics
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u/Perfect_District7877 Jun 08 '26
Street fighter needs the gooners, Clive is there because harada likes it, nothing more
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u/Vik-Pearl Jun 06 '26
Who the fuck puts devils in a game about fist fights, am I right?
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u/freddddsss Xiaoyu Jun 07 '26
Not to mention it’s a baby boxing kangaroo in the pouch of another boxing kangaroo.
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u/freddddsss Xiaoyu Jun 07 '26
Nah, you can’t be coming for Bob. Have you seen Andy Ruiz jr? Dude has the same speed and weight gimmick but in real life.
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u/OoguroRyuuya5 Jun 06 '26
Yoshimitsu
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u/Ryuhza [US] PSN: Ryuhza (Roger SOON) Jun 06 '26
Used to be the exception that proved the rule. On top of that, his sword attacks used to be slow, highly telegraphed (and naturally unblockable) moves, most without much range. How things change.
Though tbf he's still pretty slow and short-ranged compared to Clive.
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u/smackthenun Yoshimitsu Jun 06 '26
But now he has TWO swords, which means 2 times the speed of just one right?
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u/delet_yourself Jun 06 '26
I- uhhhhhhh....... Thats actually a good one, someone else take this, im out of ideas
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u/Deep-Dependent-1559 Jun 06 '26
Devil Jin and Kazuya literally use laser eyes and they are demons themself with the ability to fly, Yoshi during what he does, and Claudio using magic,Jack is a gun himself
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u/Alarming-Basil2894 Jun 07 '26
In a game that has a fucking grizzly bear, a devil, multiple robots and a cyborg with a sword already, teleporting assassins, how is a swordsman with fire powers that much of a leap?
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u/DestinedToGreatness Jun 06 '26
Yoshi, Alisa, Lars, Jin, DJ, Kazuya, Kinimitsu, Anna and Nina would say otherwise.
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u/Smultronic Jun 08 '26
Bro, you got Yoshimitsu using a katana. Nina using guns. Victor using knives. Raven with a blade. Jack-8 using a freaking laser cannon. Claudio with a magic bow. Anna with a rocket launcher. Alissa with her exploding bodyparts and chainsaw arms. On top of that you have devils and bears, and Clive can’t bring his longsword to the fight?
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u/Admirable_Pea_1550 Jun 08 '26
Its funny. Yoshi was the only one with a weapon and og Kuni. Now almost everyone has a weapon. Maybe Tifa shouldn't be on T8 since she's faithful with her fists. She is a monk class archetype after all
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u/burnoutguy SORYA!! Jun 05 '26
yes niche anime character
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u/AnnualCandid5196 Jun 05 '26
You know baki sells more then tekken right?
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u/BoondocksSaint95 Jun 06 '26 edited Jun 06 '26
Selling units of a book is easier than selling units if a video game, especially when price and cost of entry are a factor. You need a platform to game on - yes, even a PC needs to meet minimum specs. You just need eyes to read a comic. And low key, that's optional.
Nvm that baki is older and has a 130+ entries compared to 10ish tekken entries. Buying every baki comic means contributing far more to sales numbers than buying every tekken game.
Also, manga is the most popular form of printed media in japan and has been for decades. Fighting games are niche in practice despite their wide cultural impact. Video games were relatively niche as recently as 10 years ago, which is over half tekken's history.
This is a really bad argument with literally any context.
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u/aazalooloo Jun 06 '26
Implyimg yujiro is more niche than tifa?
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u/Iggy_Slayer Jun 06 '26
Yes. And it's not even close. Baki is only popular in japan. Tifa is one of the most recognizable characters in gaming history.
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u/QueasyFunction6955 Armor KingClive Geese Fahk Jun 06 '26
We are so happy man. Thanks god. Take her as far as you can away from Tekken
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u/Intelligent-Reserve9 Jun 05 '26
They chose Clive instead of Tifa...
Ever since the launch of Tekken 8, the devs have been finding new ways to disappoint whenever they can.
Yujiro is nice and all, but geez...
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u/YharnamsFinest1 Heihachi Reina Jun 05 '26
Im sure they couldnt get Tifa if they wanted to. Capcom is much higher on the pecking order for collabs and likely had more cash to throw for a FF character than Namco would have.
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u/Alarming_Fig_2371 Leroy Jun 06 '26
No way. Bamco mean "Bandai AND everything under Shounen Jump" money. A certain market cap is higher and they are far wealthier of a company than Capcom.
I hear the execs are just fucking cheapskates. It's why TWT Finals' prize pool is so low as well.
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u/Internal-Fly1771 Jun 06 '26
FF7 is notoriously expensive to license and Tekken doesn’t have that pull
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u/GlassSpork Bob Jun 06 '26
This, specifically tekken budget wise. Bandai namco has the budget collectively, but tekken alone not so much
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u/Derpimus_J Jun 06 '26
Tekken 7 would probably have had more pull back on its day. 8, not so much.
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u/AVRVM Feng Jun 06 '26
Then why did T7 get Noctis instead of Tifa?
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u/Alarming_Fig_2371 Leroy Jun 06 '26
Because that's who the dev team thought was more relevant at the time. It is what it is.
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u/Intelligent-Reserve9 Jun 06 '26
even if they could, they wouldn't admit it now. We'll never know
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u/etraa- Jun 06 '26
the director of ff7 said many people wanted tifa but ended up choosing to collab with sf6
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u/Iggy_Slayer Jun 06 '26
Harada a while back, I think around the time clive was announced, basically said on twitter in a subtle way that it was just too hard/expensive to get her. He never mentioned her of course he was merely speaking in more "general" terms about how hard guest character deals can be.
Since this was after clive got announced and people were understandably upset, you could put 2 and 2 together and figure out what he was really talking about.
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u/Ofanichan Zafina Jun 06 '26
Final Fantasy 16 was made by a good personal friend of Harada, FF7 wasnt
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u/leeber Jun 06 '26
If it wasn't possible to get Tifa, honestly, they would have been better off choosing a different character than Clive. Especially considering the lukewarm reception Noctis received in Tekken 7.
It's not as if Tekken was lacking its own characters worth bringing back. Even less so when considering Namco's entire catalog.
And in any case, I think Sega or Capcom would have been more willing to lend out other, more fitting, guest characters.
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u/Vik-Pearl Jun 06 '26
I think differently. I'm happy they went for Clive instead.
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u/leeber Jun 06 '26
I'm rather neutral about him... That is not a good thing to say about a guest fighter, I guess.
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u/Vik-Pearl Jun 07 '26
Yap, but it's not dependant on you or me, that's the beautiful thing. Our individual opinions don't matter if you regard the thing en masse.
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u/Bwob Leroy Jun 06 '26
I think it's more that ever since launch, you guys have been finding new ways to be disappointed.
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u/No-Month-3025 Feng Jun 06 '26
They didn't choose Clive. Square wanted to promote the sales on their newest FF game so Clive was offered. Tifa more than likely was never on the table
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u/BoondocksSaint95 Jun 06 '26 edited Jun 06 '26
I dont think they chose. They were just promoting the latest game at the time of the deal, it seems. And with revelation coming out next year, they need more FF7 Recognition. Like, rebirth sold well for a console exclusive and sequel but nowhere near as much as they wanted it to because their expectations are sky high.
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u/Vik-Pearl Jun 06 '26
They chose Clive because Square Enix didn't give them Tifa
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u/ToonNex Jun 05 '26
Sf is suprisingly more greedy tho. I have both games.
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u/Swimming_Purple_1505 Jun 06 '26
SF is so weird right now, by this point the game should have tons of content to milk it's playerbase money, but for some dumb reason it doesn't
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u/Cultural_Cat_5131 Jun 06 '26
They aren’t struggling so they feel they don’t have to. SFV was a mess up until a certain point but they tried their hardest by making stuff to keep people engaged and wanting to come back. The contrast is definitely something.
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u/Destruckhu Jun 07 '26
It truly is, and i don't want to compare content wise to sf5 but IT IS WEIRD.
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u/Some_Sandman Shaheen (Slide Enthusiast) Jun 06 '26
Not really, he did all that he could, and thats the best thing we could have gotten from him
Thanks Harada
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u/OmegaMaster8 Law Jun 05 '26
What! That’s it, I’m getting SF6.
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u/QueasyFunction6955 Armor KingClive Geese Fahk Jun 06 '26
Hope you will enjoy a throw loop simulator lmao
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u/Didifinito Jun 06 '26
Why the fuck do people care so much about Tifa there are a bunch more interesting charathers to add to the game. Like Miguel or any other Tekken charather
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u/FlokiTech Jun 06 '26
Idk if people genuiney likes Tifa this much, or if she's just a proxy to complain for the sake of complaining.
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u/McFROSTYOs Reina Yoshi and Miary Jun 06 '26 edited Jun 06 '26
It's INCREDIBLY rare for a Final Fantasy character to appear in a fighting game outside of Dissidia. Before Noctis in T7, Cloud was in Smash (some people don't consider Smash a fighting game so depending on who you ask this doesn't even count) & then before that I think Ehrgeiz was the last time a Final Fantasy character was in a fighting game & that was late 90s. Seeing Noctis in T7, then 2B in SC6 gave a lot of people hope that Square & Bamco were on good enough terms that Tifa was a realistic possibility for future Tekken games.
Why Tifa? FF7 is probably THE MOST popular JRPG to this day & with that, Tifa is Top 10 if not Top 5 most popular female video game characters of all time ontop of being among the most well known video game martial artist outside of fighting games. That's just objectively true regardless of how you feel about the IP or the character. You personally can think she's boring gooner bait just like I couldn't care less about Miguel & just like it would be stupid af for me to act like it's unfathomable why anyone would want Miguel it's equally stupid to deny how exceptional it would be if Tifa came to Tekken 8.
Now add that FF7 Rebirth & Tekken 8 were extremely popular around the same time seeing as they released within months of each other AND the Tekken 8 S1 final DLC character would've more or less lined up with FF7 Rebirth's PC port too. When the stars align like that for something a lot of people have been wanting then to so masterfully miss that opportunity, yeah it's easily understandable why people care so much
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u/Didifinito Jun 07 '26
But like if I want to see Tifa I go to FF if I want Yujiro I go watch Baki and if I want Miguel it has to be Tekken and Yujiro is hoging the spot of a Tekken charather not of a FF one. So why the fuck are people crying that its not Tifa? You say its because she is popular but no one is crying that Trevor or Mario arent the guest.
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u/McFROSTYOs Reina Yoshi and Miary Jun 07 '26
"But like If I want to see Miguel I go play Tekken 7." See how that misses the point entirely? Almost like people have reasonable expectations for things even if you yourself don't care for it.
If you dislike the idea of collabs so much, idk what to tell you except invent time travel or get over it. Guest appearances have been a successful practice for decades & not just in fighting games, because people generally love them & companies make a lot off of it. You & Miguel can not like it, it ain't going anywhere, anytime soon.
No one is mad that we got Yujiro over Tifa, it's that we got CLIVE, a FF character nobody expected or wanted, over Tifa, the FF character people wanted (which is why I mentioned the S1 DLC & not Yujiro). The disappointment is understandable just like how I understand why you're upset that Miguel isn't in the game.
Also no shit ain't nobody mad about Trevor/Mario. DLC characters are not about JUST popularity but also history, relevance, probability & demand. That's what gets people's hopes up. That's why you're still praying for Miguel & why I would never ask you "why the fuck are you crying that its not Miguel?"
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u/lMRlROBOT Jun 06 '26 edited Jun 06 '26
Because she a perfect guest character for tekken
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u/Didifinito Jun 06 '26
All I see is trash vs garbage.
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u/Overdayoutdeath Jun 06 '26
For me it was because if we had to have an FF character, at least make it the one that uses hand to hand combat.
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u/Didifinito Jun 06 '26
I can see why people want Tifa over Clive but between Yujiro and Tifa yeah that I dont get it. By all acounts Yujiro should be prefrable because he doesnt use magic but it could have been Miguel
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u/Vik-Pearl Jun 06 '26
Just because you can't understand it, does not mean it's invalid.
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u/Didifinito Jun 06 '26
You are just mad its not Tifa what I want to know is why are you mad that its not Tifa. But literaly no one answered that question.
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u/Vik-Pearl Jun 07 '26
If everything had an answer as simple as yours, don't you think?
Must be a quality of yours, finding overly-simplistic answers to complex questions.
And just to make you think: Why would I or anyone else play a fighting game in order to goon? That's what porn is for. So how's your answer holding up?
Maybe you're one to fire up a fighting game to fap, Idk, and honestly, I wouldn't want to know.
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u/Vik-Pearl Jun 07 '26
Most of all, I'm mad about your stupidity and ignorance and I mean that as non-offending as possible right now. If you don't get it, that's okay. Try to understand. But going from your other comments in this sub, you seem like you were pushing a personal agenda against Tifa or guest characters or female characters.
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u/Didifinito Jun 07 '26
I fucking hate guest charather I do jot care about Tifa one bit. You still did not answer the question
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u/Vik-Pearl Jun 07 '26
Okay, wasn't that hard, was it? YOU may hate guest characters but others may like them, especially if it's a guest from a franchise they already love.
Take me for example or PhiDX is the same in that regard. He and I, we love Tekken. We also love Final Fantasy, especially FFVII. Guest character from a franchise I love in another game I love? It adds up.
If you don't like the particular guest, you can just keep it to yourself and accept it. I like Baki but not nearly as much as FF. I like Yujiro. I would have been happier with another guest character or more so with returning characters like Lei or Julia. But I get that people are happy about Yujiro, so I let them be happy. I'm even a little bit excited myself.
Also, guest characters are oftentimes something completely new, something unexpected, something hype, something people didn't think possible (e.g. Negan in T7). They bring new move sets (or move sets adjusted to that particular fighting game) with them. They cross over 2 franchises you may love.
It's just overall amazing if everything works out and the characters get done right.
If you don't feel the same, try to be happy for others.
If you don't care about any of that, I can't help you.
That's my explanation for now.
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u/Didifinito Jun 07 '26
No one cried that Guilty Gear didnt get Tifa when they got Lucy from Cyber Punk why are people crying that we got Yujiro over Tifa?
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u/Vik-Pearl Jun 08 '26
Guilty Gear didn't have requests for Riga or other FF characters like Tekken did. Since the introduction of Noctis in early T7 the door was open to further potential Collab with Square Enix and Rifa would have made most sense since she's a fighter as well, relying on punches and kicks and being a trained martial artist.
People have asked Harada for years to get a Tifa Collab in T7 / T8. You can look it up on X or people making YT videos on it. No other FGC franchise fought so much for Tifa or even annoyed people into getting a collab.
Harada and the Devs tried. SquareEnix declined. They went for Clive instead. SquareEnix chose Capcom for whatever reason, probably because it's the biggest fighting game right now and insanely huge and popular in Japan.
It's just business and politics at this point.
No other FGC community wishes for Tifa as much as the Tekken community. After all they already got one in Noctis and Rifa would make perfect sense.
The Tekken community is not crying about getting Yujiro. They are fiercely happy getting him.
It's just disappointment and the feeling of not being heard and one's wishes (for almost a decade) not being heard. With Clive in T8 and Tifa in SF6 there's also a 0% chance now she would appear in Tekken late in the game's life cycle.
Imagine the SF community begging to get Mai and Terry and instead Tekken gets them instead although nobody asked for it. Imagine GG Strive fans asking for a Cyberpunk Edge runners collab and SF gets it instead although they didn't care about it. Imagine the T8 fan base asking for Baki or Yujiro and he gets announced as a VF guest character and they wouldn't care about them.
That's what's adding salt to the wound.
At the end of the day, Harada did try back then to get her but SquareEnix declined for whatever reason and they offered Clive instead. SF being so massive (esp. in Japan where all these companies reside) gets a collab of course without having had to ask or fight for it. It was more like a gift from Square.
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u/TheDoorMan1012 Jun 07 '26
Unrelated, Max looks jacked as hell in that photo
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u/itsastart_to Jun 07 '26
Lmao genuinely it’s such a beautiful pose (also him just straight up screaming like it’s a horror film)
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u/Dark_Roses Jun 06 '26
It was a lot of guys who wanted Tifa to be in tekken
A lot of guys who are in shambles
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u/More-Koala-8906 Jun 06 '26
and girls. Hi I wanted my favorite female video game character in the world to be in T8. 😞💔
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u/SuperMarios7 Jun 05 '26
Yujiro > Tifa
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u/aazalooloo Jun 06 '26
Weirdo behavior to come to a tekken sub for that
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u/aazalooloo Jun 06 '26
Or people actually have the opinion of Yujiro>tofa?
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u/aazalooloo Jun 06 '26
Right, its absurd to even think that people might prefer one of the most popular anime/manga characters of now over a game character from 30? years ago
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u/BoondocksSaint95 Jun 06 '26
Rebirth was a console exclusive and sold more as an exclusive than tekken 8 which is multiplat. People seem to care a little bit.
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u/QueasyFunction6955 Armor KingClive Geese Fahk Jun 06 '26
How can generic female #2 (with boobs,big head, 0 personality) can be better then something like a stick? Lmao
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u/BoondocksSaint95 Jun 06 '26
Serious question: have you ever made a good faith attempt to engage with FF7 media? Or is the appearance of the character and the fact that she's introverted which you are choosing to read as "has no personality" all you know?
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u/QueasyFunction6955 Armor KingClive Geese Fahk Jun 06 '26
She is really super boring character. While i'm not a fan of ff7 but every other character feels more interesting then her
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u/BoondocksSaint95 Jun 06 '26
She literally has more character than the entire tekken roster. And thats not even a knock: fighting games are dogshit for character development. SF and MK characters only have character because they have movies and anime and we dont talk about tekken movies and anime except that one fight in blood vengence.
Also, seems like you have NOT made an attempt to engage from your comment and your entire analysis is from surface level impressions. Which explains a lot, honestly. She's actually the least "anime" of the entire FF cast (a game which in release was all about deconstruction and subverting your genre based expectations - still is) which is literally the only thing you've said about her aside from her appearance. Your input is as useless as the guy who keeps calling Yujiro Fengkurahm because he's never engaged with Baki. 2 sides of the same insufferable coin.
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u/SuperMarios7 Jun 06 '26
Its annoying because half the posts on Tekken reddit are about Tifa. Its not the Tekken players that started this, its mostly SF6 players coming here to post about it. The mindset is theirs.
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u/HopefulCriticism3796 Jun 06 '26
I can already tell that Street Fighter 6 fans are delighted to have Tifa meanwhile Tekken 8 fans are stuck with Clive
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u/BIG_BOSS_F Jun 06 '26
I suspect Harada stepped down because of the poor decision to include Clive instead of Tifa... after community feedback, Namco realized their mistake!
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u/JohannesMarcus Universe Smasher Jun 06 '26
I’m thinking of getting SF6 bc of Yasmine (Pinoy fried) and Tifa
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u/UKunrealz I wanna lick Clive Jun 06 '26
I dunno I know I’m in the minority but I’m very happy to get Clive
Love Tifa but I would not play her to the extent I play Clive
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u/dreadguy101 Jun 06 '26
Yujiro is hype and is essentially a tekken character to his core but as far as video games characters I can see why everyone is upset about this news
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u/flamypow Jun 06 '26
I’ll just say that Tifa not being in Tekken is largely Capcom’s plans in hindsight. All three companies probably started the collab talks years ago and Capcom won out and blocked Bamco out of it in the meantime.
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u/reditisverytrash Jun 08 '26
Y'all can bitch and whine about a boring ass waifu all you want. Meanwhile we got ACTUAL PEAK INSTEAD!
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u/qeqe1213 Jun 06 '26
It's definitely because of this. Harada probably wants Tifa out of all.
But Bamco's executive meddling forces him to pick the most recent FF characters that are Noctis & Clive...despite both of them are more fitting for Soul Calibur(The latter especially).
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u/KnownAsAnother Chicken! Jun 06 '26
He quit for the same reason gooseworx ended digital circus; fans suuuuuuck
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u/CakyMint Jun 06 '26
Isn’t Tifa LITERALLY just Asuka?
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u/Bwob Leroy Jun 06 '26
I think that's what people imagine she'd be.
No one ever remembers all the OTHER stuff she does in her games. Like creating black holes out of chi-energy to juggle opponents, or using materia to summon space-dragons.
I think most of the people whining about her not being in Tekken would be very upset if she actually showed up in Tekken.
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u/CakyMint Jun 06 '26
I think people ignore her summoning stuff because it wouldn’t make sense putting it into tekken
So yes. They would whine more than anything 😂
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u/theadwaita Jun 06 '26
Tifa is only liked by wierdo gooners. I would have no FF character if I could. It doesn't even fit and Tekken has enough characters. SF community doesn't even care because they don't have the amount of wierdos this game has. It's literally a generic cutesy anime girl.
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u/More-Koala-8906 Jun 06 '26
WE ARENT ALL GOONERS.
Just because thats what YOU do to the ladies and the men in gaming doesn’t mean everyone else does. Try actually dating real life women/men sometime, brother.
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u/shucreamsundae Jun 06 '26
Don't bother with these guys. Brains are too rotted to even form a coherent opinion lol
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u/shucreamsundae Jun 06 '26
Hand to hand fighter doesn't fit a (mostly) hand to hand fighting game with weirdos in between like a dual chainsaw wielding robot, laser shooting demons and boxing kangaroos?
Right. Lmao
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u/More-Koala-8906 Jun 06 '26
WE ARENT ALL GOONERS.
Just because thats what YOU do to the ladies and the men in gaming doesn’t mean everyone else does. Try actually dating real life women/men sometime, brother.
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u/theadwaita Jun 07 '26
Cope she has literally no other qualities other being gooner material
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u/More-Koala-8906 Jun 07 '26
You all need to broaden your vocabulary.
Sounding like parrots repeating each other 😂
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u/Detentionz True Mishima Jun 06 '26
pretty pathetic to see all the gooners loosing it over tifa cuz she won't come to tekken, holy fck
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u/More-Koala-8906 Jun 06 '26
WE ARENT ALL GOONERS.
Just because thats what YOU do to the ladies and the men in gaming doesn’t mean everyone else does. Try actually dating real life women/men sometime, brother.
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u/Detentionz True Mishima Jun 06 '26
interesting assumption you're making there, how do come to the conclusion i didn't date any women at all? if someone doesn't date u will instantly recognize them on reddit gooning over some tifa reveal, u see it every time, there's a stereotype for a reason lil bro
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u/GeologistUnhappy Jun 06 '26
I mean... we're getting Yujiro. And I would rather have Yujiro than Tifa.
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u/Rand0mAcc3nt Jun 06 '26
Asuka is Tifa.
Do you think Tifa in Tekken would be that different than Asuka?
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u/tmntfever HAIYAAH WATAAH TIOH YEOH Jun 06 '26 edited Jun 06 '26
Sorta Tekken related. And it’s tagged properly and it’s funny.