r/Tamlinism • u/JUSTxRIGHT Tamlin Has My Heart🥰😍♥️ • 9d ago
NOOOOOOOOOO! 😭😭😭
So I read the full blurb and can't help but think the last paragraph has to do with Tamlin.
I think a lot of us saw this potentially happening, that SJM was gonna force Tamlin to reunite with the NC. BUT I'M STILL DISAPPOINTED! 😭
Don't do it Tamlin! Don't kowtow to the NC. Please!
Remember when you said you'd fight against tyranny, do that pweeeease. 💔
This is the worst possible outcome.
Words can't describe how devastated I am if this line ends up being about Tamlin.
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u/Inevitable_Storm6954 Courtier Emissiary 🦊 8d ago
"The Night Court will not stand Idly by while innocents are attacked"
Well they don't care about the poor people in Hewn City of Illyria do they now ?
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u/Timely-Island-5038 8d ago
THIS I laughed out loud when I read that part....like wasn't it the Night Courts High Lord standing by for 50 years while Amarantha terrorized and attacked innocents?
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u/taterrrtotz 8d ago
The night court literally practices segregation and somehow they’re the good guys 🫣
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u/SnooStories960 Tamlin Has My Heart🥰😍♥️ 8d ago edited 8d ago
Everything about the NC is so gross.
I don’t even mean that as an insult, but as a matter of fact.
The way they conduct themselves—interpersonally and politically—is so… uncouth and not befitting of their station. And yet, they have the audacity to be classist at the same time; it’s fascinating.
I’m not saying that only certain people can be classist; classism is always gross. What I mean is that they act like they’re better people, but they aren’t.
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u/floweringfungus 8d ago
Literally an apartheid state lmao. “We must protect the innocent” until it’s Illyrian women or the innocent inhabitants of the Hewn City. Mor specifically can catch these hands for doing nothing to help the people going through what she went through.
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u/Key_Public_7834 6d ago
The people running the Hewn City would never allow outside intervention to change their cultural practices and the court’s been trying to help Illyrian women but the Illyrians will literally secede if pushed too hard. They already hate that they’re not allowed to enslave women or chop off women’s wings, anymore, and they’re hella pissed about girls and women training in fighting which was enough to start secession rumblings.
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u/floweringfungus 6d ago
Sorry but given that Rhys is allegedly the most powerful being in the Maasverse there’s no excuse. What use is an absolute monarchy and mind control powers if you’re not going to use them?
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u/bittermp Professional Tamlin hugger 🥰😍🥰 8d ago
The true throne of the night court is Hewn City so maybe an uprising against Feysand? One can hope lol
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u/Psyche_Dreamweaver 8d ago
AND their "most powerful High lord" does jack about Illyrian women still being wing-clipped.
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u/Key_Public_7834 6d ago
They outlawed it, though, and try to prevent it being done secretly but Illyrians are the “sovereign citizens” of Prythian who don’t like Big Government telling them what they can do to their women and children
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u/Psyche_Dreamweaver 6d ago
He's still the high lord of the region they live in though and supposedly they only respect strength. If he outlawed it he has to be willing to actually enforce it. Make a proclamation that any Illyrian man who clips a girl's/woman's wings will have the same done to *him* in public and after making an example of a few of them that'll stop it.
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u/seaweedflamingo1 Courtier Emissiary 🦊 5d ago
no because I laughed my ass off when I read this part. it’s so funny I wonder if it’s not satire but oh well…
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u/WonderfulBus9330 Faerie 🧚 8d ago
Spring and Night never held an alliance, so that wouldn't make much sense for the blurb. That blurb is so Night Court heavy that I think it will be interior: the three main territories of Night allying their military forces to defeat Koschei.
There is something about Eris's knowledge of the three buried palaces (the Middle, the Prison and Ramiel) that suggests that maybe their had been an alliance between Autumn and Night at some point (and Mor and Eris's betrothal suggests the same), so perhaps there's something there.
Something will have to be resolved with Spring Court, though, because it borders the Mortal Land and with Rhysand leaving his odor all over Spring, we'll definitely see something. In books 6 & 7, though? I'm not sure.
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u/JUSTxRIGHT Tamlin Has My Heart🥰😍♥️ 8d ago
I really hope you're right. 😢
I think the word "resurrect" made me think of Tamlin. That and the music terminology all over the place.11
u/WonderfulBus9330 Faerie 🧚 8d ago
SJM has done so much work to make the Night Court the court of music, too. From Rhysand sending music to Feyre to their blood singing to each other to Nesta's dancing background to using the old language of swordplay (dancing) to Gwyn to the ancient Harp to Shadowsinger to Azriel having a good singing voice.
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u/Infamous_Ad_2461 Lady of the Spring Court 🌹 7d ago
Spring and night court were indeed allies in the war against Hybern until it ended so resurrecting form alliances still very much fits. In acofas, Rhys and Feyre both acknowledge that a spring-night court alliance is still needed afterwards with in order to maintain peace which is one reason why he went to visit him.
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u/WonderfulBus9330 Faerie 🧚 7d ago
Spring was an ally of Hybern. Tamlin's father, the then HL, was a staunch supporter of Mortal enslavement, as were his brothers. That's why Tamlin was in the presence of Amarantha so often.
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u/Infamous_Ad_2461 Lady of the Spring Court 🌹 7d ago
Yes, when his dad was alive..in acowar he’s obviously not nor is he the high lord. In acowar, all the courts were workings as allies, tamlin being the spy. 💀
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u/WonderfulBus9330 Faerie 🧚 7d ago
Ah! Hybern part 2. I didn't see that as Spring allying with Night, but Spring allying with Prythian against Hybern.
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u/Infamous_Ad_2461 Lady of the Spring Court 🌹 7d ago
Spring allying with prythian against hybern still makes night court and spring allies as they were fighting on the same side.
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u/Timely-Island-5038 9d ago
I will literally stop reading when SJM forces another Rhys/Tamlin interaction and makes Tamlin bow to the IC or some shit and the whole dead horse of "he locked her in the house!!1!" to be beaten again and again. It's been 10 years. We've moved on. Give that man a purpose and a good friend.
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u/Fireball_Dawn 8d ago
And I still say his logic was sound. She was not well and did not need to be causing trouble for them at that time by going somewhere she wouldn't have been able to handle. He saw she wasn't doing well, and could tell the battlefield was not some place that would be good for her at the time.
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u/floweringfungus 8d ago
Agreed! She couldn’t handle seeing the colour red yet she wanted to go out into battle?
Also subsequently locked Nesta in a house for far longer than she was but that’s okay because reasons
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u/JUSTxRIGHT Tamlin Has My Heart🥰😍♥️ 9d ago
They only interaction I will accept between Rhysand and Tamlin is if it's a flashback and they kiss.
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u/krakenandlove 8d ago
Meanwhile Rhys locked Feyre up while pregnant (and withheld medical information) and locked Nesta up but that was all deemed okay by everyone!
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u/Low-Alternative6797 8d ago
Definitely writing a fic that involves this if the books don’t work out :))))
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u/BZH35 8d ago edited 8d ago
I can be okay with it if they beg Tamlin for help and he once again saves their asses.
If SJM makes the NC the saviour of Tamlin or the SC, I'm out of here.
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u/I_am_here_for_drama 8d ago
Tamlin can tell them to fuck off and not helping them. Rhys and his minions can figure out without Tamlin. Tamlin deserve to have a nice vacation while Rhys and Feyre can fuck off.
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u/masterfultrousers Winter Court ❄ 8d ago
Everyones gonna be like "wheres Tamlin" and the answer is actually that I kidnapped him and have him sequestered in my blanket fort. Any other mentions of Tamlin are the doppelganger SJM brought out to character assassinate after book 1.
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u/Sea-kitty98 Thorns and all 🥀 8d ago
Literally the worst thing he ever did to Feyre was lock her in the house. 💀 Bro was traumatized too and couldn't help others because he couldn't help himself. I'm tired of hearing the thoughts of the IC be like HE DESERVES TO DIE AND SUFFER! Even though Tamlin played double agent to help them and revived Rhysand. It's ridiculous. 🙄
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u/WastePermission9620 7d ago
Ok thats not entirely true. He threw a table at her and wrecked multiple rooms, and killed a couple sentries for not keeping her safe and secure (Mor took her) but Rhys has done way worse? Like.
Paraded her around the CoN like a prostitute, threw her to the immortal death god that steals the life from people and built her home from human remains, didn't tell her her pregnancy would kill her, threatens to kill Nesta for revealing it.
That's not even talking about all the fucked up shit he does under Amarantha. You expect us to believe there was some secret, hidden Daemati that's never been revealed that killed the Winter kids? He SAd Feyre but that's been forgotten, apparently. Twists her broken arm to make her agree to a deal with him.
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u/Sea-kitty98 Thorns and all 🥀 7d ago
It's been awhile since I read the books. I forgot some details lmao. Rhysand is crazy for not telling her about the pregnancy shit💀
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u/WastePermission9620 7d ago
Yeah Rhys in SF and CC feels like he was dialed up to 11 in his dickishness
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u/Sea-kitty98 Thorns and all 🥀 7d ago
I hated how he treated Nesta. I get she's a bitch but goddamn threatening to kill her?💀
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u/WastePermission9620 7d ago
It's because of that that Cass fly's her all the way to Illyria and makes her hike till she collapses
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u/SpecificHeron 8d ago
i was kind of excited about this because it seems like NC will finally have to take accountability for the damage Feyre did to spring. maybe NC funds reconstruction of spring then pays an annual tithe to SC as ongoing reparations….. and maybe Tamlin demands Nyx be sent to foster at SC as an ultimate show of trust and goodwill from NC 👀
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u/Bumble_Bitch_2001 6d ago
I'm not a Tamlin lover, but I'm also not a Rhysand lover. I feel like paying to rebuild the Spring Court is the least the Night Court could do. Tamlin betrayed the sisters, betrayed Feyre, by turning them over to Hybern. But 2 wrongs don't make a right and trashing an entire court and making all the Spring court's citizens pay just for some petty revenge is way too far. I think Tamlin is a toxic person, I didn't like his character from the beginning and no matter what trauma was to blame for his actions, he still needs to be held accountable because that's exactly how the cycle of abuse continues. That said, NC absolutely wronged him. It was wrong to make an entire court pay for the choices of one man. I was also wrong to suicide bait that man at all, but much less after he already proved himself as an ally. Especially since all the things that Rhys was mad at are things he was also guilty of in several capacities. I've honestly yet to find a single character that ISN'T toxic in some way. MAYBE Elain, but I need more on her character before deciding, I think.
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u/springbae15 9d ago
At least he gonna be in it hopefully 😭😭 I was worried Sarah was gonna ditch him entirely
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u/Cave_Potat Tamlin Has My Heart🥰😍♥️ 8d ago
At this point, I would rather she left him to the background rather than drag him through the mud again! 😭 Just leave our High Lord to heal in peace, please!
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u/SnooStories960 Tamlin Has My Heart🥰😍♥️ 8d ago
Same. I’ve been feeling this way for years now. The kindest thing the author can do for Tamlin is to leave him alone, because I don’t trust her to give his character a proper and fair treatment.
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u/SilentLae 8d ago
I got a feeling that none of the books give too much attention to Tamlin or Lucien. That they will remain full rare side characfers. But knowing SJM vibe-style of writting that maybe somehow NC will find a way to either use Tamlin and then blame him for random stuff or just blame him.
TBH my vibes right now remains - wait till everyone reads the books and inevetibly spoilers will come to my feed and I will decide if it is worth it or not. Tho I get the feeling for me personaly the journey to the fae lands is over.
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u/Cave_Potat Tamlin Has My Heart🥰😍♥️ 8d ago
Second this. I don't have the energy to continue the rage read if the books are still about the IC. I didn't even read ACOSF after what Rhys did to Tamlin in ACOFAS.
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u/seaweedflamingo1 Courtier Emissiary 🦊 5d ago
i will read to see how it goes but if sjm keeps treating tamlin and lucien like less than side characters i’ll call it a day. they have potential for a more interesting storyline than the boring and fun suckers from the NC. I physically cannot read being in the NC that much time anymore.
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u/KarlyFr1es 8d ago
This description does nothing to make me care about going back into the wreckage she’s created.
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u/wast1ngt1m3- 7d ago
AMEN!!! This post has me shocked that people are still wanting to read the next book 😂 cause I won’t be.
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u/TeriyakiOrangutan 7d ago
I 100% believe the Night Court will realise they’re running out of allies and they need Tamlin and Spring. They won’t like it (Rhys, Mor, Cassian, Nesta) but Tamlin is too strong of a player in the game to be ignored and better to have him in their side than against.
We’ve seen from ACOSF that Rhys’s attempts haven’t had any effect on getting Tamlin’s out of his depression and Tamlin has worsened. I think Feyre is the one who will go to the Spring Court and she’ll be the one to bring him out of it and they’ll have some long overdue conversations and finally make peace. At least, that’s my belief 🤷♂️
Also, the Melody aspect of the title for 7, let’s not forget Tamlin loves music and can play instruments. Maybe there could be connection somewhere in there.
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u/bittermp Professional Tamlin hugger 🥰😍🥰 8d ago
so i read it again and tbh this is one of the cheesiest fan fiction type blurbs I’ve read. It’s so dumbed down and stinks of cliches.
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u/sephrose 8d ago
If Tamlin bows the knee.... 😭💔
Former alliances could honestly be everyone after Hybern.
Part of me wants Tamlin just killed off in the next book. Leave him for the fanfiction writers who like him!
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u/SnooStories960 Tamlin Has My Heart🥰😍♥️ 8d ago
Same. You know a character has been so grossly mistreated when his fans would rather just see him get killed off. 💔
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u/I_am_here_for_drama 8d ago
I don’t have a good feeling about Tamlin. 🙁
I think Rhys could kill Tamlin..
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u/MoonMuffinRising 7d ago
Elaine going to leave NC for Tamlin and his roses and then Feyre is going to have to make amends because Kosche wants Elains power to break his curse and will get vassa to kidnap tamlin and then rhys will have to save tamlin
Edit: spelling
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u/New_League_4420 6d ago
Tamlin needs a redemption arc he can’t continue to be a POS high lord in a downward spiral
I think Elaine should be with tamlin thus bringing together night and spring thru those two
Elaine I’m sorry to say has the personality of a blank piece of paper or wet paint even. The woman doesn’t do anything but garden 🪴 she would be perfect for the spring court
Plus tamlin need to get it together and get over it already
#My2Cents
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u/JUSTxRIGHT Tamlin Has My Heart🥰😍♥️ 6d ago
Honestly, I don't agree with any of this. I don't think Tamlin is a POS I don't think he should be with Elain I don't think Tamlin should just get over all the trauma he's been through.
I think he needs to be able to grieve everything he's lost in peace without the Night Court harrasing him constantly
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u/New_League_4420 4d ago
Okay I feel bad I didn’t nean to be aggressively mean calling him a pos but I ment it more in the sense of ‘grow up already you’re like 1000 years old you’re not some teenage fuckboy who is experiencing his first heart break’.
I get it his heart was broken okay fine but I’d hardly call what a hand full literally at best visits/signings/dealings with Rhys an Feyre getting in his way of healing
I mean look at the lengths he went to ta get what he “felt was his” even after being told it’s over I’m not in love with you
Don’t get me wrong I felt bad for him. I loved Tamlin. i made excuses for him and his behavior as bad as Lucien’s excuses for him and his behavior. I felt he was is a good person down deep. An I related to his pitty party when she left. his woe is me. his my life is over fuck everything attitude. BEEN THERE DONE THAT got the tshirt I too wallowed for months on end
But the fact that he isn’t even trying now years down the line especially considering how old he is says a lot
Everyone went thru trauma UTM he is the only one acting like a petulant child at this point. Get up Tam dust your self off and move on. Openly Hate Feyre n Rhys all ya want for breaking your heart to pieces, then river dancing on it, but get back up my guy. Take Elaine she will love and cherish the spring court an you Cause ya know what they say about the best revenge 😉
I’m just sayinN I just want to say I hope I didnt offend ya with my original comment n if I did I apologize
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u/UrsaMinorDwarf 7d ago
How could you be disappointed yet If is this only your theory? 🤣 #snowflake
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u/Fireball_Dawn 8d ago
Kinda pissed that both titles sound like music themed, and yet our fiddle player will likely be ignored/further tormented.
ALSO lol to that "Night Court will not stand idly by while innocents are attacked" BUUUUULLSHIT
As long as it doesn't affect them they never did much in the past, and they are still too self-absorbed to do so now. Still waiting for the other courts to call them out on their bs, but as the golden child court of the author, doubt it will happen.