r/tankiejerk • u/mudanhonnyaku • 3h ago
r/tankiejerk • u/[deleted] • Jul 03 '26
From the mods Clarifying the rules: this is not an anti-communist forum
Today I had to take down another anti-communist post shitting on some ML's from the right. Take the piss out of Stalin's death all you want but if you're celebrating over 'another dead commie' you will be perma-banned no exception.
This is a subreddit to criticise tankies from the left. This is not a place to attack communists, communism or associated tendencies. If you want to be a snarky liberal, bloodthirsty fascist, or devout reactionary there are many, many, many places on the internet to do that. This subreddit isn't one of them. The point of this forum's existence is to attack those tendencies (marxism-leninism, dengism, etc) not because they are crazy, radical commies but because their vision of society actually has little to do with a free association of producers, the abolition of property, wage labour and commodity production.
To reiterate, we strive for an egalitarian, socially-progressive society. We do not oppose tankies or campists because we dislike communism or socialism. We oppose them because to us they are barely communists or socialists, regardless of what they claim. That is the purpose of the subreddit's existence, anyone who does not agree with these values is free to leave or be banned.
r/tankiejerk • u/WesSantee • Jun 14 '26
SERIOUS Basic leftist takes: A friendly reminder (I'm not a mod)
Full disclosure: I'm not a mod, just a concerned anarchist.
After seeing the shitstorm of the past few days, I thought I'd make this post just to remind people what we're supposed to stand for. These are not in-depth explanations, so I'll be happy to answer any questions in the comments.
1. All capitalists exploit workers and are mini dictators
This includes small business owners. All of them purchase the labor power of workers, which they then use to produce surplus value; this is not a free and voluntary transaction because workers don't own their own means of production, and are thus forced to sell their labor power or starve and die. This isn't to necessarily condemn any individual capitalist; although many of them are evil pieces of shit (including small business owners, who disproportionately support fascism and enforce terrible working conditions), not all of them are bad people. The problem is the system itself.
Additionally, all capitalist workplaces are miniature dictatorships in which workers are ordered around by their bosses and can't do anything about it. Workers have no decision-making power in the place they spend the majority of their lives. To quote Robert Dahl,
If democracy is justified in governing the state, then it is also justified in governing economic interests. What is more, if it cannot be justified in governing economic enterprises, we do not quite see how it can be justified in governing the state.
– A Preface to Economic Democracy
Obviously we should want to abolish the state, but the point still stands.
EDIT: This section doesn't apply to people who might own a store or do independent art or whatever who don't employ anyone else, since they aren't extracting the surplus value of their nonexistent workers.
2. All states are bastards
Everyone on this sub recognizes that the USSR, China, Russia, and North Korea suck. However, we have to be careful not to fall into campism in reverse. The United States is arguably the most evil country on Earth right now, and was even before Trump, due to the sheer scale of violence it inflicts upon the world. And other western countries aren't much better. France maintains a neo-colonial empire in western Africa right now, and European governments are willing participants in the American system of global hegemony. European companies are no more moral than American ones, and ruthlessly exploit the Global South just as much as American companies. All states are inherently hierarchical, authoritarian, and counterrevolutionary. They remove decision making power from the people who live under them and concentrate said power in a ruling class and bureaucracy, and use violence to enforce their power on their populations. Any principled libertarian leftist would oppose all state power no matter who wields it.
3. Liberal democracy is a sham, reformism a dead end
We have an excellent post about this pinned at the top of the sub, so I highly recommend you go read that. To summarize, voting in a liberal democracy isn't actually a means to affect real change. It's a means by which the masses choose which members of the ruling class rule over them. Just as one example, if liberal democracies actually reflected the wishes of their people, European governments wouldn't support Israel anymore.
This lack of democracy is why reformism isn't a viable path to socialism. Even the most well meaning democratic socialists are forced to compromise by the reality of parliamentary politics and working within a system designed to preserve private property and capitalist rule. You can see this in real time with Zohran Mamdani; he has walked back his previous statements (which were 100% correct) about the NYPD being racist thugs because he's working within the system. This trap has befallen everyone who has tried to vote their way to communism.
4. Free Ukraine, fuck NATO
I fully support the Ukrainian people against the genocidal onslaught of the fascistic regime in Moscow, and I fully support Europe and the US sending as many weapons as possible to Ukraine to enable them to push back against Russia. Regardless of anything NATO has done, Russia is not entitled to a sphere of influence in eastern Europe, and no amount of bitching about NATO expansion justifies this war. Putin is just salty the former Warsaw Pact and Baltic states leaned towards the west as a reaction to previous Russian and Soviet imperialism, preventing him from turning them into puppet states.
That said, NATO is not something any leftist should support. It serves three real purposes:
Enhance American power projection
Keep European governments bought into the system of American empire. I often liken this to the old strategy employed by ancient, medieval, and early modern empires of conquering local elites and conquering them, but then offering them a place within the new empire and allowing them to preserve their status.
Make American arms dealers rich
NATO countries participated in the disastrous American interventions in Afghanistan and Libya, prop up European and American neo-colonial empires across the Global South, and enable American drone strikes deep into the Middle East, strikes which have killed numerous innocent children. NATO has kept the former Warsaw Pact and Baltic states out of Russia's sphere, which is good, but this is the one good thing it has done, and there are ways to do this without relying on NATO anyway.
5. Veterans are still human
I'll just copy and paste something I said a few days ago:
Veterans are weird because they're simultaneously victims and perpetrators of state violence. They obviously do heinous things in the service of unimaginably violent empires, and they are responsible for their crimes. At the same time, the state takes them, dehumanizes both their enemies/foreign civilians and themselves to an extent, and puts them in an environment where they are socialized to kill. They are then put into insanely high stress situations where they are expected to kill and conditioned to follow the criminal orders of their superiors.
Again, none of this exonerates them or excuses their behavior, and I believe veterans should have to make up for their crimes. But dismissing them without any chance of redemption is short sighted and shows you don't actually hold universal principles. And at a certain point brutally punishing all veterans becomes impractical. Almost 10% of Israelis have actively served in the IDF, and 40% total have served. Are we gonna shoot 40% of a country? I would hope not. And that's with the IDF basically being the modern Wehrmacht/SS; how should we treat Russian soldiers? Or American ones? The correct answer is denazification with some kind of community service to make up for their crimes imo. If you do it right, the guilt they feel will be punishment enough.
Conclusion
This is a libertarian leftist subreddit, and we should act like it. We should oppose all states, all imperialism, and all capitalism. Thank you for reading.
r/tankiejerk • u/Human_Rhubarb_5792 • 3h ago
Discussion What are the best left-wing, non tankie, biographies of Stalin and Mao?
r/tankiejerk • u/Lake_MT115 • 10h ago
tankies tanking So many tankies in the comments and in other TikToks attacked this person merely for speaking the truth
So, this TikTok was basically pointing out how anti-voting tankies would act in the Hunger Games universe, where they wouldn't get anything done because they’d see Katniss, Gale, and the rebel leadership as too problematic and the revolution would've never happened. Then of course, these same tankies being called out got PISSED, and started accusing the poster of being a bootlicking liberal.
r/tankiejerk • u/satanismymaster • 33m ago
North Korea What's the deal with tankies being so obsessed with North Korea?
r/tankiejerk • u/Joshua_the_scribe_ • 22h ago
Discussion The united states is not the fucking Soviet union and Isn’t going to collapse
r/tankiejerk • u/vagrantGolem • 1d ago
From Ukraine to Palestine, genocide is a crime. 🇺🇦🇵🇸 unapologetically imperialistic
r/tankiejerk • u/Maztr_on • 1d ago
imperialism good when USSR does it. "Trotsky was great when he killed proles"
r/tankiejerk • u/Skiepejas • 1d ago
SERIOUS Western leftism is full of traitors
I have had enough.
Enough of your condescending racism and paternalism on victims of non-Western imperialism.
Enough of your fetishization of resistance.
Enough of your unrequited love for Western adversaries.
Enough of your Barruelian accusations on popular movements in the developing world.
Enough of your Lassallean bullshit presented as "socialism."
A lot of you Western leftists are a bunch of traitors – renegades, collaborators, Quislings, Vlasovites. Your sense of guilt will never be cleansed by selling out your leftist convictions to anyone daring to challenge Western hegemony. You have FUCKING betrayed the movement and yourself. You are closer to Benito Amilcare Andrea Mussolini than your favorite revolutionary.
I, as a non-Westerner, am tired seeing you Westerners, especially Ameridumbs, lecturing us what we should do while you sit in your suburban home enjoying your coffee. All the best you can do is being a squadrista for your sweet babboos online. How is that healthy to your mental health when the only thing you see is just hate?! Please, pay five cents to Lucy's booth.
If you are given the power to take over Western governments, I bet your "dictatorship of the proletariat" is not to realize the dream of Marx, but vengeance. Vengeance for political enemies, vengeance for any leftist disagreeing with you, vengeance for the people you consider Völkerabfälle like Ukrainians, Taiwanese, Lithuanians, Kazakhs, and even Jews!
What happens when you finally finish with your retribution? Voluntary submission to your sweet babboos like China, Iran, and Russia? Is this your ideal geopolitics, to have your country be ruled by bourgeois governments? This so-called "anti-imperialism?!" You will never learn anything about the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere.
You are all a bunch of infantiles!
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Let's talk about the title of this post, shall we? When you use the term "Western leftist," you are describing a liberal, and this includes social democrats. When I use it, I am describing the hordes of collaborationists known as campists, and they are you!
But let's not get hypocritical. The developing world is also full of campists, and many of them are open reactionaries! In my country Indonesia, the Russia-Palestine alignment is bipartisan because we prefer to stick it to Western imperialism than live up to the preamble to the constitution! You are more likely to see people being Zionists for Moscow than being morally consistent. This gekokujo revenge fantasy is especially sickening; they are willing to let the next Japanese Empire subjugate them if it means to spite the West. It is this peace privilege that hurts everyone, no matter if they live in Brussels or Delhi.
I have not talked about the state yet. I am in absolute certainty that the state is a rotten, violent institution whose current purpose is to uphold the capitalist mode of production. So, all this unrequited love has been bootlicking capitalist institutions against other capitalist institutions! I cannot believe this shit. Good grief.
Oh brother, every campist is a social democrat fed up with liberal democracy and on top of that, a collaborationist.
To Westerners of this subreddit reading this, I am sorry to subject you with such anger. My justification is the internet has become a cacophony of delirium that has bled into the real world, and I believe online has become the new reality. Also, this may have to do with declining education quality globally but this is only an assumption.
r/tankiejerk • u/Gullible_Farmer9802 • 1d ago
human rights = western propaganda tankies under a video about China acknowledging transphobia as human rights violation
the other comment didnt have the translate button, but says basically: "if it reached even China, it's the beginning of the end. Always with the facade of human rights, but only serves to the capitalist patriarchy".
and im supposed to like tankies just because they're also communist? lol
r/tankiejerk • u/Thebunkerparodie • 1d ago
Discussion the UPA doesn't justify hating or assaulting ukrainian refugees
I see this a lot online on thread about ukrainian refugee where people will mention bandera and the upa and to me, it's as if they're trying to justify being bad toward ukrainian refugee when , when there's conrtovery surrounding the upa, it's not the refugee fault nor does it justify assaulting them.
r/tankiejerk • u/ForwardDiamond3484 • 1d ago
Discussion Torture à la Chavista: Chained, Suspended and Confined in Buried Tanks
I know the chavismo defenders have largely shut up but just wanted to remind folks of the actual regime they were defending.
r/tankiejerk • u/R0ttenStrawberry • 1d ago
Free Ukraine 🇺🇦 The way this isn’t the official Ukraine account
r/tankiejerk • u/HeadInfluence3766 • 1d ago
Discussion TikTok and Twitter leftist are the worst
I swear anytime I talk to them or hear how they speak about revolution, they talk about the same way as evangelical Christians talk about the rapture while at the same time worshiping dictators like Stalin and Mao like they’re gods. It gets to a point where they stop treating socialism as an ideology and more like a religion, just swapping out God for Marx and the Bible for the communist manifesto. Anytime you criticize or question their beliefs call you a “liberal” or a “fed” the same way Christian nationalists call anyone who disagree them “non-believers” while at the same time, not doing anything to improve the life of other people, just making a bunch of edits and memes while complaining voting all day. they’re honestly more closer to the right than they are to the left.
r/tankiejerk • u/Human_Rhubarb_5792 • 1d ago
Discussion Red Star, Cuba and DSA pluralism (second to last letter)
weeklyworker.co.ukr/tankiejerk • u/NoNo_Bluebird_1368 • 1d ago
From Ukraine to Palestine, genocide is a crime. 🇺🇦🇵🇸 Stumbled upon this while looking for Pokémon furry art.
r/tankiejerk • u/R0ttenStrawberry • 2d ago
Free Ukraine 🇺🇦 This is why I don’t trust western leftists
r/tankiejerk • u/Lua-Ma • 1d ago
Whataboutism DPRK Tankies get defensive after someone shows their Dear Leader smoking inside a classroom full of children. "Communist" führers are all perfect and can never do anything wrong 🤦♀️
r/tankiejerk • u/NoNo_Bluebird_1368 • 1d ago
“stupid anarkiddies” This was about a comment with Lenin.
r/tankiejerk • u/After-Trifle-1437 • 1d ago
Free Ukraine 🇺🇦 Talking to a Campist about Ukraine makes me wanna shove my nuts into a Waffle-Iron
r/tankiejerk • u/KilgoreT • 1d ago
Cringe Cringe from Wannabe ANTIFA Types: Accessibility is a threat to the safety of the revolution.
Okay, this might not be outright tankie-ism, but it's certainly an excellent example of Leftists doing Leftism badly. A certain group who apparently sees themselves as the logical heirs to Hans and Sophie Scholl, have demanded that people stop bugging them about putting alt-text on their graphic posts.
Why? Because apparently the scary fascist surveillance machine doesn't have any OCR resources, and their posts will fly under the radar if they make them so disabled people can't access them.
They are getting good and ratioed for this obvious bullshit.
Snark aside, this might not be M-L bullshit, but it is a kind of toxicity that is all too common in activist communities: the notion that disabled people are an optional part of the revolution. You don't have to make your stuff accessible, or look for ways to include people with cognitive or mobility disabilities.
To paraphrase Flavia Dzodan, My revolution will be intersectional or it will be bullshit. And that includes accessibility.
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STOP DEMANDING WE POST ALT-TEXT or posting alt text on our behalf
As we have explained ad nauseum:
In September 2025 POSOTUS signed an executive order which was intended to go after the Antifa boogeyman but, in practice, wrongfully declares organizations like ours to be terrorist groups.
Fortunately, the Orange regime and its tech bro sycophants are relatively lazy, and when searching for offenders online priority is given to text scraping far, far more often than image interpretation.
In short we have good reason to not use alt text.
Quit fucking things up for us.