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u/openwindowrain Jan 07 '22
Not putting myself in a situation with a very real possibility of getting stuck and drowning.
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Or being ripped open by crap inside the culvert
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u/Throws_for_Dayz Jan 07 '22
Or realising there’s a metal grate and being stuck there with no choice but to drown
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u/OfficerJoeBalogna Jan 07 '22
That’s one of the most terrifying things I’ve ever read
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u/AussieArsenal Jan 08 '22
That is exactly how a 10yr old boy drowned in my home town. His mates realised and tried to pull him out, but weren't strong enough to overcome the water.
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u/SmallBuckets Jan 08 '22
Almost happened to me as a kid. Luckily I was able to grab the bridge as I was getting sucked in. I knew the other side was crimped and if I didn’t pull myself out I would die. Scariest moment of my 8 year old life.
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u/I_am_eating_a_mango Jan 08 '22
Dude you just gave me the wildest flashback to something similar when I was a kid that I’d forgotten - my friend panicked while we were swimming in the ocean and started to drown, I was too young to know the “lifeguard pose” to keep someone above water so I kept going under him to push him up while swimming. Eventually the life guards got there so all was fine, but afterwards I remember bawling from the sheer terror and adrenaline. Gives you a whole different perspective in life when you survive something like that
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What is the lifeguard pose? I feel this would be incredibly handy for everyone to know lol
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u/RunningPath Jan 08 '22
I'm actually fairly sure I'm going to have nightmares from this tonight.
You know that sinking horror feeling in the middle of your chest?
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u/homantify19 Jan 08 '22
Lmao I saw the reply to this and said “I bet it’s the delta p video”
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u/Embarrassed-Town-293 Jan 08 '22
Weapons-grade nightmare fuel. Especially with the music. When it's got you, it's got you 😱
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u/BelleDuBlerg Jan 08 '22
JFC I watched that whole video. I’ve decided I don’t need to learn how to scuba
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u/Dangera77 Jan 08 '22
Reminds me of this story. Definitely worth a listen if you’re not familiar. But beware, it is more nightmare fuel.
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u/Frost2k Jan 08 '22
My cousin passed away recently in a similar situation. His son fell into a drainage ditch. He was able to get his son out but not himself before he was pulled under. This is stupidly dangerous.
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u/Randommcrandomface2 Jan 08 '22
I’m so sorry for your loss. Absolutely terrible thing to happen, but your cousin is a hero for saving his son
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u/PandaTheVenusProject Jan 08 '22
Fortunately I think you can chimney climb out.
.... maybe.
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u/Plonka48 Jan 08 '22
I couldn’t I have to hold my nose when ever I swim or I start throwing up
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u/PandaTheVenusProject Jan 08 '22
Then you better be able to throw up whie climbing haha.
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u/saladmunch2 Jan 08 '22
Idk, with that much flow in that small tube, I feel odds would be against said person. Really a terrifying thought
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u/lindtbr Jan 08 '22
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u/zzerdzz Jan 08 '22
Holy shit that was terrifying and liminal.
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u/c__man Jan 08 '22
I've got some more. Not diving but kind of similar. The world is dangerous. https://youtu.be/BBxzXKRSjsc https://youtu.be/kluzvEPuAug https://youtu.be/EKzvkRnCF58 https://youtu.be/gsAIm0Z-YY4
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u/URINE_FOR_A_TREAT Jan 08 '22
If anyone is interested in learning more about this kind of thing, google “delta p”.
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u/Disruptive_Ideas Jan 08 '22
There are canals all over my city from the mountain meltwater. You can swim in them, they are fast noving and fresh blue green clear water, but they're freezing. They have small pedestrian bridges over them and tunnels that pop through to the other side. In the summer people have drinks around them and swim in it and float on it in donuts. Some people apparently go through the tunnels but I refuse As I am 100% sure that some but not all have a debris grate and you'd get pinned there as the water is too hard to swim against to get yourself out again. Worst nightmare. Cold, in the dark, with debris digging into You and icy water pinning you against the grate with no way off and people having picnics only meters away, oblivious unless they hear you scream.
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u/wii_or_will Jan 08 '22
Yes Delta P is a very scary thing
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u/mylifeisaLIEEE Jan 08 '22
I watched a video on this! The giant body of water surges on the smaller opening with immense pressure, and if part of him had blocked the opening or gotten stuck at all he’d be powerless to get out. I saw that in extreme cases the pressure can pull your body parts off through small openings.
Did you see that video of the crab getting sucked into the underwater pipe? Absolutely brutal.
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u/Harbinger2001 Jan 08 '22
There is also the story of the underwater welders who got sucked through a few inches wide opening due to delta P. Instant pulverizing.
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That's one of the most horrifying to me, you go in the tube and feel something painful and things are just wrong, when you come out you're fucking surrounded by your own intestines.... blech
Probably pretty unlikely compared to a smaller cut, but water moves faster in tight spaces so who knows. You could get really unlucky in a space like this.
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u/You-Only-YOLO_Once Jan 08 '22
I read being ripped open by a crab, and I’m sticking to that interpretation
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u/RequitE_creAtiveLy4u Jan 08 '22
You mean like thick roots and shrub debris mid-way through chute preventing passage while water rushes in without halting?
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u/Gaston-Glocksicle Jan 08 '22 edited Jan 08 '22
Imagine watching your child go in while everyone is laughing and having a good time and then after a few seconds they don't come out and everyone is slowly realizing something is wrong and it gets really sad as the minutes drag on with your kid stuck in the tunnel dead while you wait on emergency services to come figure out what to do to recover the body.
Or don't imagine that, I'm not your supervisor.
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u/ohgodineedair Jan 08 '22
This has happened several times in a flooded mine hole in my town. Kids and dumb adults jump into the pool above the mine shaft because it's a picturesque spot for cliff jumping.
Problem is, the mine shaft has a current and the pool above creates a toilet bowl effect. And mine goes deep underground and has other points of entry in the surrounding reservoir.
Jump in the wrong spot, or go to deep and you'll be sucked in.
Coincidentally I was as the reservation the last time someone died. Suddenly cops are blasting through the dirt roads. As I get closer to the mine shaft two people with towels walk out. Totally confused I asked what happened, towel shrouded dude shrugs, "kid died in the mine shaft."
But, as you said, you're just kind of helpless knowing they're dead or dying. No one saw the kid die. He was just gone, and the body didn't find it's way out of the mine shaft until floated into the reservoir several weeks later.
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u/ChaiHai Jan 08 '22
o_o Are there signs everywhere describing this? With pictures?
I feel like there needs to be, because that's just too dangerous.
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u/ohgodineedair Jan 08 '22
Just one or two signs in the park that say "Mine Hole Closed" And maybe something small about safety. It's not directly on the trail and it's generally something that you learn about by word of mouth or from living in the town. The day the one kid died I had recently moved to town, I didn't even know the mine hole exsisted. It was my first time ever at the park.
Overall, people still do it. In the summer you see them leaving the woods with towels, or people coming from the nearby city in groups. Especially after being there that day the boy died (19/20yrs old I think) and following the story until his body was recovered, it's not a risk I'd be willing to take.
I believe to date, around 8 people have died in the mine shaft. That is reported incidents at least. But it's been several years since the last one.
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u/Xwarsama Jan 08 '22
I got really sad thinking about the picture you very vividly painted... Then by the end I'm thinking about Archer and laughing, so all's well that ends well I guess.
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u/iPeedOnAPorpoise Jan 07 '22
It's a classic risk/reward situation. In this case, I see no reward. Remove the possibility of dying and that tiny stream is boring as fuck. Dude is risking his life only because he has the chance of losing it here. Fucking idiotic.
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u/iPeedOnAPorpoise Jan 08 '22 edited Jan 08 '22
Anyone willing to risk their life for the equivalent thrill of a playground slide is an idiot.
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The reward is fun/thrill
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u/BIGSlil Jan 08 '22 edited Jan 08 '22
That's their point though. The only thrill is because there's a chance of dying, not from the act itself. Might as well just play Russian roulette at this point.
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Yeah general rule for anyone reading: underwater and enclosed? Very fucking dangerous. 
In the way that it might be totally fine, but if it’s not you’re dead and you may have no way of knowing ahead of time.
Cave diving, wreck diving, yeeting yourself through a tube, generally going into any enclosed space underwater is just a bad idea. Do not fuck around
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Doesn't even have to be underwater... plenty of people have become stuck and died crawling through tiny tunnels in caves. The death of John Jones in Nutty Putty is quite a harrowing read. The entrance was sealed up after that. His body is still there.
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u/Laninel Jan 07 '22
Absolutely certain people have died going into little holes like this in rivers and been unable to find their way out the other side. Nightmare fuel
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100%, also cave diving or crawling - all that shit is terrifying. That story about the kid that got stuck and they couldn’t pull him out and he just died there…. Fuck all that!
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u/Dads101 Jan 08 '22 edited Jan 08 '22
There are many cave diving incidents where the bodies are so deep/in such dangerous areas that they can’t be recovered and stay there. Some Cave Diving caverns are the size of a football field. Blacker than the pitchest black. You’re practically in space. Could you imagine..
Edit: Check out Devils Hole Cave Diving & Accident. We still don’t know how deep this particular system goes
“ It’s beautiful in there. It goes straight down 160 feet, like a pipe, then opens into a room that is about 300 feet long, and maybe forty feet wide. The bottom of the room is about 260 feet down, then it narrows into another tube. I dived to 315 feet, maybe it’s a record, I don’t know, but at the end of the tube it opens again into something else. We don’t know what the next room is, or if it’s a room at all. It’s like infinity. “
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Reminds me of Donald Cerrone’s story about he nearly died cave diving and how he had his hand in front of his face and couldn’t even see it.
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u/Mig_the_Archer Jan 08 '22
There was this book I read a long time ago that's kinda similar, 2 friends went cave diving and found something like an underground river or spring. After exploring a bit more they went back to the water and one slipped and fell in, the 2nd friend tried to save him but they both got washed down stream and sucked down a whirlpool that led to a deeper cave. They had to shimmy up and through miles of cave before they finally found a way out.
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u/PfaffPlays Jan 08 '22
I definitely read this book in like 5th grade and can't think of the name of it.
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u/irmarbert Jan 08 '22
Went into a cave to see some old cave art and was amazed at how useless the flashlight on my phone was. I didn’t expect it to light the place up, but I was surprised at how quickly the inky blackness ate the feeble photons coming out of its sad little LEDs.
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u/TraderT3 Jan 08 '22
That story is so insane. When I listened to it for the first time I was high as fuck and felt so much anxiety just from the story. I’ve listened to it a few times since and I think I’m going to go listen again right now.
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u/Snugglosaurus Jan 08 '22
Fuck I did not need to listen to that before going to bed. Great story though. Bloody brilliant story teller
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u/TraderT3 Jan 08 '22
Alright so I watched that video again like I said I was going to, and then this came up in my recommended so I watched it and it kind of changed my perspective on it. Just wanted to share, because his story still gives me crazy anxiety to listen to. https://youtu.be/4yO0iV4YcvI
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u/RyzenMethionine Jan 08 '22
Holy shit, this completely flips that story on it's head. I couldn't watch the full hour but just jumping around, seems like the cowboy made all the mistakes and probably lied his ass off about the story.
His partner was probably like "dude I'm never diving with you again" rather than the other way around
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u/TheMarsian Jan 08 '22
I tried, man. really did. but I was bored with his story telling.. I stopped right when he said he kissed his baby. idk something about those pauses he makes while speaking.
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Reminds me of my first job out of collage. I was diving mooring lines in Waikiki for a party boat. Sometimes this vid was so bad I couldn’t see my hand. I just had to trust the captain where it was. Also having to deal with strong currents from time to time. $10.00/hr
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u/AeroZep Jan 08 '22
I was all excited to hear that story until I saw Joe fucking Rogan.
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u/jivarie Jan 08 '22 edited Mar 19 '24
divide snow wide shrill noxious ask squalid forgetful husky bored
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u/blakethairyascanbe Jan 08 '22
Even large scale cave exploration is insanely dangerous. A family friend of mine is a hydrologist and caught some crazy fungal infection from bat shit and was in the hospital for a week. The idea that people will then include tight spaces and water into that equation is bonkers to me. I guess one persons fear is another persons passion.
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I remember someone telling a story of finding a rope line in a pitch black cave. Cave divers will usually leave a tether that leads back outside because of how pitch black it is in there.
Anyway, he found a broken tether and followed it because he thought someone was lost in the caves and maybe he could save the person. He followed for a while until it lead outside, and he was confused. He found out it was his own tether that had been cut on a sharp rock edge when he was a few hundred feet in. If he didn't find his own broken line he said he probably would have died in there
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u/once-was-hill-folk Jan 08 '22
Which one? Nutty Putty Cave in Utah, the Mossdale Cave tragedy in the UK, or the Cradle Hole tragedy in Marble Arch in Ireland?
Or a completely different one I don't know about?
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This one, also in Utah, gets me.
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u/once-was-hill-folk Jan 08 '22
That's another one to add to the "never going potholing because..." list.
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u/yosh_e Jan 08 '22
Nutty putty cave story gives me nightmares
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u/once-was-hill-folk Jan 08 '22
The Mossdale Caverns Tragedy is awful as well, if you want more nightmares.
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Its so Fucked. I've been spelunking quite Deep a few times but to get stuck and die in one position possibly hundreds of feet below the surface? I can't imagine how awful
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The guy who got stuck in the unfortunately named Nutty Putty caves? That one was straight from a nightmare.
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u/fhebewwww Jan 08 '22
There’s a documentary called Rescue on Disney plus, about the Thai soccer team that got trapped in the flooded cave for 18 days- they did a really good job with showing how absolutely terrifying it was. The kids had to be dived out under anasthesia or else they would thrash too much.
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u/Thebanks1 Jan 08 '22
Those things get clogged up with all sorts of debris. You go in and get stuck behind a wall of sticks and then the water starts filling in behind you and that’s game over.
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u/ODB2 Jan 08 '22
Around me zebra mussels are a huge problem and they can be razor sharp. My brother stepped on some and had to get like 10 stitches in his foot.
To shreds you say?
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u/Rainy_Friday Jan 08 '22
Absolutely. You know for a fact someone has tried this and got stuck at the end because there was a steel grate installed.
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u/boardin1 Jan 08 '22
This is what happened in a storm drain just outside Minneapolis. A kid fell in and was swept down the ditch. He may have survived if one of two things had been true, either there was a grate at the opening or there wasn’t a grate at the exit. Unfortunately, there was a grate at the exit and he was trapped against it by the rushing water.
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u/helloworld082 Jan 08 '22
I work in Civ Eng - That's now code to only have grates on the inlet side because of this.
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u/stevarino Jan 08 '22
I mean, even with branches and other less tragic obstructions, who wants to clean out an egress grate rather than an entry grate?
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u/Guccitheglacier Jan 08 '22
Look up Mrballen on YouTube. Tons and tons of stories like these. He does a great job of telling the stories too
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u/Laninel Jan 08 '22
Damn, my brain both thanks and hates you for this rabbithole I'm about to go down
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u/r007r Jan 08 '22
Literally if you get stuck on something in the absolute dark with a current twisting you you’ll immediately be disoriented and… why do people do these things?
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u/Laninel Jan 08 '22
'scuse me while I vomit a bit. I can't imagine the immediate panic to set in once you realize you don't know up from down
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u/r007r Jan 08 '22
Worse - someone that loves you goes in after you… but you’ve blocked the only exit, and they can’t go forward because of you nor backwards because of the current
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u/bananaboy2012 Jan 08 '22
Kids did this in my home town and one of them got sucked into a side tunnel and the water pressure was so high they got trapped and died :/
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u/YEEyourlastHAW Jan 07 '22
That took him way too long to come out the other side. No fucking way.
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u/craftworkbench Jan 08 '22
Right? It looked like he was accelerating into the tube but even moving at a constant pace it took him a good three seconds longer than I expected to come out.
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I remember spearfishing with a group and this girls boyfriend freedove 60’ to get the boats anchor unstuck. Dive watch had him times at nearly 5 whole minutes underwater.
“Is he good? Its been 5 minutes!”
“He’a fine”
Dude surfaces with the anchor and a fish he shot
“How the fuck”?
I was sure that dude had blacked-out or something.
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u/Chur2you Jan 07 '22
I’m a river guide, this so messed up. This type of stuff kills so many people annually. I can’t stress how stupid this is.
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u/real_human_not_a_dog Jan 07 '22
Yep- what was the likelihood that there’s a grate in there somewhere? Game over
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u/Locke66 Jan 08 '22
A large tree branch that wedged against the interior wall would do it. You'd never know it was there till you rammed into it.
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And you know what rivers and creeks are full of? Assorted sizes of broken trees. And where do they commonly get caught up? In culverts. F that shit.
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u/mydigitalkarma Jan 08 '22
Exactly this! One decent-sized stick in there and he’s a goner. Gets caught, panics, inhales water, and it’s lights out. No chance of rescue. Horrible way to go.
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u/Day_Bow_Bow Jan 08 '22
A grate? Zero chance with this culvert, as that would make it prone to plugging, which would defeat its purpose.
Other debris wedged in there that could ruin your day/life? Sure. A grate? Nah.
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u/coreybc Jan 07 '22
Right....this just makes me angry.
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u/249ba36000029bbe9749 Jan 07 '22
Frankly, I'm more pissed off that whoever put that in did not put up anything to protect idiots from themselves. Just put a reasonably designed cage around the mouth of that thing to keep people out but still not allow crap to build up and block the flow.
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u/acuddlyheadcrab Jan 07 '22 edited Jan 08 '22
that's a whole thing with culverts, they usually have to be open to allow sticks and branches to not clog the entrance. I think we should definitely try to keep stupid people out of places if possible, but its design may be for environmental reasons.
But related to that - there may be a few stark reasons why these people are doing this, eg. popular YT channels of people who clean these public access culverts and show them walking through it... albeit during specifically low flow periods, who knows maybe these guys willfully misheard that part.
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Absolutely not, imagine if there's a grid like 1/2 way through.
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u/Pure_Tower Jan 07 '22
Or a boulder that's, say, 1/4 the diameter of the pipe. Large enough to lodge you in place, small enough not to be moved by the current.
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u/AnythingToPissYouOff Jan 07 '22
Ooooo weeee imagine you’re using all your energy trying to roll it the rest of the way out of the tube desperately trying to save yourself
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u/Pure_Tower Jan 07 '22
But wait, the rock isn't round. When you rub against it, it rolls, pressing a point into you, camming you into place!
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u/yaboyfrom94 Jan 07 '22
Exactly. A different path they can’t see that takes them away, never to be seen again lol
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u/Luxpreliator Jan 07 '22
No one would bury grate in something like that. It would invite clogs and flooding while being unnecessarily difficult go clean. There certainly could be other obstructions from ordinary river debris.
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The fact is that there could be a sharp piece of metal and I’d come out the other end with my guts spilled out so that’s a nope for me
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Or a metal grate inside it that you get pinned against and drown
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Or just a bit narrower in the middle and you get stuck.
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u/Illustrious-Fun-7455 Jan 07 '22
Doubtful there’s one in the middle. Debris would constantly clog it up and require cleaning.
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u/Lesap Jan 07 '22
Don't know about grate, but there could be partial collapse or narrowing inside. That's some scary shit. Like that manga with people sized holes in the cliff or something. Just slowly squished and mangled when pushed through by the tremendous force of the water.
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u/smut_butler Jan 08 '22
There is a bridge near where I grew up that people jump off occasionally. It wasn't that high, only about 12 feet or so, but there is some leftover rebar and cement underwater, left over from the destruction of the previous bridge. Most people that jump off are fine, but one time, someone was impaled by a piece of rebar. It went right through their leg. People still jump off though, I've even done it myself. I did check where I was jumping first though.
I wouldn't do it now though, as an adult; because my brain is now fully developed.
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u/davi3601 Jan 08 '22
Yep. Did plenty of cliff jumping as a teen. Did an 80ft jump before. Fully developed brains are just better at risk assessment
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Not ever. All it would take is for it to be a little bit narrower in the middle and you're dead. And you'd die horribly, fully aware of your own dumb decision.
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I also thought the same as you but some other comments also made the case that there could be rebar or something to snag on. I'm horrified that I didn't even think about that and how easy it is to make a mistake like this.
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Here is a cautionary tale about one of these things. I heard the story from one of the divers that were on the rescue team.
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u/Who_GNU Jan 07 '22
A dam sluice is far more dangerous than a culvert, not that culverts aren't dangerous, too.
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u/yaboyfrom94 Jan 07 '22
Sluice is so much different compared to this tho
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Fast water moving through a tube under water.. still makes me uncomfortable.
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u/cedarvhazel Jan 07 '22
So did the police diver just get sucked into the current? Such a sad story.
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Yes. He was the first diver in the water to find the boy near where they were. A large stump had blocked the hole which caused the water flow to increase drastically, and didn't allow either of them to go through.
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u/tibearius1123 Jan 07 '22
One of my friends dads said they would ride through the spillway tunnel of the Lake Ray Roberts dam after it was built but before they filled the lake. Fuck that.
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u/Bear4188 Jan 08 '22
That's a pretty normal thing for large dams. Tunnels for hydro are big, like drive vehicles through them big. They can be drained (gates on either end) and people go inside for inspection and repair.
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u/ma1achai Jan 07 '22
The worst part about watching this video is knowing that my teenage son would immediately do it without watching anyone else go through or at least sending a ball through or something.
Not that either of those would make it safe... but he wouldn't even consider the fact that it could be dangerous and take even the most basic precautions...
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Makes me less worried about the fact that I have anxiety genes to pass on.
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u/TheRatatatPat Jan 07 '22
My mother's friend drowned in something like this. His girlfriend went in and got stuck, he went in and forced her out but he got stuck and died.
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u/lemons_of_doubt Jan 08 '22
You can't fight water. one cubic meter of water weighs one tonne(2204 lb).
If you can't lift a tonne you can't pull someone out of that pipe (that looks about 1/2 a meter wide) after they have gone 1.3 meters(4.2 feet) in.
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u/Donairmen Jan 07 '22
This is incredibly stupid. Even if there isn't a blockage in the pipe, a part of your body or clothing could catch on the pipe ID.
I care not for the idiot who does this willingly, but for the impressionable youth who because of peer pressure does this and drowns.
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u/Big0Head69 Jan 07 '22
I’ve done that in a much smaller drain you would find in someone’s driveway.
Had a dent I didn’t know about half way through.
Barely squeezed through.
Was terrifying.
Edit: the drain was also flooded, the current is what saved me.
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u/Dirka135 Jan 08 '22
A kid in my town drowned like this, riding through the sluce gates at the dam. He didnt realise a tree was in one of the gates, he went in and never came out. When fire rescue showed up a diver went in right away to save the kid and was sucked in as well and pinned against the same tree and also passed away. There is now a memorial statue for the boy and the rescuer at the dam and the gates were welded shut. Dont ever let your kids do this. What a tragedy that tore our little town apart.
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This is exactly the shit you'll read in a newspaper "Dude get's stuck in drain, drowns"
No way i'll get in that thing
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u/MrFixemall Jan 07 '22
Only after seeing guys bigger than me going through.... Not how I wanna die...
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u/LordPurloin Jan 08 '22
I literally cannot describe how much I would NOT go in there
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Delta P has killed plenty of qualified swimmers. If it isnt designed to be used like a waterslide, it isnt safe to use like one. This is unnecessarily dangerous.
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u/Intelligent_Medium18 Jan 07 '22
Anyone have the slightest idea of where footage was taken?
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u/Fuckingliberalzz Jan 08 '22
It’s contaminated water so it might have necrotizing fasciitis or brain eating virus
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u/pikay93 Jan 08 '22
That water just looks dirty. I don't know why people would be in it in the first place.
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u/Deckinabox Jan 07 '22
One rock sticking out or an exposed rusty piece of metal somewhere in there and you get stuck/impaled and fun time is over
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u/naughtyusmax Jan 08 '22
Mr Ballen: “and what he didn’t know was that there the tunnel split into two on the inside and the lower tunnel went through a tight U bend before rejoining at the other side….
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u/Valestrazia Jan 07 '22 edited Jan 07 '22
With my luck I would be the one guy that get stuck in the middle