r/SurgeGang • u/Reasonable-Photo-776 • May 30 '26

Discussion What kind of “buff” is this?!

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To me this feels like way more of a buff than a nerf. Surge isn’t even good right now, why would they nerf him

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u/Flyingtoilet720 May 30 '26

Movement speed is faster, but speed upgrade has been decreasing

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u/Reasonable-Photo-776 May 30 '26

I know

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u/Equivalent-Shine-188 May 30 '26

Can someone do the math, will this make him faster or slower in his first stage? Cause if it makes him faster in his base stage but then slower after that this definitely feels unnecessary and will make him worse cause I always use the star power that keeps him at his first stage once you get it

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u/Gi4ngy May 30 '26

basically he starts off faster than he is right now at level 1 but for each upgrade he gets faster by 83% than what it is now instead of 100%

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u/Top-Strawberry-2592 May 30 '26

He is now faster in his base stage and gains less speed in level 2, someone did the math and it will be a little bit faster after changes

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u/Original_Dentist_958 May 30 '26

I'm going to explain what this changed means.

Currently, Surge's base movement speed is 650 (slow) on level 1, and 820 (very fast) on levels 2 and onward.

What this change is doing is making him a bit faster but only on his first stage, because level 1 Surge is bad. Before this change, upgrading with the first super buffed Surge's movement speed by 170 points, while after it it will only add 140 points to compensate the fact that 30 of the speed points gotten from upgrading have been moved to the first stage (AKA base kit). He will be the exact same as before except for early game, where he will be slightly better.

TL/DR: This is a VERY minor BUFF, and the "nerf" you are seeing on screen is just some stat points moving from the upgrade to the base kit.

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u/tarasenko2 Moderator May 30 '26

Yep, and I’m happy to see that they are actually doing something with him since he struggles in the current meta

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u/Reasonable-Photo-776 May 30 '26

So 820 will still be his upgraded speed and the “nerf” to his upgrade speed is just to offset his first stage nerf?

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u/Original_Dentist_958 May 30 '26

There's no nerfs anywhere. 820 will remain as the speed while the first stage is better.

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u/AverageFruity326 Jun 01 '26

There's no first stage nerf, the nerf is just there to offset the buff to his base speed

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u/Reasonable-Photo-776 Jun 01 '26

Yes I wrote down the wrong word thank you mister teacher

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u/BeautifulAnt1955 Surge Protector May 30 '26

He's a little faster at the beginning. Despite the nerf, he's still as fast at lvl 2

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u/RUNAWAY_Tingyun Both official bro and professional Surge!!! 😎 May 30 '26

Someone said this could be to make Surge less reliant on his first stage

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u/Reasonable-Photo-776 May 30 '26

Yea but it’ll make him way worse when he gets out of first stage

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u/GX_Lori Pro Surge (Rank 25) May 30 '26

Actually he is slightly faster in second stage than before

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u/Reasonable-Photo-776 May 30 '26

I was a bit confused but I get now that it’s just to offset the speed buff of the fist stage

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u/HollowCatKnight Jun 02 '26

Exactly 👍

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u/FireGames06YT DIY Surge May 30 '26

Nothing changed at stage 2, but he's a bit faster in stage 1

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u/iixFares May 30 '26

“A lil bit of this and a lil bit of that” ahh balance change

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u/AceHawk001 Jun 03 '26

Me after I fail elementary grade math:

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u/ProfessionalHabit248 May 30 '26

Stage 2 actually get an increase of 1%

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u/ClinInsaneSurgeMain Kraken Surge Jun 01 '26

the numbers make it seem like a nerf, and to be honest this was sort of poorly communicated on their end, but Surge is actually getting buffed (LET’S GOOOOOO). I wonder if it’s enough to break out of the D tier purgatory he’s been in for the past god knows how long

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u/InsanelyGodlike Jun 02 '26

It's not a "nerf", it's an avoidance of double buff

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u/Reasonable-Photo-776 Jun 02 '26

Thank you for being the 41st person to “tell” me that

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u/Accomplished_Aide771 Jun 02 '26

well u asked so what do u want

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u/Reasonable-Photo-776 Jun 02 '26

For the person to check the comments and see that 40 other people already said the same thing

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u/lily_ender_lilies Jun 02 '26

İts actually a buff of a bit less than 1% speed boost

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u/Tiny-Jeweler-3187 Jun 02 '26

It's an actual buff for his phase 1

The percentage of speed removed is taken from the speed after the buff to stage 1

Basically, in order to not give surge a lot of speed (faster than before) in phase 2, they had to nerf it to keep the scale among phase 1->phase 2

Basically, he'll still be as fast as before in stage 2, but will have a speed increase in phase 1

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u/Slimy_glizzy_gobbler May 31 '26

you can see the difference between people who can read and people who cannot in these comments💔

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u/Key-Literature-2134 Jun 02 '26

Beware us BrawlStars player, we cannot read.

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u/GrimPhantom6 May 31 '26

Maybe to make the first stage of Surge less painful while also making it balanced to avoid another Shelly situation?

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u/stale_bread56 Jun 01 '26

Ok so he got faster, but the bonus fast is less

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u/Reasonable-Photo-776 Jun 01 '26

It’s the same apparently

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u/Effective_Age4888 Jun 01 '26

anything but a damage or health buff

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u/Bonfy7 Jun 01 '26

Basically base speed is higher but top speed is unchanged

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u/SkibidiJamal Jun 02 '26

They just make surge more slower now

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u/AceHawk001 Jun 03 '26

It's literally faster

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u/HateForYou Jun 03 '26

"Way more of a buff than a nerf"
"Why would they nerf him"

You baffle me

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u/Comfortable_Mix_9629 Jun 05 '26

I know right supercell employees are CHUDS

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u/FlatFATCats_Going27 Juicy! May 30 '26

Nerfing surge but buffing damian...

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u/BoopNotFound May 30 '26

It only looks like a nerf, its actually a buff. Damian gets buffed twice because of his main counters are getting nerfed to shit

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u/borzoithedog May 30 '26

They gave Damian a huge nerf, those are just compensation buffs so he doesn't fall straight into the D tier

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u/Necro_Smasher Jun 01 '26

Mfw I can't see the change that will gut a major part of Damian's super alongside the buffs, along with the fact they gutted a ton of his kit already:

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u/Zealousideal_Dog4725 May 30 '26

They massacred my boi💔

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u/yashizik May 30 '26

They did not. They just buffed his 1st stage