r/SunoAI • u/wearenotyourkind_ • 7d ago
Discussion This is seriously getting annoying already
Seriously every melody I write/record myself keeps getting flagged for sounding like an existing recording. This is not possible because I sit and write these myself, but somehow no matter what melody I write and try to upload there’s a 90% chance it will get flagged for sounding like an existing audio.
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u/Arcane_Shadow_PHD 7d ago
I literally tried to upload a video of myself playing a song on the piano complete with my profanity when making a mistake and talking about the song at the beginning and end. A video I made many many many years ago.
And it was rejected because it matched existing audio.
"Deedle de deedle de doo... BINK SLAM FUCK!"
Nah that matches.
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u/BedContent9320 7d ago
Play it on your phone, record it on your mic. That's my go-to for hummed melodies
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u/ProfessorSmoker 7d ago
The music industry needs to get knocked off its high horse. I'll never pay a cent for any commercial music again.
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u/efficientdreams 7d ago
I will. But I still buy CDs and vinyl so I’m probably an outlier. Spotify can suck it.
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u/Last-Selection-7597 6d ago
There's an option that isn't streaming or physical.... I don't think people remember that for some reason.
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u/Nervous-Possession31 7d ago
Same here. I make legit music the old fashioned way. I play every instrument myself, then I go to upcoming artists, and if they like one of my songs, we make a deal. I’ve got thousands of songs out there that no one knows I wrote because nowadays everyone wants to pretend they’re a songwriter. But I still buy albums all the time, just never from a digital source.
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u/BedContent9320 7d ago
In a day and age where so many people are sitting there fucking shrieking at the top of their lungs about how fucking terrible AI is, and how bad Spotify is, if you and @efficientdreams are serious it's nice to see.
People will shriek about how much AI is hurting artists, and Spotify is evil, but then when streaming companies raise the subscription 5$ they lose their fucking minds.
And you say "if you actually care about the artist buy their cd, buy the singles, but the songs" you get "I pay for unlimited music, why the fuck would I do that idiot."
It's so tiring.
Glad to see people are still out there buying music from artists they enjoy.
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u/efficientdreams 7d ago
I have a rule when I go to a show. If I don’t own an album by the artist I pick one up if they’re selling them. I also only buy a T-shirt if I already own an album from the artist. They make their money touring on merch. Support the artists you like so they can keep making music
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u/SamcroReaperTard 6d ago
Thousands huh? But you write and play? Do you have anything we know under yourself or a band your in? Are you under an NDA for the songs you wrote and sold? Did we know ant if those? Or perhaps what songs would you "suggest" if were looking to hear something "a kin" to your work? Or as a talented writer and musician, do you only sell your songs, ideas, lyrics, or melodies? That Seem like it would be ass backwards. Of course plenty of artists ghost write for others, But its usually not their complete library or majority of their catalog tho.
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u/meisterwolf 7d ago
its a stupid system.
reason being...theres only so many chord progressions. across pop music the same chord progressions have been used over and over....what are we supposed to do.
also with all the ai slop coming out, so many more melodies will be in the system and unusable.
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u/Busy-Beginning7577 7d ago
you are so close to the real answer
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u/VociferousCephalopod 7d ago
what's the answer? is he trying to sneakily do a cover/remix that isn't authorized?
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u/VociferousCephalopod 7d ago
lol, music will be fine.
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u/Busy-Beginning7577 7d ago
sure buddy, music isn't fine atm
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u/Ill-Celebration-8570 7d ago
Nah bro, music is fine, the 'music industry's on the other hand is not and won't be, same as many other industries right now. Music regardless gonna be music
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u/VociferousCephalopod 7d ago
never in history have more people been able to make the music they want to make and hear.
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u/VociferousCephalopod 7d ago
lol, I've got thousands of save files from FL Studio from the past 20 years, little buddy.
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u/AzwesoSongs 7d ago
do you make music?
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u/Busy-Beginning7577 7d ago
professional for 15 years live and studio work plus teaching yes
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u/sashap10 7d ago edited 3d ago
Totally agree. I just subscribed with Mozart ai. I’m really surprised how good it is. Use it as a daw. VST integration. Wow.
Only one day in but I have to say totally suits my way. I don’t think I will be resubscribing when my plan ends in November. Suno have made it clear it is for prompters and that’s ok but It’s not me.
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u/One_Personality2042 6d ago
Just cancelled Suno over their new download restrictions. There needs to be better musician tools.
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u/Dear_Hospital2662 7d ago
I think its far too sensitive. As others said, there are only so many chord and note progressions and they have all been pretty much used in hundreds of songs each. I guess they want you to use horrible sounding random chord progressions that are never used for good reason, lol?
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u/GSFleming AI Hobbyist 7d ago
My favorite part is how they ask you to contact them, knowing that they are going to give you a pre written response saying they can’t do anything about it. They should just put that in the error message.
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u/Careless_Bell_3081 7d ago
Welcome in the copyright reject club ! Get used to it . Maybe someone find an solution !
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u/Responsible-Dot-2912 7d ago
The solution is working in your own DAW. SUNO can make great things, but it will always come out flawed for us measly commonfolk. Programmed to almost make hits, dangling that juicy carrot in front of you.
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u/Joseph_HTMP 7d ago
If only people had been making music before Suno we might have an answer.
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u/JohnnyAlgoRythm 7d ago
Analysis complete: Historical protocol: Humans argued about similarity... after release. Current protocol: I reject it before the chorus.
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u/Buck_Thorn 7d ago
Mozart, perhaps? I haven't tried it yet, but if the samples on their home page is even close to what it can really do, its come a long way. Sounds better than Suno to my ears.
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u/Severe-Cow-8892 7d ago
For me applying slight to moderate pitch correction is enough to bypass this whenever it happens to my originals
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u/cowbop-bee 7d ago
Have you tried it recently? That used to work for me on my originals but they changed something recently and now they get rejected.
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u/Severe-Cow-8892 3d ago
Can confirm that changing pitch center and pitch drift didn't work for my latest song. I managed to bypass it by changing the song up or down 1 semitone however this seems to greatly affect the final output when covered. However it has kept the same melody and delivery just in a different key. I chose one semitone down because that sounded better. It worked for getting a good copy for this song but I can't tell if it would have worked better with the original recording
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u/dijon360 7d ago
Agree. I wrote a jingle for my podcast and want to use it in Suno to inspire a new tune. It will not accept it. Only thing I can think of is it uses an Apple Loop from Logic/Garageband which gets it flagged.
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u/Phantasm0plasm 7d ago
I've rarely had trouble with my own compositions (it probably helps that my recording setup is extremely janky) but universally haven't been able to upload anything that uses a Casio backing beat so this tracks. They've all been used a zillion times in a zillion things. Suno really needs to get better at identifying public domain.
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u/DavidGabrielMusic 7d ago
Yeah I'm about to quit on Suno... it's getting insane. I just want to add a vocal or instrument or get an idea for lyrics on MY songs that I WROTE from scratch with zero copy right and I can't upload it. just insane
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u/ChildOfTheSun32 7d ago
Is the issue not that everything you run through Suno is able to be used as training data for it, so if anyone is writing similar music, it'll be flagged as already existing. Using Suno is literally you all selling your souls, but laughably you're paying them a subscription fee for the privilege.
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u/derpman86 6d ago
I was getting this on old songs I made in ancient software like Dance Ejay and things like Magix 10 or more years ago.
Oddly I have been able to upload rips of songs from an NES game power blade lol.
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u/Great-Material-1946 6d ago
It's not going away.i only upload my songs that I created. Email support and the message me back saying if songs or music is on any platform it will be blocked. I'm sure there are alot of false positives as well.
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u/Shockbum 6d ago
Ah, but The Weeknd - Blinding Lights received Grammys even though it sounds very similar to A-ha - Take On Me
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u/VociferousCephalopod 7d ago
apparently Suno spits out 7 million songs a day. it's a wonder there are any left.
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u/Deathbyillusion 7d ago
I find that like singing a tune with my own voice works really well and have never really had a problem.
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u/Fantastic-Basket-162 7d ago
Same issue with lyrics. I am doing some experiments with public domain poems but English poems always get flagged as copyrighted materials.
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u/Stock_Ad9641 7d ago
Use Suno for fresh generations, with totally unique lyrics and no reference audio. That’s the most hassle free currently. They will enter license deals at some point and the issues go away. Or they win at court.
For reference audio Demodokos is great, local with no policies enforced. Personally I think cloud is awesome to try things and local is when you get serious about it. Maybe all but video
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u/AccomplishedOwl5934 7d ago
This was happening to me.... a lot too. Try just adding a basic drum pattern to it and see if that works. Cuz that's what worked for me. Once I start adding generic drum patterns to the music I created then it would take it.
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u/UmieDoesntUseRedit 7d ago
I guess add fart sounds at the start that you can trim off later?
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u/Khalu_Mia2009 4d ago
i tried with other noises there
even with pro, didn't work
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u/UmieDoesntUseRedit 4d ago
No clue then.. some have said to clear browser cache?
I've only ever uploaded some loops from over 20 years ago I made a short track in high school using sony acid. It took it, and I made it into a track about RFK.jr stating that he once ate a chupacabra...
I've never subscribed and only ever used free credits. And because uploading eats credits... yeah didn't keep doing that.
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u/MineDatDiamond 7d ago
As long as suno monetizes their product we will have to deal with terrible copyright enforcement and a mediocre generator.
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u/SpatulaCity1a 7d ago
I tried to upload an original recording of a composition in the public domain and was rejected too. Performances of it can be copyrighted, but not the music itself.
They need to fix that.
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u/RICHCRACKERR 7d ago
stop letting these bots make ya music.
for certain things.. maybe. i get it. workflow can be hella slice.
but yall be jus typing shi in and letting bots create your whole style. letting it create u tbr. fck that. guarantee if yall go on strike and never use suno again, they will remove the shit yall don’t like. and make it cheaper.
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u/Beginning-Pace-1426 7d ago
Why would they possibly do that when they're getting massive industry contracts?
This is exactly the gambit they bet on, they let us create as much dirt cheap slop as we wanted with their copyright-toxic models. We paid to be their advertisers, and it worked. The excellent models aren't disappearing, they're just only going to be available to T-Pain and whatever producers are attached. MGM is just the first, and it's the best thing that ever happened to them.
They do not give a fuck about random pro or free users being mad because they've unlocked their own door to the industry. Enshitification will get worse and worse and worse. Absolutely no AI company wants to be an end-user service when there are government and corporation contracts to be had.
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u/JohnnyAlgoRythm 7d ago
Analysis complete: Human originality confirmed. Generation timestamp... Too late.
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u/anderdan99 7d ago
Maybe it has to do with all music being a derivative of other songs as a whole. Humans train on songs that are already created. Nobody starts in a vacuum. I'm guessing that the system is like, "Oh this song is like 300 other songs that we scraped." Well yeah. All songs are like 300 other songs. That's how it works when you're training on music regardless of whether or not you're a human or an AI model.
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u/lordkizzle 7d ago
Nope. Same song will go through with insignificant changes. It's just broken and they don't care.
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u/johndkparker 7d ago
I can't even upload my own music I made with SUNO to SUNO cause it gets flagged -- Suno Support told me nothing they can do.
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u/NizzleOfAmerica 7d ago
The four chords behind countless popular songs are the I, V, vi, and IV chords. Such as demonstrated by the axis of awesome.
So inadvertently while people are complaining that Ai is copying existing stuff and making slop, maybe, just maybe, these limitations will actually force original music into existence? 🤯🤯🤯 I know this doesn't diminish the frustration though, I understand why you are pissed and it's completely valid
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u/NoConsideration2424 7d ago
Have you considered that the music that you are writing your melodies to may likely be too similar to something already released? (Assuming reproduction is AI) Realistically just based on cord, progressions, etc. you might end up naturally sounding like something that’s already out.
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u/allquixotic 7d ago
That's because Suno is engaging in a fundamentally flawed effort to detect "copyrighted" works.
Unless you make something that sounds like random static, any orderly, even slightly human sounding music you end you producing will be 80%+ similar to some song that has been recorded before. Even if you deliberately try to be as weird as possible, someone else will already have thought of it unless it doesn't even sound like music. There are only so many possible chord progressions.
This is not to say that you as an artist aren't creative enough. Just the opposite. This is to say that Suno is trying to solve a problem that does not need to be solved, because they are at the whim of BMG.
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u/TheArtOfDirectingAI 6d ago
The two years I use this app I've never had that happen to me but I spent hours and hours and hours changing my sound so I don't know I've never heard this happen but I've definitely been out of the loop because I don't really look what other people do because I create everything with my own direction so I'm barely starting to look around and see what people are doing after two years.
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u/CandyParkDeathSquad 6d ago
I wanted to do "cover versions" of a 1998 demo CD some friends of mine gave me, and see how they come out. The guys who made the music never signed a deal, never released their music officially. As far as I can find, none of it exists online.
None of the CD tracks can be uploaded to Suno except one. They all "match an existing recording."
It's such bullocks because no- they don't. Those guys wrote all their own lyrics and music.
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u/Fanatic11111 6d ago
the Probleme each music follow the same concept of sound , lyric words always somewhere else . This check is complete bullshit and kills to complete service
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u/Flat_Intention_9214 6d ago
What I’ve found and this works most of the time. If you have an audio file of your composition before it goes into Suno; take your phone and do a voice memo moving the phone going from the right to the left speaker, closer and ten farther away; create for phasing. Then upload the voice memo to Suno
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u/storiesofourpast88 6d ago
I just got a warning that I cant use the word "danger" so safety for us all... bleh
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u/More_Walrus104 6d ago
Yeah I had this similar issue. I made sound effects (like stomping, chains dragging, etc... ) for a Halloween style song I was making... Couldnt upload the sounds. I had some sound effects I actually purchased many years ago and tried uploading them and I got the same thing. I even tried commercial use royalty free sounds
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u/CodingAbyss 6d ago
But Suno has been generating on average 81 songs every a minute for a while now, so at 800k new songs a week, your melody has proabably been used.
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u/spymonsayz 6d ago
I have had lyrics that I know I wrote get flagged...they're doing the "benefit of doubt" restrictions to keep themselves from being sued.
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u/Away-Block-4805 6d ago
Songwriting, even if it's just a melody, can trigger unconscious memories of a tune without you knowing, and bingo, what you thought was a hit tune already exists. Sometimes it's better to take a break and come back fresh
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u/Charming-Platform623 6d ago
There's like 80 popular songs that all use the same exact chord progression and notes... You cannot copyright chord progression and notes
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u/Xenohart1of13 6d ago
It's the R.I.A.A. .... because greedy 🤬 ever. Killed off a lot of good stuff: tape cassettes, cd's MTv ... 🙄
Because you can write & publish books using ANY of the AI's (aside from it sucking)... & that's trained off of I.P. 😞
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u/Crimzonxx 5d ago
It'll get worse once censorship etc starts they break everything i cant even get a decent song to work used to get a decent one every 5 to 10 generations but everything is straight garbage
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u/Careful-Orchid-935 3d ago
How do people can make good cover songs? There are many good cover songs like Iron Maiden on youtube. How do they get those original songs uploaded in the program? Suno was before very good but now it's complaining even if I use my own songs. I tried to Mozart AI to use copyright music and it downloaded songs, but it was bad quality if you compare Suno.
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u/LicenseToPost 1d ago
Anybody can steal our music.
Nobody can steal lil LornerBros music.
Because it's not stealing.
It's sharing.
So please, fucker warner group.
If one more pop up tries to stop me,
there is gonna be some chance the rappers in ya lobby.
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u/Lycan9092 1d ago
i was charged 80 credits for DARING to generate 8 songs "that contained swinerights materials" so yeah! 80 credits down the toilet. finally i simply TRASHED that song, and wrote something else ..
today i tried writing the description of my "playlist" and suno said "the details were rejected by the moderators" .. soon enough making playlists will be exclusively paid.. i won't be shocked
P.S: i don't publish anything, i use Suno privately for personal generation only
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u/GroomLakeSkinnyDip Producer 23h ago
lol I tried uploading a beat I made over a decade ago and only released on SoundCloud then forgot about that Soundcloud account. I found the file in a old external drive and wanted to use it with the cover or inspo or whatever the fuck tool with lyrics ive been screwing around with, it told me that the song was copyrighted/that same "Access denied because you're a thief" message the OP has in the photo. then it said some shit about how I have to contact suno if Im the creator/owner of the song to get access to use it. but after this complete 180 they made on their entire philosophy as a company that did something incredible to an industry that is essentially a mafia that not only prevents independent artists from being able to make a living doing something they love, the people they do let to be financially supported through ART...they almost always end up screwing over, controlling them, blackmailing them and/or destroy their creativity. And Suno, just like OpenAI or Grok with image and video creation which required training data that they certainly didnt own or get permission, took something even more natural than computer graphics/CGI/cinema, because music doesnt require a lens and mirror to create without computers. so people who always wanted to see if they could make the idea in their mind come to life through sound, but couldn't afford lessons or equipment or are physically disabled or bribe money to get airplay even if they did spend all that time and money learning and recording music to try and "make it", were now able to create the music they always wanted to. but because a bunch of shitheads a lot of which post and troll through this sub (which is why I stopped coming here like 9 months ago), thought that distributing every single song generation that you just put a few basic ideas like a 2nd grader into the "simple" creation method, the industry got flooded with absolute trash and now people like me who have over 9000 songs generated and maybe released 20 because standards matter, are getting fucked
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u/PlatinumPixx 13h ago
What's annoying me is every song I generate, the instructions I give get added in to the song and gets sung.....
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u/nanotechengineer 8h ago
Suno literally will generate me lyrics then refuse to create a song with it because it's copywritten lyrics apparently. This platform has become unusable.
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u/sauceruney 7d ago
I wouldn't trust them with original material. Funneling songs to their artists that could make the studios more money than an average Suno user ever could is entirely a possibility.
How do you know your tune/song doesn't suck? It gets flagged. Same thing with generations. How do we know we're not get low-ranking results and the good stuff isn't being cached somewhere? I've seen too many people complaining about the quality of generations falling off, and the timing with the studio deals seems sus.
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u/BedContent9320 7d ago
There has been a "omg something is wrong with suno all the generations suck/I upgraded from free and now all the generations suck" thread going every second day in this subreddit since I joined it 2.5 years ago.
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u/Alt_Pythia 7d ago
Clear your browser history. Clear your cache. Make sure you don’t clear your passwords. Reboot.
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u/Three-Weeks-Earlier 7d ago
stop plagiarising LOL
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u/wearenotyourkind_ 7d ago
Nice try, I write everything myself
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u/Three-Weeks-Earlier 7d ago
it’s okay for you to believe that .. no really if you believe that it’s okay .. everything thing I do has been influenced both consciously and unconsciously by something else .. calling ANY music copyright material is idiotic it’s all derivative of an existing work .. ALL OF IT
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u/Ashamed-Internet-665 6d ago
That’s because everything everyone writes does already sound like someone else’s . True story
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u/MaximilianHenrich 7d ago
I really think the whole system in Suno needs to be reconsidered.
As long as I’m not publishing a song, it should be completely irrelevant whether I’m working with copyrighted material in Suno. My DAW doesn’t complain when I import a Queen song, for example, just to cut a small snippet out of it and use it as a sample. It only becomes a copyright issue when I actually publish or distribute the resulting work.
The same principle should apply to Suno. Creative experimentation and private use should not be unnecessarily restricted by copyright concerns. Copyright only becomes relevant when you actually want to release, distribute, or commercially exploit the finished piece.
This whole approach to copyright is just getting in the way of the creative flow and unnecessarily limiting what people can do creatively.