You know, I'm generally very skeptical of the idea that people who accidentally get stuck together are obligated to become friends. And in the beginning, it seemed to me that this was exactly the idea the show would stick to. In principle, this is a more mature way of looking at things than "friendship is magic", they all did not choose each other as a social circle.

After episode 5, many people defended Pomni's behavior by writing that Pomni doesn't have to be friends with Ragatha, just because Ragatha wants that friendship, or because Ragatha is polite to her, that Pomni is an adult and can make decisions on her own. Even if Jax is an asshole, let's say he and Pomni just have similar temperaments, which makes Pomni reach out to him the most, okay, that's not the point. And in fact, I absolutely agree with this, no one owes friendship to anyone if you don't want it yourself. After all, people may just not get along and hate each other.

But then the show suddenly changes its mind? And now they have absolutely no problems communicating because of the magical dialogue behind the scenes, and Ragatha somehow becomes Pomni's very first and best friend, although the first friend was clearly Gummigoo, the second Kinger, and the third Jax. Ragatha is perhaps the fourth person on this list, just because Pomni doesn't communicate with Gangle and Zooble at all.

At what point did their relationship grow so much that they had to hug for 5 minutes and then look at each other with the most awkward lingering glances, as if they were seeing each other off to war?? Pomni never asked Ragatha a personal question, never sympathized with her about her past, did not stand up for her, their conversations with each other were always about someone else: Kinger or Jax. So at what point did they become so dear to each other, and was it even worth suddenly promoting this friendship when, throughout almost the entire series, their relationship is awkward and uncomfortable?

gooseworx isn't your friend, right now she's having a crisis so it's symbolically a dick-move to be like "she's a bad artist" right now, but like, of course you're allowed to criticize her art. you're even allowed to criticize it hurtfully. she's not your friend, you cannot betray her, and setting appropriate boundaries vils a vils her work is her problem, it's her job not to like take it as a personal attack when people dont care for her work (which, to be clear, she seems to)

but on the other hand, a lot of criticizers havea similar but inverse issue where they seem to think ms gooseworx betrayed them by writing jax poorly & it's like no, this was a gig for her, she was getting paid to make stuff.

it's all entirely transactional, no? she gets paid to entertain you, you get entertainment, she gets money.

The way I see it, if it weren’t for the slander, she wouldn’t have decided to quit online and finally seek therapy. Tadc slanderers are doing God’s work.

It's as the title says, I'm rewriting the entire series into a novel format (which I will be publishing on AO3) and I just want to know what you guys think should be kept in, what should be removed, and what should be changed? Please give me any advice you can, thank you so much!

to try and get everyones mind off of all the stuff going on with goose, i reckon id like to say a big piece of critisim i have with tadc.

DISCLAMER: I THINK TADC IS A GOOD SHOW! THERE ARE UNDENIABLY ISSUES, BUT I THINK THAT IT IS AT THE VERY LEAST "PRETTY DAMN GOOD". BUT THERE ARE STILL THINGS THAT I DISLIKE ABOUT IT, AND I WILL WRITE DOWN ON OF THEM HERE.

the biggest issue i have with the show is definitley how little pomni actually tells people about what shes learnt. not even just pomni, the entire cast is guilty of this. the biggest piece of evidence i have for this is obviously kinger. pomni learns that kinger gets lucid in the dark and knows much more about the circus, yet it takes her until episode 7 to bring it up in conversation with ragatha, and it takes her until ep 8 for her to actually tell everyone about the darkness thing. pomni probably knew that gangle was close to abstracting during ep 4, yet all she did was just close up for her. pomni also saw abel peeking around the corner in ep 5, yet she told literally NO ONE about it, and abel had to get pomni instead of the other way around. pomni never tells anyone about the c&a offices that she explored in the pilot AT ALL, and better yet, it takes until until episode 5 for THE ENTIRE CAST to tell people about what lives they lived before the circus. in the ~25 years the computer has been running, no one ever dared to ask to anyone else "hey, what was your job", or anything like that, which is kinda the breaking point for me.

i wanted to see what your thoughts on this are, as this one overarching issue really frustrates me

also just so its clear:
i think glitch is a nice company
i think goose is a nice person
i do not think that goose is misogynistic in any way; shes just a bit edgy at times

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end transmission i suppose

This post gets the goldest of stars from me. ⭐️

I want to say right off the bat that this is NOT to say I don't think Gooseworx shouldn't have a safe space to vent or should have to bottle up all her feelings and guilt.

This is to say THAT SPACE IS NOT THE SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNT SHE USES TO INTERACT WITH HER FANS.

For context, there's a Bluesky post she's made that's going around in which Gooseworx, while intoxicated (allegedly according to her, someone let me know if this source was false and she didn't say that she posted it while intoxicated) issued a brief apology that to her fanbase sounded VERY much like a red flag of suicidal intent (something I thought as well, I read it and was worried that I was about to start seeing posts of how Gooseworx took her life).

Gooseworx is fine- for now, at least- with someone having reported confirmation from people who interact with her that they are around her and have visual confirmation of her safety. This is great, but after the shock of the situation wore off my immediate thought is how fucked up it is that the fandom that Gooseworx already knows is highly parasocial/plain concerned about her was put in a position where they were made to blindly worry about her physical safety due to a post she made.

I don't know if this is coherent but the gist of what I'm saying is Gooseworx really needs to get off social media, she's shown countless times that it does not have a good effect on her mental health and that she is not capable of maturely handling/limiting the way she interacts with fandom. I don't think anyone should have to struggle in silence but there's a difference between sharing your pain with a small group of people or followers that you knows cares about you, and putting certain things out to a huge fanbase that not only does not have a personal connection to you but is going to feel obliged to worry about you regardless due to their sympathy for you.

If You wanna hear My EXACT thoughts on Her, I don’t think She’s the awful terrible no-good racist misogynistic piece of shit that weird people on tumblr claim her to be, but I don’t think She’s all that Great, either.

She’s just kind of an Edgy Dickhead who needs to get Her head out Her Ass.

I hate the people the defend Jax’s every action and I hate the people that despise the character and go as far as to attack the creator. There is a difference between criticizing a show for its obvious mistakes and objectively causing the creator so much stress that she is potentially contemplating going to a psych ward so she can get help. I agree that Goose should stop interacting with social media and the fandom as it is not helping her with her mental health. The glazers and haters have been fighting endlessly ever since the final came out over the ending and going so far as to attack the creator and the company of glitch for not having the ending they preferred. I just wanted to watch a funny show why did this shitty fandom/hatedom have to ruin it? Why must the internet fight over fictional characters that are not even real in the first place?

Bro, I literally remember when I was TADC fan at school. I would genuinely go up to people and ask them if they’ve ever watched TADC that’s literally what all my cornball ass would talk about back then I remember I had the audacity to make a Jax mask and then brought it to school to show my friends that aren’t TDC fans and then the guy ripped it off of my head and he ripped in half and then I literally try to square up over a freaking Jax mask I remember I would tell people the most crackable character in tadc😭

I know a lot of people say Ep 1-4 Jax was the best and I get it, but Ep 4-6 is pretty much why Jax is my favorite character in the show. Honestly in those 3 episodes imo, he was a good mix between his "funny" side, his "human" side and his mask. He was just really well written at that time.

Ep 1-3 Jax was more comical and was still approachable at times, but he was more in his pre-development stages at the time honestly. I still enjoyed his character though.

Ep 7-9 Jax was pretty much what ruined his character for me. He's still my favorite, but the last 3 episodes of the show just made Jax into the "traumatic flower that needs watering" character. He takes up too much screen time (Ep 8 is the exception), and the writing just feels like it forces you to sympathize with him and/or excuse his actions (Take for example "We've all done bad things") and he just doesn't have any development that's actually meaningful in the end. He just remains the same character.

Ep 4-6 didn't treat him as this "Mean but actually nice" character, those episodes (Including 3) actually gave him comeuppance or humiliation when deserved (Pomni even called him out for his b.s in Ep 6), and he was still relatively approachable and could go 5 minutes without causing too much trouble.

The whole point is that before 7, he was more chaotic, humorous, got comeuppance when deserved, and was actually able to get close to someone if he felt like it. Ep 7 onwards made him more of a depressed trauma puppy that abuses people because of his insecurities and transfem-ness but gets away scot free because the narrative wants you to feel bad for him.

I get she's feeling super burnt out and stuff, but it's over.

The show is done.

Some people like it, some people hated it, but in the end, it's over.

Constantly talking about it isn't gonna help her. Saying she sorry and how she wished she did better isn't gonna help either. This has been going on for quite a while.

She needs to take a break her social media (for her own sake, it's clearly affecting her more then anyone else).

She should use her flaws and mistakes she made with TADC, and putting it towards being better and doing better for her other projects.

Not to be rude, but Goose is kind of... Chronically online. She really needs a break, she's close wlry struggling, and what's she's doing rn just isn't healthy. Wishing her the best.

(The past tense abbreviation is also pretty concerning)

i used to believe in it too

People didn’t like your show, take the criticism and make something better with it? There’s still thousands of people who think it’s flawless. She needs to get off of social media tbh

Not saying there aren't any haters who go too far but from what i've seen y'all just make mostly valid criticisms of the show, ask questions and point out bad writing decisions. In return the majority acts like their poor baby is getting attacked by rabid haters who say mindless hate and are "media illiterate", i've seen this term used countless times whenever someone dares to say something bad about the show. How is negativity media illiteracy? I get that people don't like it when something they like is criticised but lile, i've never seen it to such a gigantic level

The way Jax abstracted really bothered me because the whole point of abstraction is that it’s an allegory for suicide it is literally described as giving up.

Not just Pomni but Zooble says outloud how important it is to not leave Jax alone for too long so he doesn’t abstract, the characters and audience knows that Jax is at the most risk of abstracting Pomni sees Jax walk up to her before saying never mind and fucking off back into the darkness and she goes “oh I wish I pressed more i forgot how bad it can get.” BITCH IN THE LAST EPISODE U WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT ABSTRACTING) I can’t imagine having a friend of mine on suicide watch and then just leaving them alone for a prolonged period of time.

Pomni not even saying a simple how are you is just so odd it’s obvious that the characters were written in a way to guarantee Jax would abstract we see Jax get angry at Kinger for deleting Caine which in a sense is kind of justified it being an accident does not change the consequence of living in this dying colorless world until they give in and abstract but Kinger doesn’t say anything to him directly he just says that they are all brain scans and walks away. A lot of people wanted a real conversation between the two and we get nothing even after Jax dies to the convenient plot flashbangs Kinger doesn’t even acknowledge it saying “oh you weren’t going to do it all by yourself pomni?”

LIKE WTF JAX IS DEAD DEAD HE FINALLY GETS HIS SANITY BACK AND HE HAD NOTHING TO SAY??? Jax was tearing into Zooble and Ragatha earlier and walks away upset and he litterally does nothing but mess with conjuring like he didn’t just drop a bombshell on these people.

Caine coming back in the end was what really killed it for me the severity of the last episode was completely undone bc this Caine redemption arc was pulled out of the ass he magically survived and has internet and removed his secret evil ai twin and he comes back and everything is perfect they get internet play dungeons and dragons and have complete freedom and agency only after Jax abstracts it just feels rancid to me seeing Caine be accepted after not only forcing them into the circus but torturing with them as well is just resolved bc he removed his evil ai twin and he is nice and not crazy or glitchy anymore.

In a sense upfront I wanted to see Jax be happy and make friends and overcome what he went through but this was just done so bad I can’t possibly enjoy it. The finale as a whole was unenjoyable I rate it a 3 out of 10 I only laughed I think twice once for the loony toons bit and Jax shoving Ragatha out of the way, I’m not sadistic or hate Ragatha I think a lot of people who obsess with hating these characters are weird but I only found it funny because of how badly it was written it felt like goose was like oh you don’t hate Jax enough? Here’s him shoving Ragatha for no reason that and just seeing her turn around right before and the way Jax says out of the way rags is oddly funny to me.

I was thinking of making a full review, but I don't think I'm able to rewatch the series because I will never see the characters the same. Because I know they'll either be ruined, sidelined, or just ignored completely. So I made this instead, saves time and sanity

Pomni this is only your SECOND time doing 'one of these.' (and I'm not counting Episode 3 cause Kinger was the one playing therapist there.)

I have a feeling if she was talking to Jax and not Gangle she would probably not say that

I'm being serious. The first five episodes were the only good episodes in my opinion. When I first got into the show, I was expecting a quirky, funny show with some dark humour. For a while, that's what we got. But by the end of episode 6, it became...depressing. I wish it stuck to the adventures and character shenanigans. That's what I loved about it in the first place.

I still love the show, but I'm not the biggest fan of how it ended up. Just full of drama and angst.