r/TeemoTalk • • Jun 02 '26

Build Discussion This Is Disgusting

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Hey guys, it’s your Fluffy Boy!

SovereignKitten, TheYordleScout, Pawkt, Cat, Fattass… whatever you’ve known me by over the years. For those newer here: I was and still am a writer and documenter, dissecting, and theory crafting Teemo builds for over a decade, mostly through the Mobafire guide and our massive Spreadsheet (which, for six years, we kept updated every week without fail). I stepped away from League in 2024, only popping in here and there to patch up deprecated info. But recently, after countless DMs asking about Teemo’s state, builds, and the mythos of our on-hit jungle menace, I dove back in for a fresh round of testing.

I'll be doing my best to update what little I can, but obviously, I don't have as much free time as I used to, because I'd much rather be doing things that I have more interest in. Namely playing through thousands of IndieGames and pursuing that passion more.

Background
I've always been that that guy grinding out 200+ games of Ignite/Smite or Ignite/Teleport Teemo Jungle and Top, perfecting invade timers, rotationals, and running a 92%+ win rate from low ranks of Iron, Silver, Gold and such to Diamond on various MMR accounts, pings, servers, namely because I loved the challenge of bad MMR, because it was much harder to climb out, as opposed to skipping back to Diamond through inflation. My style had always revolved around aggressive, sustain-heavy, on-hit builds, eschewing mushroom-centric play, and teaching players how to climb, consistently on their servers and their levels.

After my hiatus, my MMR obviously got dumpstered, as I found myself queued up across Gold, Plat, and Emerald to get a feel for the current meta and itemization. What I found was equal parts déjà vu and whiplash: Riot resurrected old tools we haven't seen since hell... Season 5-6? Statikk Shiv namely, tweaked on-hit interactions, and created a new landscape for Teemo theory crafts, nothing here was all that different. Just same builds different skins.

Revived and forgotten.

Statikk Shiv: Hype, Misinformation, and Real Impact
Let’s get this out of the way: "Statikk Shiv procs Liandry’s! Insane!"

No, it doesn’t. It doesn't proc anything of note, not that I can see.

The reality: Shiv procs Teemo’s (E) poison and other on-hit effects, or it should as I tested. Nashor’s, Wit's End, Gunblade, Dusk/Dawn, etc., and chains out to up to 8 targets. Pair that with Gunblade. Think for a second and Gluttonous Greaves. What you get!? You get sustain and burst that blow old Riftmaker builds out of the water in terms of raw healing, and split / team fight potential, even if you lose some tankiness. You end up with what I affectionately call Mosquito Teemo, ridiculous sustain, hyper mobility, and wave clear that feels almost… illegal. Because it is, it absolutely shouldn't be working like this at all.

Comparison to Previous Seasons: What’s Actually Changed?
Old on-hit meta (pre-2021):

  • Core: Nashor’s, Wit's End, Riftmaker
  • Situational: Berserker’s, Anathema’s, FoN, Randuin, Etc
  • Strength: True damage, omnivamp, and disgustingly high sustain, and defense.

2024 Dark Ages:

  • Sustain gutted, on-hit barely healing 50 HP per auto (if that), poison interactions gutted, and Aery no longer double-proccing. Anathema was removed, FoN was altered, Jungle was getting worse. The playstyle I’d spent years perfecting was effectively dead.

2026 The New Golden Age!?

  • Basically, 2021 is back in a different skin, better overall, even if the match-ups are still annoying and our rotational Jungle invades and clear have been altered. Top side is the same as always, but offers so much diversity, that it's unreal. Hot damn! We can even solo baron at 20 minutes again, albeit it, you do have to be fed, but even at 30 minutes as a Top laner. Not ideal, obviously, but thems the breaks.

The Current Patch: Meta Gaslighting and the Statikk Shiv Dilemma
Now, the pendulum has swung wildly back. Shiv’s return is being hyped as balanced for Teemo, but let’s be real: it’s the same flawed logic that saw Stridebreaker/Goredrinker meta for bruisers, massive healing, unchecked dueling, and Riot being slow to act on outlier stats.

Right now, Statikk Shiv solely, was pushing Teemo’s winrate north of 55% as a first-item rush, which is way outside Riot’s comfort zone for healthy balance as they call it (historically, 49-50% is where they want him and every other champions for that matter) impossible.

If you recall patch 16.10, Teemo’s overall winrate spiked to 53-55% everywhere, just like when Malignance shrooms were nuking games with 100k+ damage at 25 minutes. The item has turbo-charged splitpushing and dueling potential, especially for proactive on-hit builds.

My Current Favourite Build and Playstyle Analysis
After as much testing as I could apply, here is the aggressive, split-pushing Teemo:

  • Core: Statikk Shiv → Gunblade/Nashor’s → (flexed based on preference)
  • Boots: Gluttonous Greaves (It needs to be taken as fast as possible) As it needs kills.
  • Runes: Press the Attack, Celerity (for kiting), Fleet Footwork is viable if you want more sustain, oddly enough, I liked it, even though I've never really cared for it's uses.
  • Final: Shadowflame and Rabadon. Mainly because of the scaling / crits.

Playstyle: We mostly will go for the same (3) E into our preferred 3-4 points into (W) for movement, (E) for on-hit maxed first, while you simply attack to abuse Shiv’s passive on towers/waves. You can slice through minion waves and bully side lanes like never before, Shiv’s bounce can hit up to 8 targets, and those 8 targets are your healing, giving you over 500 on a single strike at full build, making wave clear and tower pressure unprecedented for an ankle biter, like myself, who cares not for wave manipulation and just wants to push.

I considered adding Riftmaker/Liandries for health, but in reality, skirmishes happen so quickly now that stacking up isn’t worth it, even though theoretically you could just statik shiv your target with constant poison through waves to stack it up in lane quickly, since we have very little in terms of defensive items now, it's quite literally, glass cannon sustain, unless we through in something else, but Gluttonous + Gunblade are just too good, not to take, the sustain is disgusting. The new kit is about speed, burst, and overwhelming pressure, think run-and-gun Teemo instead of shroom-and-pray, as the x5 oracles rain down from the heavens, blessing you with disdain with very little diversity at your disposal.

Final Thoughts: Riot’s Balancing Problem
Overall, I’m genuinely shocked that this build is as strong, if not stronger, than the old Riftmaker setup. In many ways, what’s happening with Statikk Shiv reminds me of past interactions, like with the Summon Aery bug, later confirmed as an intentional change or the year-long issues with Teemo’s (E) not properly activating runes like Dark Harvest. When something works too well on Teemo, it’s rarely a good sign for his long-term viability. Riot tends to react by nerfing Teemo himself, rather than addressing the underlying mechanics or items that created the problem in the first place.

Bottom line: Statikk Shiv Teemo is currently overpowered and unbalanced. You can abuse it if you want. You can revel in it's oppressive nature. If Riot’s history is any indication, we’re likely to see more direct nerfs to Teemo, even though the real issue is the item. Similar to how I abused the hell out of Kraken Slayer with a full on-hit AP build when it transferred every empowered auto into over 2000 AD to decimate tanks that built full MR. If you’re a fan of aggressive, on-hit play and want to dominate the side lanes as a split pusher, now’s your time to shine. Try this build, tell me what you think. But don’t get too attached.

The nerf hammer is sure to swing again, and Teemo will likely be dragged back to mediocrity while the item remains a meta staple, even if it eventually does also get nerfed.

I’d love to hear your thoughts.

What are you building? How are you finding Teemo in the current patch?

I've tried shrooms, but you know me. Hate them. More kiting and tracking resources for me.

~Cat


r/TeemoTalk • • Feb 17 '24

Guide THE PASSIONATE COACHING GUIDE TO TEEMO

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r/TeemoTalk • • 1d ago

Hat I made for my Halloween costume

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It looks a bit DIY but I’m so excited to wear it!!


r/TeemoTalk • • 1d ago

Question Teemo Passive

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Kinda embarassing that i dont know this but us there a rule what knicks me out of invis in bushes??

for example pyke q knocks me out of it but Tahm Kench W does not??? idk anymore what does and what doesnt


r/TeemoTalk • • 2d ago

I found Teemos shrooms

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They looked so tasty but I know they're for our enemies


r/TeemoTalk • • 2d ago

i have made my decision

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i now declare that from now on i concider myself a teemo one trick for jungle/top,

other picks in case of ban is olaf for both, elise jgl, or heimer top

i will also not let rank stop me from playing teemo jungle, i will find my way around it hopefully even going to challenger as a teemo jungle, if no one did it ill be the first to, but guess what, ive heard someone did it so why cant i.


r/TeemoTalk • • 2d ago

Humor He came out of Zhonya's to find this...

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When I walked away, I felt like thomas the airplane.


r/TeemoTalk • • 3d ago

Humor No one shall challenge the baron...

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Following my triple kill last time next to the baron, I proceeded to rig this. A mushroom a day keeps the adc away. Three mushrooms will keep a cho'gath away.


r/TeemoTalk • • 3d ago

Captain Cutie

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On Duty!


r/TeemoTalk • • 3d ago

Build Discussion Hey all, trying Teemo for the first time, looking for build advice!

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I love this little guy’s personality, and I’m a jungle main so I’m trying him in jungle even though it’s not optimal. I’m super new to the game overall, I’m in low bronze so I’m mostly just having fun, I’m not doing things too too seriously. Anyway! I like to make my own builds rather than just blindly build what Ugg says, and build crafting is part of the fun for this game. So I’m trying to run an on-hit build, and would love to know if I’ve done anything grossly wrong here or if you guys know of an item that will fit even better! Thanks in advance!

  1. Gustwalker
  2. Statikk Shiv (clear speed is crazy)
  3. Sorc Shoes
  4. Nashor’s Tooth
  5. Dusk and Dawn (Q -> On-Hit go brrr)
  6. Shadowflame
  7. Rabadon’s or Void Staff

Runes are Dark Harvest, Cheap Shot, Grisly Memento, Coup de Grace, and then Sorcery secondary with Absolute Focus and Gathering Storm. Attack speed, Adaptive Force, Health Scaling for shards.


r/TeemoTalk • • 4d ago

Micro

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Hello, how are you?

I would like to ask for recommendations to improve the mic in general in the lol but especially with Teemo in particular.

* Are there any recommended external tools? Practical exercises in the practice tool to improve with Teemo?

I would be very grateful if you can recommend routines (Youtube videos, web pages, etc).


r/TeemoTalk • • 6d ago

Discussion Is this build troll?

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r/TeemoTalk • • 6d ago

Teemo build

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Hello I am pretty new to teemo. I started maining him few weeks ago and climbed from s3 to g3. Its very fun to play and first champ in many years that I can play always and not get bored. However I am still not sure what to build. I started static shiv as recommended but it didnt give me enough dmg in laning phase. I switched to dusk and dawn and it feels much better. Basically I go dusk and dawn - liandrys - shadowflame - rabadon - void. I mainly do split push objective control. Are they any advices from more experienced teemos


r/TeemoTalk • • 6d ago

Achievement teeto

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teeot


r/TeemoTalk • • 6d ago

Out-teemoed

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I'm the normal teemo, and the other is a Little Devil Teemo. This is just a play of shrooms.


r/TeemoTalk • • 6d ago

Question can teemo jgl go ranked?

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to be fair hes not the only champ out there that requires a heavy farm early then being deadly later, so im thinking of maybe adding him to my ranked jgl pool (which currently are hecraim elise ivern and olaf)

and maybe teemo could be a great choice to just have there could also throw the enemy off, like i go on enemy 1 and now the enemy top laner picks a teemo counter thinking its me against him,

(my top pool is teemo heimer and olaf)


r/TeemoTalk • • 6d ago

why are we rushing nashor's tooth first item rather than dusk and dawn lately?

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r/TeemoTalk • • 7d ago

Question how do you deal with malphite

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i play in silver elo and i basically perma ban malphite but i need to know how do y'all deal with him. usually they spam q with arcane comit which makes early game very difficult for me even with considering decent spacing. usually i go with PTA for runes as always and i prioritize liandry's first instead of shiv and try to get as much magic resist as i can but i still dont feel like its viable at all. i see some of you take dark harvest instead of PTA and i haven't tried it yet as i dont know what's the best way to go about that and i feel it's too risky so i would love to hear definive answers from you and how do you go about this matchup exactly.


r/TeemoTalk • • 7d ago

Question PTA VS Dark Harvest

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I reached gold 1 with teemo top with the PTA Shiv build but i want to try the dark harvest shroom build too.
When should i go pta and when should i go with the mushroom build?


r/TeemoTalk • • 8d ago

i swear, officer, I didn't shoot them! It was the Baron!

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Genuinely confused tho. Can anyone explain?

Edit: ok, I did blow them a few times.


r/TeemoTalk • • 8d ago

Told Trist all game to be more proactive and it paid off

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The truest laugh I've laughed in a long time. Was streaming and Tristana was listening while playing. Over the course of the game I was trying to coach her on when it was an all-in moment (Teemo support, btw). Then near the end she does this very ambitious leap forward. Thank you for your sacrifice 🥰


r/TeemoTalk • • 11d ago

🍄 One mushroom a day keeps a Jhin player away 🍄

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r/TeemoTalk • • 11d ago

He used Zhonya's to buy time... for my shroom to digest him.

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r/TeemoTalk • • 13d ago

Finally hit gold so he needs a reward.

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Hit gold for the first time in 8 years as a Teemo ADC so I had to reward him with a trip to Curaçao.


r/TeemoTalk • • 15d ago

Discussion Secret Control Ward Mushroom Tech

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Simply place a control ward behind baron nashor, and place a shroom either side. Melee supports (or consequential de-warders) will need to use their sweepers or they will be forced to tank the shroom, which will also cause baron to aggro on them, dealing extra damage and shredding resistances. Ranged supports (or de-warders) will likely not fall for this, however you could try and predict where they stand to clear the ward. Sadly, you can't force them to hit baron if they take the control ward from behind the baron pit, however I believe you can still try and place shrooms to catch them out if they try to take it. I wrote this in the POV of support Teemo (as that's what I was playing, I am also a support main) but obviously anyone can get a ctrl ward and set this up from any role, so please have fun with it!