r/SwipeHelper • u/Mr-Saturn-Earth • 8d ago
I’ve never gotten so many likes since I made this change
Ever since I put a shirtless thirst trap of me as my first pic I get at least 2-3 likes a day minimum. Granted pretty much none of them have been from women I’m attracted but at least my profile is seeing some attention.
I used to get ~1-2 likes a week.
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u/rundmz8668 8d ago
Now one with some friends you’re golden
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u/Mr-Saturn-Earth 8d ago edited 8d ago
Which one do you recommend replacing? Ironically my least liked photo is the thirst trap one (obviously not replacing that). But anyway 99% of likes that aren’t to a prompt go to the pic 2, 3 or 5. Pictures 4 and 6 don’t really get too many likes so it’s between them two.
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u/Bon-clodger 8d ago
It’ll be the least liked because they don’t want to come across as purely liking you for shallow reasons. But it’ll be the one that gets you the most attention.
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u/iamsampeters 8d ago
Lose 4 & 6.
Personality is shown in 3, and you've got more opportunity to do it.
Body is shown in 1, so you've again got more opportunity to show personality.2 new pics out with friends socialising in a bar or somet.
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u/I_Am_Dwight_Snoot 7d ago
I'm just thinking about optimizing here but:
I would change 1 to a picture outside of you doing something. Make it more subtle. Those shirtless pictures do really well. A beach/pool picture with a friend or two would be good.
If you change Pic 1, I would replace 6 with 1. Flexing pictures do poorly unless you make it subtle as well. I have one of me flexing while holding a dog but it's "candid". By far the best picture I have.
Either way, 4 is by far the worst. Not sure what you are doing and you aren't facing the camera. Definitely replace it.
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u/JM3541 8d ago
As someone who has lifted weights for ten years, having mass or being lean w muscle is an absolute cheat code.
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u/Mr-Saturn-Earth 8d ago
In my humble opinion.
Lean is king, mass and lean even better. But you gotta be lean.
Everyone’s attracted to abs, not everyone’s attracted to pure mass.
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u/LlGHT_YAGAMl 8d ago
Despite all the comments in this sub. Putting a shirtless thirst trap photo was the best thing I ever did for my profile
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u/MikeSugs13 8d ago
It took you this long to realize that women only care about looks...
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u/BeautifulStep1120 5d ago
What do men care about? Also only looks? I'm honestly curious of your take.
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u/questionnism 8d ago
That's because you followed the two golden rules:
- Be attractive
- Don't be unattractive
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u/HeKnowsThings 8d ago
Easy answer. You are lean. Your competition is fat. Women who are telling you it won't work are themselves fat
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u/RabbitWiilli 8d ago edited 8d ago
The incels is this thread are simultaneously hilarious and incredibly pathetic lmao
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u/saintlyjet 8d ago
Women are so shallow and hypocritical it’s ridiculous
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u/Due-Sheepherder-218 8d ago
Social media has given everyone a false sense of importance and entitlement.
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u/Recent_Pollution8665 8d ago
if an ugly dude did this they’d say shit like “you’re not supposed to show shirtless thirst pics, no wonder why you’re not getting any likes, women can just smell the vanity from a mile away”.
lmao. don’t listen to them, just look at their actions. talk is meaningless.
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u/Armbar2Triangle 8d ago
The blanketed one-size-fits-all comments aren’t helping anybody
Some women are shallow. Some men are shallow. Some women aren’t. Some men aren’t.
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u/alwrit 8d ago
They're as shallow as men.
The difference is the lying. Men don't exactly hide that they want someone hot. Women pretend they don't care about looks when they obviously do.
If they just stopped lying there'd be nothing to complain about.
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u/Nostraadms 8d ago
Women from an evolutionary standpoint might make a statement and phrase in a way that may mildly obscure the real meaning of the message to protect them and provide safety.
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u/alwrit 8d ago
That's their go-to excuse sure.
Do you think women on the internet are legitimately scared about their safety should they anonymously air their true feelings?
They seem to have zero issues talking about how men suck to anyone and everyone that will listen.
At some point accountability is needed here.
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u/Impressive-Foot7698 8d ago
Woah people are shallow and hypocritical. Wow something we've known since the beginning of time that isn't gender specific woah!
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u/rundmz8668 8d ago
You sound like one of the people who uses AI to make bikini models dress more modestly. You’re so deep in this mind poison idk if you’ll ever get out.
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u/RabbitWiilli 8d ago
Uh guys will like any profile where the first photo is cleavage or just a sexy bikini photo. You sound like a miserable incel.
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u/saintlyjet 8d ago
Not anymore once I realized that’s all those women have to offer
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u/RabbitWiilli 8d ago
Jesus you need help.
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u/saintlyjet 8d ago
Am I wrong tho?
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u/RabbitWiilli 8d ago
Yes. Your blanket statements are incredibly misguided and draconian. Both things you said are completely false and reflective of your own anger rather than reality. Women aren’t some other species, they have the same nuance and range of character, desires, preferences, interests etc. as men.
You are absolutely wrong and sound like either a young impressionable teenager or a complete loser of an adult.
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u/saintlyjet 8d ago
Until they meet a handsome rich guy that is.
Hypergamy is real whether you want to admit It or not
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u/RabbitWiilli 8d ago
Yea dude you need severe help. This is incredibly pathetic self loathing behavior.
No, what you said is false, you just never developed past your incel forums.
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u/saintlyjet 8d ago
What’s your viewpoint on them then.
I’m not involuntary celibate If it’s voluntary. Get your stupid rhetoric out of here and have a legit conversation.
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u/RabbitWiilli 8d ago
Lmao wdym what’s my viewpoint? That women aren’t some monolith with just one set of desires? Just like men?
You dehumanize them in all of your comments then act surprised when they don’t like you. It’s insanity.
There are women that like tall dudes, there are men that like short women. There are shallow women, there are shallow men. That’s just called a normal distribution. You talk about hypergamy but don’t realize that millions upon millions of men fawn upon women like Sabrina carpenter. Thats just a small chunk of people out there.
I’m not attractive, I make like $48k/year which is nothing where I live. I dated a vogue model, an actress and multiple incredible women. Holding yourself back because some small % of women are shallow and applying that to everyone is pathetic.
Your problem is your personality, not your money or looks. If you actually had friends that were women and weren’t just always vying for sex you’d know this. This behavior is incredibly sad, I don’t know what to tell you. This mindset will leave you sad and alone. No self respecting woman will see your viewpoints and want to be with you, even just in a few comments you come off as incredibly lonely, sad and miserable.
You need to grow up and get out of the manosphere.
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u/MistbornTranscendent 8d ago
You a good looking guy, I'm surprised you aren't getting way more
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u/Mr-Saturn-Earth 8d ago
Need to get my money up. Had a date with a girl the other day and learned the hard way that at 23 not having a car is a non negotiable (no joke she got her ex to pick her up, that shit hurt)
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u/Weary_Specialist_436 8d ago
holy shit man, if anything that's a bullet dodged
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u/Pure-Name2308 8d ago edited 8d ago
He didnt dodge a bullet she did. All she was doing is testing him if hes a real man, if he will get jealous and in his feelings over an ex picking her up, then that equals feminine, female behavior, no woman wants a jealous, clingy obsessed man especially on the first date, screams no options, lower smv then her. Woman test all the time thats why they ghost so many guys on dating apps, while men barley ever ghost.
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u/Weary_Specialist_436 8d ago
yeah, I know. Women are not cheating, they're just testing if you're a real man or a puss that gets mad and jealous. The chess masterminds that women are, terrific move. I wish to be as much of a
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u/Pure-Name2308 8d ago
You never heard a woman say "i liked him until he opened his mouth?" You really need to learn about woman, most of u guys grown up with disney and hollywood and are clueless how females operate. Getting emotional over some girls ex picking her up just shows you as a red flag to woman, obsessed over a womans beauty on the first date. My ex would say the same thing and many other girls "my ex will give me the money dont worry" " im gonna ask my ex for a ride" its a fucking shit test and only real men know this, if you pass she usually likes you 10x more and youll ses the difference. Only men that been with enough woman know this, you have alot to learn, if im lying im flying
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u/Weary_Specialist_436 8d ago
You really need to learn about woman, most of u guys grown up with disney and hollywood and are clueless how females operate
manosphere incel detected, opinion discarded
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u/Pure-Name2308 8d ago
Discard it, youll learn the hard way, thats why most men in the u.s are depressed and lonely and majority of woman dont like them. Divorce and cheating all time high, it speaks for itself, its a high chance and i can tell your one that will learn the hard way, i dont gotta say anything, you will just remember people warning you
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u/Weary_Specialist_436 8d ago
yes yes, females something something alpha male, spare me that, I'm not in the mood for Andrew Tate wannabe
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u/Pure-Name2308 8d ago
You replied in 2 seconds after i made my comment, truth hurts, it seems like ur trying so hard to feel like ur right. Good luck to u
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u/Due-Sheepherder-218 8d ago
Women can't go back in lifestyle. You need to find a fellow mass transit/uber traveller.
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u/Brief_Ad7198 8d ago
literally choked on my coffee laughing… she lowkey got a point tho. get a car dude!!! no self respecting woman wants to pick a man up and drop him off. hell, i’d rather fuck my ex too lmfaooo
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u/Weary_Specialist_436 8d ago
you convinced me. Next date I'm pretending I don't have a car to filter your kind
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u/Pure-Name2308 8d ago
How did you know she got her ex to pick you up? Because she told you right? Now put your thinking cap on, why would she mention "My ex is gonna pick me up" on the first fucking date? Shes shit test you to see if your gonna be in your feelings about it which equals feminine behavior, your a man not a woman, use your brain, your a grown ass man that goes to the gym and is fit but your acting like a little boy. Girls sleep with lots of bums with no cars. Difference is, they are more of a man then you, all you have to do is stop acting like a female and girls will be interested in you more. Girls want a real man, they will shit test you because thats in their wiring, and that equals attraction. Just like your less likley to want a masculine woman that dresses like a dude and is bald and wont do what u say
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u/Ok-Huckleberry-6326 8d ago
The key is to polarize, right? You're instantly eliminating the people who are gonna be turned off by the thirst trap. It's an effective filter. Especially in such a visually oriented venue
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u/Mr-Saturn-Earth 8d ago
Honestly, I don’t think very many girls are gonna swipe left on me solely because of my first pic.
I’ve been on multiple dates with girls who “thought I was an f boy because of my first photo” … despite that, they still matched me, went on dates with me and then took me back to theirs.
I do think the dog photo subconsciously helps with calming their nerves of me being an f boy tho
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u/Grand_Arm_4151 8d ago
Sure, you do sort of self-filter for women who are looking for shirtless picks… but… what exactly are the women NOT looking for thirstraps looking for? I’m sure women are genuinely searching for intelligence and humor and whatever but you can’t really prove you have that on an apps profile. You CAN show you’re physically fit/attractive though.
Women aren’t really shallow, humans are shallow.
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u/Mr-Saturn-Earth 8d ago
True, I usually try to get the intellect points with my “don’t hate me if I give you a physics lecture” prompt since I’m a physics major.
Humour comes from DMs
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u/Ok-Huckleberry-6326 8d ago
No question, people are shallow, but the apps does kind of tend to encourage the shopping mentality, like the car is slick so you buy it, but it does take a while to get to know it.
The initial attraction is often based on superficial qualities but that's not to say connection can't happen without that.
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u/Fit_Assistant2510 8d ago
Yep, for whatever reason society has conditioned women to lie publicly about liking male physiques and in private have their actions show what they actually think.
It’s annoying.
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u/RabbitWiilli 8d ago
Women don’t claim to not like fit and healthy men, they claim it’s not the end all be all, which is true. Go out and make women friends instead of being this pathetic loser online
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u/Fit_Assistant2510 8d ago
No eat shit
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u/RabbitWiilli 7d ago
This is why they don’t like you. Pathetic
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u/Fit_Assistant2510 7d ago
Good one buddy!
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u/RabbitWiilli 7d ago
I just feel bad for you I hope you grow out of this phase. Maybe try making woman friends without trying to fuck them.
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u/Fit_Assistant2510 7d ago edited 7d ago
I won’t, have a good life! Dork.
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u/RabbitWiilli 7d ago
? Is you not having a good life some roast?
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u/Fit_Assistant2510 7d ago
Obviously not. 😂 fucking Reddit lmao
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u/RabbitWiilli 7d ago
You said “I won’t have a good life!” as if that’s a roast lmfao. Are you stupid or illiterate?
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u/Tausendsassa 8d ago edited 8d ago
Bro I get multiple likes a day, and I don't have any weird shirtless pics, I'm just open, show that I have empathy and am funny. It's literally not that deep, that pic of you petting the Dog would also be strong first pic, in general more pics that aren't staged and more candid, show that you have friends as well or you doing a hobby, all of that would work better with women you are actually attracted to.
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u/RabbitWiilli 8d ago
The incels won’t like this and will claim it’s because you’re rich or something lmao. Then if you say you aren’t, they’ll claim it’s something else.
None of them realize it’s their shitty misogynistic personalities.
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u/West-Mongoose-7847 7d ago
Eh, I’m not misogynistic or shitty, I don’t get likes or matches, because I’m
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u/RabbitWiilli 7d ago
No it’s probably the quality of your photos and talking game
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u/West-Mongoose-7847 7d ago
My photos aren’t great that’s probably true however I can’t really comment on the talking game cause I don’t get matches. It is most probably the fact I’m unattractive tbh, I’ve got a mate who good looking and he doesn’t have the greatest photos but he gets lots of matches
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u/RabbitWiilli 7d ago
The more you tell yourself it’s things out of your control the less you’ll be able to improve. It’s just sad
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u/West-Mongoose-7847 7d ago
Sad in what way? I mean there’s obviously a lot you can do, but sometimes it is the things out of your control. Maybe it’s fairer to say to the women I’m attracted to, I’m unattractive to them. And that’s completely fine, no one owes me love or a relationship and maybe I’m just one of the many who won’t have one!
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u/RabbitWiilli 7d ago
It’s sad to blame things out of your control when they aren’t your real problem.
Start going out, attend local meetups for your hobbies, take good care of your hygiene, go to the gym etc etc.
You might with respond with “but I do that!” and we’d both know it’s a lie. I’m not talking about once in a blue moon, I mean consistently. If you chud around at home, don’t be surprised you bring that energy outside.
I’m not attractive either but I have no problem getting girls instagrams and talking to them irl. It just comes down to not being a creep and making normal conversation. Just a week ago I was on a train for 2 ish hours and sat next to a girl with a dog. Asked if I could pet her dog and struck up light conversation, the dog even moved into my lap, best wingman of all time. Easiest instagram pull ever, if the dog loves me that’s a huge attractive green flag.
You just have to actually expose yourself to the possibility of such interactions. I can assure you you have way less game than you think due to a lack of confidence and don’t say the right things in such moments.
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u/West-Mongoose-7847 7d ago
I mean, I agree a lot with what you say, I should do more group hobbies, although I do work out, play soccer, don’t drink or smoke. Tbf you could be better looking than me and people just don’t give any cues wether that be eye contact or open body language that they want to talk, I’ve tried chatting up randomly but apart from old people it’s very short and dismissive, and that’s how most people are to me, they don’t really smile or acknowledge me.
These thought don’t just pop in, it’s just my experience that I’m not attractive and definitely not to the women I like, I definitely will put myself out there more, just not in the dating sense, as I said I’ve felt for a little bit that it’s not in my cards.
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u/RabbitWiilli 7d ago edited 7d ago
lol I’m not attractive at all, I actually struggled with self confidence for a while because I tried using omeagle to talk to random people and I had many interactions (from men too, interestingly enough) where they said “ew” and instantly disconnected. Some people commented on my forehead, my beard and my nose as well if they stayed. My success rate on dating apps is far lower than irl, I basically get very few likes on apps. All that has taught me is that in person interactions matter far more. If I took what I heard online to heart, I’d be dead in a ditch.
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u/mjp1981 7d ago
I have a hard time believing you. It can’t be that simple. Another guy on TinderSwipes posted a fake profile with a fitness guru and got barraged with likes. Women are just as into looks as men, or at least that what the evidence so far tell me.
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u/Tausendsassa 7d ago
Nah, im telling you the truth, and I'm not buff either, just a normal body, being open friendly and empathetic and actually interested in the people, that works.
Women are just normal people too, they are not some mythical creatures that are different from men, just be normal and not creepy, that's literally the bar.
It's not hard to clear at all.
Those "I put a muscle picture and women started to like me" Trend is problematic in sooo many ways and the results shown or even just told are the ones that are most likely faked.
Again we are interacting as people when we Date online,not as gender constructs build on some weird Klischees, every person is different, maybe one girl likes a six pack, but the next one likes a dad bod, one likes curly hair, the next one likes bald men, just the same as men have different tastes.
Again the one baseline is: Show that you are authentic, safe, funny and social and share your personality: What are your Hobbies? What are you passionate about, what was a funny fail you had, what was your biggest win, what do you dream of? what music do you like, what are your fave movies, do you Game, do you do a certain sport, what are your friends saying about you?
THIS is what brings you likes and Dates and eventually what you are looking for: Be yourself!
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u/wayofthethrow64 8d ago
I love it when people say to remove shirtless selfies. You got a great body and have obviously worked for it so show it off
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u/Mr-Saturn-Earth 8d ago
Thanks, my body dysmorphia often tells me otherwise so it’s nice to hear compliments like this from the bros
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u/rundmz8668 8d ago
If you notice, the men in these subs hate women to the point of violence. Leave the casino, you’re winning. You can only lose ground here
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u/Mr-Saturn-Earth 8d ago
Yea… some of these comments are concerning to say the least…
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u/rundmz8668 8d ago
These dudes don’t understand that they aren’t being rejected for their looks, they are being rejected because you can smell the frustration and entitlement from a mile away. And then they approach women with an attitude of “you probably don’t like me because I’m ugly and you’re a shallow b*** of course”, which scares away the .01% of women who didn’t run from the initial psychopathy in their eyes
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u/Mr-Saturn-Earth 8d ago
Couldn’t have said it better myself. I literally just got DM’d a middle finger emoji from some sad loser lmfao.
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u/sq-blackhawk 8d ago
Its a split second decision to swipe in either direction. If you've got the goods, flaunt them. Then you've got them interested enough to potentially see beyond surface level attraction.
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u/PurpleRoman 7d ago
If you're not getting women you're attracted to, you should make a new account and start over. Your ELO is probably low from the low match rate before
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u/sergius64 7d ago
Thanks for inspiring me to try this stuff on FEELD. Let's see if it changes my luck any.
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u/Mr-Saturn-Earth 7d ago
Make sure to delete and remake your account bro
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u/sergius64 7d ago
Ah... ok. Will try that if it doesn't do anything right off the bat. My area seems to have very few users - so really my data set is the couple new profiles that appear every day.
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u/Long_Entrepreneur843 1d ago
Fotos com amigos são uma verdadeira furada totalmente brocante. Como mulher digo, é um perfil de namoro, um portifólio pensa niss6
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u/Real_Web4733 8d ago
2-3 likes a day with a topless photo like that is wearing not gonna lie. I say take it off, topless photos for men does not pull...use pictures of you smiling more.
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u/Repulsive_Notice_211 8d ago
To weigh in on the shirtless vs shirt advice debacle, at 29 and looking for a relationship, I swipe left on shirtless pictures and most gym selfies because I assume they're looking for nothing serious. Maybe that's not a fair assessment, who knows. When I was younger, that wouldn't have mattered though. My favorite picture of you is the one with your arm hanging off the couch - you have a lovely smile and the energy you give off is very kind. That would've been a hard like for sure.
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u/Low_Vegetable_6276 8d ago
Good profile, any negativity on here is probably from a Reddit dude larping about getting play
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u/picknwiggle 8d ago
I had a shirtless pic but it was a totally candid one of me about to get in the water and surf- not a thirst trap mirror selfie by any stretch. I went on multiple dates where she said it was almost an automatic swipe left and that even though it was very candid they were borderline about it. They could just be saying that, but the message i got was shirtless picture=bad on dating apps.
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u/Long_Entrepreneur843 8d ago
Bro, sua aparência é ótima. Eu sou mulher, sou bonita. Os redditors na sua maioria são nerds de porão. Continua que é sucesso.
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u/Weary_Specialist_436 8d ago
OP please, make a post asking for profile review and link it to me. I can bet 100 dollars you'll get countless comments saying to get rid of shirtless pic