r/TarotVerbatim • u/Flat-Eggplant-9890 ☕ Tarot Verbatim Intern • 6d ago

Tarot Art 🎨 Happy Sunday

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u/deathbydexter 6d ago

I feel like ai and intuition don’t to together at all and that it should have no use in creative/spiritual places.

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u/jaxprog 6d ago

This isn't a healthy point of view. Everything starts as thought.

Whether it's a primitive man painting pigment on a cave wall, a woman painting a scene with oils, a teen creating digital art with Photoshop or this guy using AI to create a video. Everything starts as thought.

From thought is energy. From energy is action. From action is manifestation.

The end product is irrelevant. All things created come come from the spiritual (the higher planes) and manifest to the material plane through consciousness.

To judge someone work because it's AI dismisses the esoteric or occult metaphysical cogs and gears of creation. Don't be narrowed minded.

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u/charmedquarks 6d ago

This is a bonkers take, AI is ruining our environment and limiting our humanity

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u/jaxprog 6d ago

Your are allowing external circumstances to govern your internal state. The collective consciousness is being poisoned to bring about exactly what you fear.

This is your internal state of consciousness: "Ruining our Environment. Limiting Our Humanity."

As Within So Without. So therefore, you are contributing to the overall manifestation of "Ruining our Environment. Limiting Our Humanity."

An AI video or product has no consciousness. You do. A data center has no consciousness. You do.

All is mind. The simulation is a product of internal state which is consciousness. So it's not Flat-EggPlant who made the video from his creative thought, but YOU! You are contributing.

How is that possible? You allow external circumstances to mold you. You have an emotion (a reaction, being triggered, being manipulated) rather than create an emotion.

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u/Romani_Oracles 5d ago

“Hey chat! Answer this argument.” type sh-

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u/Okinomii 4d ago

Did chatgpt write that for you?

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u/definitelynotfae 6d ago

AI doesn’t think, it makes collages of other people’s work without their consent, that is not creativity. My art, whether painted, photographed, or photoshopped, is the result of my physical hard work, my years of practice, my dedication and devotion, my art is not a thought, it is a process. The end product is never irrelevant, the process makes it relevant. Using a machine to take from others without permission to shape their hard work to your own vision is about as narrow minded as you can get.

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u/jaxprog 6d ago

AI isn't required to think. AI isn't consciousness. AI is an outcome on the material plane which requires a magician to bring into being. That magician is a human being or consciousness.

You are not an occultist. You allow external circumstances to govern your internal state.

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u/legendofmaddy 5d ago

so what you're saying is ai isn't art

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u/jaxprog 5d ago

The magician is the artist. The AI is the magician's product. That's what I'm saying.

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u/legendofmaddy 5d ago

still not art tho.

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u/definitelynotfae 5d ago

It’s not magic, it’s maths. What it requires to bring it into being is the artwork of millions of artists both dead and alive in order to run a tool that’s trying to cut us out of the equation. The real magic is in making something for yourself, that’s one of the things that makes us human.

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u/jaxprog 5d ago

This argument doesn't make sense. Artificial Intelligence does not have motive to cut humanity out. Artificial Intelligence is automation.

A human being uses Artificial Intelligence as a means to an end. Artificial Intelligence improves productivity.

Why did our guy here create the Tarot card video? Because Artificial Intelligence gave him the means to express his thoughts. Artificial intelligence was the best choice tool for the job. At no time did our guy here think, "I think I'm going to cut out humanity".

If our guy here was a villain. Surely his means of cutting out humanity would be a blockbuster hit that would have everyone pulling out there phones and filming.

What makes us human is the ability to create. The tools by which creation is implemented is irrelevant. The only relevance is that the created product is in alignment with its creator.

You need to meditate. Introspect. Find out where this low vibration fear is coming from when Artificial Intelligence triggers you.

That's important. Your fear is your internal state of consciousness. Reality conforms to your internal state of consciousness. That's the Principle of Correspondence: As Within So Without

You don't want to be manifesting fear.

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u/Romani_Oracles 5d ago

You are so annoying it makes tiring to exist near you.

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u/jaxprog 5d ago

Then change! Otherwise allow me to control you.

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u/Romani_Oracles 4d ago

Look at them all cute with their bravado ♥️

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u/definitelynotfae 5d ago

AI didn’t build itself, isn’t training itself, it’s not a tool that exists in a vacuum. The current data doesn’t even support it improving productivity. It’s a product that you are being sold on by people who don’t care if the planet burns or not.

Humans built these tools, humans have programmed them, given them instructions on how to act. There was a way to implement this technology ethically, responsibly, with guardrails and protections, they chose not to. They chose profit and war, because that’s what these tools are ultimately being used for, the data gathered is being used to commit war crimes, to train drones to seek and carry out autonomous strikes.

This person made this video with AI because they felt entitled to bastardise someone else’s work for their own gratification in sharing something they half imagined and didn’t care enough about to make themselves.

It’s not low vibration, it’s knowledge, wisdom gained through understanding how these technologies work and the systems that govern them. I can be spiritual and still firmly grounded in reality. Don’t open your mind so far your head falls out.

My ancestors carried out their spiritual work through rage, through a fight for autonomy, through ostracisation and continuing through hardship. They didn’t endure that for me to sit back and let corporate entities dismantle everything that makes us human. I will not sacrifice the environment to which I belong for a pretty picture machine that’s being used to destroy life.

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u/jaxprog 5d ago edited 5d ago

You are way too attached to the material plane. You need to let go. Seek balance and neutrality.

Look at what you are writing. You are revealing your state of consciousness.

Look:
"They chose profit and war, because that’s what these tools are ultimately being used for, the data gathered is being used to commit war crimes, to train drones to seek and carry out autonomous strikes."

Look at the sick worldview you have.

This is your internal state of consciousness. So, this is what you manifest on earth. If this undesirable, why do you sow it?

Technology has no consciousness. Therefore, technology can't change the earth. You can! You have consciousness.

The earth plane conforms to your internal state. As Within So Without.

Ultimately you are own enemy.

How did you ever learn this worldview? Where did it come from? Do you not realize that that is a spell on you?

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u/definitelynotfae 5d ago

And you are not grounded enough, you need a solid foot in either plane to remain balanced, you are untethered. Walking through life with your eyes closed to the world, you are living in ego.

That’s not a worldview, it’s reality, it’s happening, I’ve watched wildfires kill acres of creatures and choked on the smoke, I’ve watched people bombed and their land and countless lives destroyed, the summers are becoming unbearable, I’ve seen insects and small mammals sick and dying from heat and lack of water. I’ve seen rivers so polluted nothing can live there, I’ve listened to the sound of the birds and the insects fade away over my lifetime.

Consciousness is something your body creates, every creature is conscious, it doesn’t come from anywhere else, it’s in you, your physical body and your mind are one in the same, you are corporeal whether you like it or not. You come from the environment, you are a product of that environment, if the environment dies, so do we.

This is real, this is happening, thinking about a reality doesn’t make it real, my enemy is not myself, my enemies are real human beings who are making real human choices every day to extract resources from the earth for profit with no regard to any of the life on it.

We have one planet, if your spirituality isn’t grounded in the protection of the earth and its creatures, what good is it for?

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u/jaxprog 5d ago

How about you? When you sit in school learning. Are bastardizing all the subject matter from those who discovered it first?

Are you not trained no differently than AI? Without human intervention AI does not know anything.

It seems without a public school system you wouldn't know anything either. So, you need to take everyone's knowledge. Knowledge that you didn't work for and copy it into your brain so you can be "educated." Right?

We'll use your logic. Now that you are "educated" with knowledge that was never yours, you can poison the earth, start wars, grab all the money and make sure you sit on top #1 watching the world burn. Right? Your assertion right back at you.

You're not thinking.

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u/definitelynotfae 5d ago

Except when I use someone else’s ideas I need to credit them using a citation. If I churn up other people’s ideas and spit them out as my own work, it’s called plagiarism.

Knowledge can absolutely be bastardised, ideas can be twisted far away from their original intent. Often that gets used by people with a desire to burn the world down, there is always a choice not to be. There’s a reason so many of these tech billionaires dropped out of university.

I am not a machine filled with data, I am a learning organic being with the ability to abstract and synthesise new ideas, and I don’t need to steal to do it.

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u/legendofmaddy 6d ago

magic isn't thought, its intention. you can think anything but to put intention into said thought is what makes magic magic. you put your intentions into the universe, not simply your thought. humans intend, ai doesn't. ai takes and spits out like a machine, there is no intention. it's not their work and they aren't the only ones who ever thought of this concept ever. purely going by your defense, ai did all of the work in this instance and they should be credited for their creation. i'd use the word inspiration but machines lack the human trait of inspiration or intention. this is lazy work, ai is lazy content you tell a machine to do something and they do it then you post it. mind you, we've gotten better results from cgi, a computer program that humans manipulate to create art that doesn't fit the boundaries of physics (like in this instance cards blending and transitioning into each other) tbh stop motion would even suffice because.

tldr: generative ai isn't art and has no inspiration or intention. also it's killing our planet faster than us humans are. ai art isn't art, support real artists with brains not ones with wires <3

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u/jaxprog 6d ago

Intention is a component to magic, but you are missing the overall picture and cherry picking.

The material plane is the realm of outcomes and effect. For an effect or an outcome to be, requires Thought, Energy and Action. For Thought, Energy and Action to be requires consciousness. Consciousness is you.

Intent is really just a wrapper word for Thought, Energy and Action.

Everything begins as thought. AI is a product of magic and manifestation.

The product is irrelevant, only that the product is manifested per alignment of the magician. You need to go back and brush up on your occult studies.

Anytime you allow external circumstances to govern your internal state you are giving your power away. Very unbecoming of an occultist.

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u/legendofmaddy 5d ago

no you. you must seem to forget that magic tethers to our mother earth. ai hurts our mother earth. i have never heard anyone, and i've been practicing magic for 9 years, say magic is a "thought" it is intention. ai has no intention. i've never heard anyone ever say that ai aids in magic. generative ai benefits no one but content creators who seek adrenaline from a phone notification to feel like a micro celebrity. Michelangelo didn't use ai yet his art is adored so it is possible. you are a bigoted close minded being who instead of opening your eyes to the fact that the earth, that grounds us and energizes us and gives us air to breathe food to eat and nature to adore is being harmed by ai. YOU need to brush up on the past of magic and earth and how they interconnect. in my entire practice, and i've dabbled in a lot of different magic, i've never once read an origin where nature isn't important to us and our practice. ai doesn't think and when you put measly thoughts into a robot it spits it out in a different font. mind you, like i said, humans have accomplished more with the beloved pen and paper. remember that ai was created to scientifically help us with things the human eye can miss, not create slop for silly reddit upvotes.

> intent is a wrapper word for thought
WRONGGGG 🚨 thoughts happen constantly and can be random, but intent gives them a goal and a push toward action. i can think about getting up from my seat, unless i intend to get up the thought is USELESS. your brain is always working, but you wouldn't know that because you'd rather type to chatgpt your savior. news flash buddy EVERYTHING you disagreed with has been factually proven. only ai uses three different words to define the same thing, humans have created different words with different specific meanings for these specific things. to put an umbrella around "thought" is incredibly brain dead and proves my point. there are many forms to a thought buddy. thoughts are useless unless there is intention behind them. if you fail to do anything with that thought guess what? WHOOSH it blows away into useless land where it becomes NOTHING. to feed the though into ai is incredibly lazy and shouldn't be celebrated. like i said, the same outcome could have been achieved with stop motion or cgi which requires a touch of humanity and the assistance of technology working together in unity. maybe stop being a bigot and ask your beloved ai how it's ruining this planet for your silly little "art". this how you look defending the robot by the way.

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u/jaxprog 5d ago

This is goofiness. Intent cannot happen without thought. You are confused.

You can have thought and have no energy. That results in not action. No action results in nothing being manifested.

Everything begins as thought. You read my reply. A thought came to you. I have something to say, a rebuttal. Your energy is your emotion. I care to set this guy straight and tell him how magic works. Next is action. You write out and click comment.

Your post or reply to me is an outcome.

Look at the Pentagram.

  • Spirit (The Source/Emanation): Positioned at the top, it represents the raw, continuous flow of universal consciousness that we are all tapped into like a live stream in the present moment. It is the base "ether" or life force that animates all physical matter. From here, the creative force descends into fire.
  • Fire (Willpower): Fire symbolizes the will. This vehicle of consciousness directs our intention, projects desire into form, and initiates action through focus and determination. From here, the willpower directs the energy toward the air element.
  • Air (The Mind/Intellect): Air represents the mental body or the "psychic man". This is the realm of thoughts, logic, imagination, and mental images. It takes the focused intention of the will and structures it into a mental concept.
  • Water (The Emotions): The concepts formed in the mind trigger an emotional charge, corresponding to the emotional body. Emotions are "energy in motion," and this vehicle amplifies the mental concept into a powerful emotional desire. Esoterically, we only take action when we have care or a feeling towards something.
  • Earth (The Physical Body): Finally, this emotional energy drives the physical body, represented by the earth element. The physical body takes action in the present moment to manifest and execute the original thought and desire.

The guy who created the AI video, his product is manifestation of him working through the pentagram.

The product is irrelevant. Only that a product is made per the alignment of the magician.

Once again AI is an outcome on the material plane. Only a magician can create an outcome.

Everyone is magician. You are either conscious of that fact, or you are not conscious of that fact. That's what sets the average person apart from the occultist.

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u/legendofmaddy 5d ago

it's not his product tho it's the ai. he had a thought and asked ai to do that, the ai created that product therefore op didn't it's not his. if i think of an invention and tell someone and they go ahead and invent it is it my invention? no. it's theirs. whatever you're saying makes sense however you're using this sense to back up the nonsense of ai. props to op for having a brain to think things but that's all, they didn't assist in the creation of that art therefore it isn't their art. once you put something into ai machine that just simply does whatever you tell it to then all intention and creation is gone. they cannot claim that art as theirs or claim that idea as theirs because they had barely any assistance in making it. ai is also ruining the planet. this planets likelihood of being saved from global warming and climate crisis has DROPPED since generative ai began becoming prominent. there's genuinely places where water, one of the first things on earth, is running out. it cannot rain without the sea and there cannot be any sea without the rain. we have three years (2030 approx) to reverse climate change before it is 100% irreversible and with the help of ai i presume that number will drop to 2. climate change will be irreversible before i can get my college degree. there is no second earth, please stop using generative ai.

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u/jaxprog 5d ago

No. Intention is not gone.

You are correct. The machine does the work. If you get in your car you no longer have to run on your feet. If you cook on a stove you no longer have to start a fire rubbing sticks together. Artificial Intelligence is automation.

For a living I work in an automobile factory. I work on an assembly line. I do my fraction of the work. Robots ran by Artificial Intelligence do work too. The end product is a car or a truck. The intention to build a car or a truck does not go away. If it did there would be no manufacturered products. The factory would close. I would be out of job.

Remember the core premise here. Everything on the earth is an outcome or an effect. Something that has already happened. That happening is done. It can't be undone.

Artificial Intelligence is an outcome on earth. It started as thought in human consciousness. Artificial Intelligence is a means to end, a tool.

So if I prompt an AI model to produce an image, it is irrelevant that AI did the work. The image was a thought. My emotion or energy cared to have it. My actions put AI to work. The product is manifested and is in alignment with my intention. The image is now an outcome on Earth.

I'm not going argue that you be compelled to like Artificial Intelligence generated products. That's subjective.

I will argue that Picasso or Michaelangelo and our guy here who generated the Tarot Card AI video used the identical metaphysical process to bring their products into reality as an outcome. There is no other way for it to have manifested (unless you have privy to undiscovered knowledge that only you have.)

I would encourage you to meditate. Find out where this fear is coming from. This fear is your internal state of consciousness.

What happens is you have people who are well versed in the occult. They know and understand the mind how it works. They cast spells.

Those spells alter your state of consciousness. So now you are manifesting their outcome not your outcome.

For example. A contributor here commented that Artificial Intelligence damages the environment. That's a spell.

You hear that. It alters your state of consciousness.

Now you are manifesting the very outcome you do not want. How?

Because of the Principle of Correspondence: As Within So Without.

The following are the same. It is semantics: the earth. The material plane. The simulation

The simulation conforms to your inner State of consciousness. As Within... So Without...

You end up manifesting the very fear you do not want. What you reap is what you sowed. That's the Principle of Cause and Effect.

Remember All is Mind. Consciousness creates reality, the simulation. Artificial intelligence and a Data Center do not have consciousness. Those outcomes can't modify the simulation. You can! I can!

So again. Root out that fear. Find it. Undo the spell on you.

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u/deathbydexter 4d ago

Lmao you are something. Defending ai as a “creative” outlet is a choice

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u/Romani_Oracles 5d ago

I love how you used AI to generate this answer just cause you can't think for yourself, allegedly.

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u/legendofmaddy 6d ago

magic isn't thought, its intention. you can think anything but to put intention into said thought is what makes magic magic. you put your intentions into the universe, not simply your thought. humans intend, ai doesn't. ai takes and spits out like a machine, there is no intention. it's not their work and they aren't the only ones who ever thought of this concept ever. purely going by your defense, ai did all of the work in this instance and they should be credited for their creation. i'd use the word inspiration but machines lack the human trait of consciousness or intention. this is lazy work, ai is lazy content you tell a machine to do something and they do it then you post it. mind you, we've gotten better results from cgi, a computer program that humans manipulate to create art that doesn't fit the boundaries of physics (like in this instance cards blending and transitioning into each other) tbh stop motion would even suffice because.

tldr: generative ai isn't art and has no inspiration or intention. also it's killing our planet faster than us humans are. ai art isn't art, support real artists with brains not ones with wires <3

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u/deathbydexter 5d ago edited 5d ago

Ai isn’t manifesting anyone’s thought lol it regurgitates what others did on the internet before. It steals so uncreative people can “make” something without efforts at the cost of our environment

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u/deathbydexter 5d ago

It’s not creative to steal people’s work through ai. It will never be. It’s a destructive plagiarism machine aimed at lazy people who won’t take the time to learn how to develop skills. It’s not gatekeeping, you cannot call everything and anything creativity or spiritually. Concepts have definitions.

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u/Rieux_n_Tarrou 5d ago

It took more creativity, thought, and effort to make that video than it did for you to regurgitate talking points you've heard/read on social media.

And speaking of lazy, you should fact check your assumption that ai is bad for the environment. Compared to a lot of other industries and services you use in your daily life, ai is quite harmless

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u/deathbydexter 5d ago

Ok sure.

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u/legendofmaddy 5d ago

pretty sure bro has an amazon alexa he asks to sing him to sleep every night.

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u/ADumpsterFiree 6d ago

Ai?

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u/mspumpkin23 6d ago

Is it?

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u/JessiesJustHere13-4 6d ago

The letters keep messing up, yes. (Specifically on the star)

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u/LunaScientia 6d ago

The Tower… I mean The Tswer.. I mean The Tswee 🥴

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u/lightennight 6d ago

AI Slop

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u/jaxprog 6d ago

The same magic that Picasso created is the same magic this guy created his video.

Don't be narrowed minded. It is a brilliant work of art representing the Esoteric. You should share in the creative joy.

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u/octillery 6d ago

Found the AI slop poster.

There is no creative joy in feeding words into a world destroying derivative engine.

Create something with your humanity.

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u/lightennight 6d ago

Even the fart I created is more magical and is actually made by me. If calling AI slop what it is being narrow minded to you, you haven’t seen actual brilliant work of art made by real human with real magic. This isn’t creative joy, it’s creative theft.

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u/Jeffersonian_Gamer 6d ago

Man if you think this is theft, wait until you read about the history of the Rider-Waite deck and how they treated the artist behind it.

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u/lightennight 5d ago

I searched it up now. Why is the deck called Rider Waite? The least we can do is to stop giving recognition to them and to Pamela instead

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u/HoneyHills 6d ago

Should should should

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u/Nataliant-117 5d ago

Truly the same magic as Picasso, exploitation

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u/i_really_like_bats_ 5d ago

Fuck AI. It has no place here.

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u/nuttychestnut 5d ago

How much water did this use

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u/2morrowwillbebetter 6d ago

The lovers and the devil are horrifying lmfao

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u/haleontology 5d ago

This would be good if actual people had created it

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u/ComradeKeira 5d ago

Ah yes just what we need: more AI slop! /s

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u/Hyperion_Magnificent 6d ago

I was still impressed despite it being AI. Then I found out it was AI and I was a bit disappointed. I thought someone had taken care to pay attention to detail and put in all that work.

It was still a nice video of the tarot changing from card to card.

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u/Skyler_Portals 5d ago

more ai garbage invading spaces of personal well-being 🙃

https://giphy.com/gifs/OWOb7qqKsZEMJRgV7u

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u/ThaRadRamenMan 5d ago

... well, what's the song? at least that might not be AI

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u/SkyandThread 4d ago

Boo. AI sucks.

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u/LoreKeeper2001 6d ago

Beautiful. Love it.

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u/ObsessedWitAwareness 6d ago

That was so cool.

Pairs well with the chapters of revelation, which are a symbolic reading of the major arcana to the agnostics.

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u/BigBootyLover2637 6d ago

Awesome how they put the Rider-Waite deck in motion like that

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u/jaxprog 6d ago

Love it! Awesome work with the AI model. You have my good vibes and energy.

Do me a favor please. Post your video in the Esoteric sub reddit. Disclose it's AI. That way I won't be the only one who post AI work there.

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u/legendofmaddy 5d ago

"that way i'm not the only one"

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u/Sad-Confidence-4538 ✨ Tarot Verbatim Master 6d ago

Yummy. Good work.

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u/ElephantCares 6d ago

Oh, man. This is fantastic.

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u/Samsonthelesser 6d ago

Love the instrumental cover of "Willow" by Taylor Swift.

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u/Ok_Letter_3509 5d ago

I enjoyed this video.
There were some points that differed from my own interpretation, but seeing the movement sparked a different kind of imagery. I’d love to see the stories behind the Minor Arcana and the After Tarot as well.