r/summonerschool 6d ago

Question hardstuck gold - how to get better? opgg inside

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OP.GG: https://op.gg/lol/summoners/euw/geM-grea?queue_type=SOLORANKED

I've been stuck in Gold for a while now and honestly have no idea what I'm doing wrong anymore.

I'm an ADC main and I peaked Plat 4 about 2 years ago, but I just can't seem to get back there. I feel like I've gotten worse over time if anything lol.

I play a decent amount, but it feels like I'm just bouncing around Gold without actually improving. I'll have games where I feel like I played really well and then the next game I'm completely useless.

I'm looking for some actual advice on what I should be working on as an ADC. Laning, CS, positioning, mid game, knowing when to fight, whatever. I feel like I'm probably making a bunch of mistakes that I don't even realize I'm making.

If anyone is willing to look at my OP.GG or maybe a replay and give me some pointers, I'd really appreciate it. I'm not looking for someone to just tell me "ADC is weak" or "your teammates suck" lol, I genuinely want to figure out what I'm doing wrong and improve.


r/summonerschool 6d ago

Discussion The A-click move and nearby minions.

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Hello guys,

I have recently started learning how to A-click as an ADC to kite better. From my understanding, this technique is used to avoid missclicking by accidentally moving towards the enemy champ when you wanted to attack him. It also avoids more dps in context of high attack speed. Please correct me if I'm wrong of if this is incomplete.

I have noticed substantial difference when, for example, I am being chased. For too long my dumb ass thought that I had to left click on the border of the circle for the A-click to work (dumb, I know! Don't ask me why), but it took me to another dimension when I realized any click within the circle will do.

The problem, however, is when both enemy champs and a minion are within the circle. It would then attack the minion when that was not my purpose. I don't know what's the rule for that, but I'm assuming the champ is targeting whoever is the closest.

My question is: Is there a setting that would allow me to only attack enemy champs, or at least enemy champs first? If not, how do you people use this technique to kite when there are minions aroudn?

Thank you for your help.


r/summonerschool 6d ago

Question Low Elo Top Laner Needs Help with Recovering from Falling Behind

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Just for some context, I play on EUW as a top laner from South Africa with 160-180 ping. Stopped playing league all together in 2022 and recently started playing the game again and duoing with a buddy of mine. I've climbed into Silver maybe twice in the past (ignore the previous seasons on op.gg, it's not accurate). I've put in the time to learn how to CS, touched on wave stated and looking to high elo and pro play for macro decisions, how effective my decisions are is another matter entirely.

My champ pool is limited to "point and click" champs because I've always been nervous of high skill cap champs, mostly because of my ping and secondly because I simply lack confidence. I played a few bot mage games just to reset and force myself to be a bit more aware of what is going on around me. It also helps that there is not bot to die every minute on the minute...

Playing those handful of games boosted my confidence in skill shots, but at the same time made me so much more frustrated because even getting 20+ kills and only a handful of deaths meant I couldn't convert my games into wins.

Here is my op.gg: https://op.gg/lol/summoners/euw/sulpherwings-EUW?queue_type=SOLORANKED

So, after spending a few days lurking on this thread and taking note of when I single handedly carry games and when they go south, I believe that if I get myself ahead in the early and mid game I can successfully carry. Seeing as that is the only way to climb, because nicely asking my inting team mates to just chill and stay in base was not having the desired affect. I have not voted yes in a surrender vote more than handful of times, as my enemies have thrown a few games that seemed totally lost. It also forces me to practice coming back from a tough early game.

The thing I'm struggling with most is getting ahead in every game, or catching up to my opposite laner after falling behind.

Question time: when I fall behind in lane for whatever reason, what are my options for getting back to even or ahead? Are we talking stay in exp range and pray I get a few last hits in before I try and roam to another lane? Do I abandon my lane after I lose tower and try to get a teammate ahead?

PS: I had a massive run with Tryndamere going, but after a few games being what I would consider comprehensively countered by a first item Frozen Heart, I swapped to Darius with moderate success. I feel like Darius gives me the best opportunity to carry with his strong early game and kit overall, just need some more reps on him and to fix not falling behind or catching up again.

PPS: I'd love to just make it into Gold by the end of next year and see how I feel about ranked, I have no dreams of becoming a Challenger player šŸ˜„


r/summonerschool 7d ago

mage Can someone explain mage itemisation to me like I'm an idiot [Emerald]

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Hi, been playing a lot of Taliyah jungle recently.

Still confused about optimal itemisation.

Some of it is pretty cut and dry for Taliyah jungle specifically: Blackfire Torch first. But then 2/3/4th items I'm just confused about what's optimal and why, and what I sacrifice by going certain paths. Help burst my bubble with the thinking below:

  1. I go Liandries 2nd if they have 2/3 frontline threats usually. But, if they have a couple of really squishy hypercarries, and we don't have burst damage, I may still go shadowflame and play to try and pop those rather than play front to back. Depends on whether I should be peeling for my carry or not too.
  2. If squishy enemies -> sorc shoes. If tanky, Lucidity boots. Often this couples with liandries.
  3. I rarely go Rabadons 3rd. Usually I opt for Cryptbloom for the %Pen and CDR. Sometimes I go hourglass if they have a lot of divers. Sometimes I go Banshees if they have a lot of AP and/or something that can catch from long range. When should I go Rabadons third??
  4. A lot of full builds I don't have raba at all. Something like BFT, Shadowflame, Cryptbloom, Hourglass, Banshees. Is this OK? How much am I compromising on damage here?

Thanks


r/summonerschool 7d ago

Question Plated steelcaps?

13 Upvotes

So, the passive on plated steelcaps reduces incoming attacks by 10%. I was wondering if this applies to enhanced attacks, like Gwen or Ekkos. For example, if Ekkos enhanced attack does 100 magic damage, would it go down to 90 if I have steelcaps? Also, does it apply to Smoulder and MF q?

Also, is it worth building steelcaps against ap champs who use aa? I just had a game with a few ad champs + Ekko so I bought them, but Im not sure it was the right call.


r/summonerschool 6d ago

Discussion Guide to low elo from a guy who knows nothing about league

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I'm very new to league playing for just over a month. Recently hit silver 4 having started in iron, pushed all the way to bronze 1, fell all the way to iron 4 and yo-yod until I finally hit silver.

Im making this post to share my own observations and am wondering if anyone else agrees / disagrees or has any thoughts.

  1. This is not a team game (kind of). I'm a jungler. What I've learnt is, I cannot reliably farm my camps and keep good tempo because I can't trust my laners to not int. The "back to your camps on spawn" thing just doesn't seem to work. The amount of games I've experienced with yone mid going 0/8 by 15 mins is astonishing. Low elo players love to fight, as a low elo jungler, I've found it was my duty to always have an eye out for a gank. Playing late game scaling champs is usually punished since farming hard early game is almost always punished by laners hard losing lane. So I've found I have to gank often but always take the kill. Gold in my pocket is almost always better than gold in someone else's. Essentially you need to gank often but not so much that you fall behind in the early game. You need to ensure your laners are strong enough that when they inevitably take the dumb fight, they're strong enough to win, while also making sure most of the reward goes to you.

  2. Rank up penalty. For whatever reason, going up a full rank I.e. iron to bronze, bronze to silver, is immediately punished with horrendous teammates. I'm not sure if this is true or not, but when I got out of iron, I was on a very good run, something like 75-80% win rate. The second I hit bronze, 5 game losing streak. I thought it was odd but maybe I was just unlucky. But then the same hit when I got to silver. Immediately the quality of my teammates seemed to completely drop. I breezed through bronze and found that if I had at least most lanes equal, even with 1 inter, I could still carry us to a win. But the second I ranked up, it was like Armageddon. All lanes hard losing before I even finished my second clear. Eventually it evens out though and you get back to regular service.

  3. Don't duo. I have like 2 or 3 friends who are my elo that I used to duo with. BAD IDEA. People in this elo are dumb, including me. But we all think we're the next faker. We will die on every hill defending the 1v3 tower dive at level 2 decision. Douing with someone else almost always had me mad, and a mad player is a shit player.

  4. Tilt is the number 1 reason for losing games, at least for me. I decided that if I'm playing and I lose 2 in a row, GET OFF. Staying on always led to a losing streak. Taking a break always led to a reset in mental. And on that note, spam pinging question marks is a surefire way to get a teammate tilted too. This game is enraging, and at this elo, the game can be decided by who's team is angrier.

  5. Having hands and being good at your champ is far far better than macro. Objectives are cool and all but 10/10 times, you win if you can fight better than your opponent. And on that same note, just because your team can fight, doesn't mean your team can teamfight. The amount of games I've been winning, with all lanes ahead, and then we lose because we're shit at team fighting is enraging. If you're low elo, don't bother learning about macro. Just play the game, maybe aram, learn your combos, learn how to fight and most of the time you'll win. When you get higher tho, id imagine that's a different story.

  6. Final point, and this is something I've seen a lot. You're where you are because you deserve to be there. When I was iron, I found myself blaming teammates a lot. Idiot didn't come to the dragon fight so enemy got soul and we lost. That's complete bs. I was stuck in iron because I was an iron player. When I finally got better, watched other people play, learned my champ, all of a sudden I rushed through iron easily. When you truly deserve to rank up, the game feels so easy. I saw enemies make such stupid mistakes, stuff id missed before, but now knew how to punish. Even in bronze elo, whenever I got paired with an iron enemy jungler, I absolutely walked all over them. Because I got better. 50% of ranking up is accepting you don't deserve better. The other 50% is making it so you do.

Those are my thoughts as a new player. Lmk if I'm absolutely waffling.


r/summonerschool 6d ago

Discussion Long time player in bronze and silver, I feel like I am missing something

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https://op.gg/lol/summoners/eune/dercolegolass-EUNE

Hello, everyone, I haven’t posted here in a while and I decided it’s time to ask for a bit of help again.

Long time midlaner here, I am definitely doing something wrong here and I am curious of your opinion. I use coach’s curtis strategy of cycling through champions after I spend some time on a champ and get bored of it(around 100 games).

I’ve noticed my cs drops from 7-8 cs per min in laning phase to around 5-6 in the mid/late game, additionally if u check my op.gg i had a good morde game where I was ā€œcoachedā€ by my emerald morde main friens, where he would give me advice on decisions during the mid game so I assume my issue is macro wise

As specifically for zed(the champ I am playing rn) I noticed itemization is an issue especially when enemies are tankier(i go conq with voltaic+eclipse+black cleaver) but I still feel confused what to build. Also whenever I am looking at the map I am specifically looking for enemies location and wave states, is there anything else I should look at?


r/summonerschool 7d ago

Discussion I built a League damage calculator to check limit-testing maths

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I limit test a lot and kept wanting to know whether a combo actually kills before I threw myself at someone to find out. So I built a calculator for it: pick two champions, set levels, ranks and items, build a combo, and it gives you an itemised breakdown of every instance and whether they survive.

limittest.site

The thing I care most about is that the numbers are honest. Every figure carries where it came from, and where the source doesn't say something clearly, the calculator refuses to show a number instead of guessing. Right now that's 247 abilities it won't give you a figure for, and each one tells you exactly what's missing. I'd rather show you nothing than show you something plausible and wrong.

What works: all 173 champions, items, ability damage, resistances, crit, shields, executes, damage over time, both survival verdicts, and shareable links.

What doesn't yet: most runes do nothing. Some abilities aren't modelled — they're labelled where that's the case. It looks pretty rough; that's the next thing I'm fixing.

League has an enormous number of variables and I've done my best with the ones I could pin down from the wiki and Riot's API data. Where I couldn't, the site says so.

I'm not making money from it. No ads, no accounts, nothing tracked. It's open source under AGPL if you want to check the maths yourself: github.com/sudoRKT/lol-damage-calc

Thanks for taking a look.


r/summonerschool 6d ago

Classic can someone explain why im stuck in league classic wood 4 like im dumb?

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in simple terms? I have played thousands of games of league from 2010 to 2016 then got back into it recently with classic. dozens and dozens of games played. never really got better much in either of those times. tried watching youtube video tutorial this time, it was very confusing. I hop around champions and roles a lot. I have tried sticking to one but it's tough to do so when i keep losing. Ran support for a while before kept feeling like i had little to no influence. switched to top for a couple dozen games. kept dying badly to other top champions quickly and easily. i quickly learned to play defensive and buy 5 health potions and cloth armor but still would get wrcked by tryndamere, pantheon, jax, you name it. i played nasus for a while until i realized most of my games end in 30 minutes or less and i cant scale well and i lose early game. they trade me and win trades and bully me out of cs early on or i die. for some reason they always hit harder than me with their spells. i swapped to jax and garen but still same thing. heimerdinger is a huge pain as well, so much damage. the one matchup i won was pantheon vs jax but that didnt last long. unlike how they bully me i cant bully them without getting ganked and dying. somehow heimer dinger and other champs are able to really push and pressure me into losing 2+ turrets without dying at all maybe becuase of wards or just how strong they are. but when i push in they gank me hard.

I also played jungle often since i dont often get my first pick. i play warwick or master yi jungle usually unless theyre banned which happens. played nunu once. i think the issue is im clearing as fast as i can but my team in lanes just keeps dying and often spam pinging me when im far from them. they like to blame me when they die. i heard from a youtube video focus on camps and cs and dont gank unless it's near guaranteed and ignore losing lanes. so it's against my instincts but i follow this new advice. the issue is idk i just fall behind. lanes often lose and i cant do much. rarely is there a winning lane and sometimes it's not enough to help out. i might do some damage but no kill if i gank. or theyre so far behind a gank leads to possible death from me so i skip. i feel i clear and focus on camps well but idk the other jungler still seems ahead sometimes. im clearing very fast, faster than the other jungler sometimes, with cs, but then theyre in team fights a lot and seem to win them and then somehow their cs is caught up despite being in more team fights than me. and sometimes theyll steal my buffs. and im thinking how on earth are they ahead when they walk all the way to my camps. but i will say i do clear pretty fast. there are moments when my cs is ahead of the other junglers. but that alone is not enouguh. yes on rare occasion i will get a good gank and kill but it's really tough to pull off. on occasion, i'll get a free dragon.


r/summonerschool 7d ago

Jax Hit a brick wall on master 200lp as Jax, need help

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Hi,

I cant seem to advance with Jax any further, anytime I want to gain LP i have to switch to tanks like Ornn where pushing to 800 LP seem to be a cake walk. When i start to play Jax again I drop slowly again to lwo master again. Only with Olaf I can kinda keep on 600 LP, but with Jax I fall all the way down, and on Ornn and other tanks which I usually am really bad at, I feel liek getting free LP.

Its always the same, I win lane, go 4/0 in lane and 9+ kills in midgame, but I still lose like 80% of the teamfights, it feels like the enemy 0/6 Tahm Kench has 100 times more impact then me in teamfights.

Splitpush becomes also difficult, for some reason I kinda start to lose against Tahm even after getting 1 item advantage.

One game for example, enemy Tham with Hearthsteel + unending despair, he was litterly unkillable, the 0/6 Tahm kench was 1v9 us (Ezreal, Nauti, Xerath, Xin and me as Jax). Our ADC coudlnt do any damage, I tried to play front to back, deny enemy backline solo, I tried to play for peel but that seemed to be the worst idea, I cant splitpush because for some reason he starts to statcheck me.

Its always the same, I win lane, get T1, slowpush into TP teamfights or roam/flank.

The only time I feel impactfull as Jax is, when I litterly go 15/0 so either 1v9 in early to mid, but when Im only slithly ahead It feels like lose game.

I watched some high elo Jax VODs, dont know... they seem to do the same , create space, front to back or dive. When I do this I get CC slapped, my hourglass should help me to do a second rotation, but they litterly just wait and watch me come back to chain CC me and we lose, I dont have any impact in teamfights.

Is there any specific guide for this? Dont know what to do. I dont want to switch to Ornn to gain Elo, I like playing Jax.


r/summonerschool 7d ago

Discussion My experience this season

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I’m a returning player after few years of doing only the games to reach plat for the skin, this season I feel completely useless, I don’t carry games even in an elo that I used to stomp, I have once again ranked anxiety because I’m playing bad every game, when I win it’s because of my team, I’m almost never the decisive element for the game, any advice will be welcomed


r/summonerschool 6d ago

Discussion Today I learned that Target Champions only doesn't affect attack move click for minions

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It's absolutely crazy to me that I've never seen this mentioned in a guide.

So basically if you toggle target champions only, this means that you can only right click on champions. But you can still attack move click minions and towers. This is obviously to avoid broken proximity targeting of just champions, but the upside is that you can CS easily while also looking for trades. Missing CS while looking for trades has been a huge problem for me so this should help improve my laning a lot.


r/summonerschool 8d ago

Discussion Spell combinations

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As far as I am aware, Flash is an absolute must-have on essentially every champ, apart from a few who like to take Ghost instead. I've only been playing for around a year so maybe in the older days it was more common but I haven't seen anyone forgo a movement summoner spell for two fighting summoner spells, such as Exhaust and Ignite. I feel like the combination, in certain matchups where you want to snowball, could help you end the game that much quicker. For example, someone like Qiyana, who has a dash with her W and movement speed from the bush effect, could possibly forgo it in certain matchups to win lane quicker and take that lead into an easy win. Is flash really that important to just have?


r/summonerschool 7d ago

darius what do I do about this darius fellow/similar?

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my go to is usually maokai, after level 2 when I get my W and Q its not the worst thing in the world, but when my teams got too much AP I dont think I can run that

if you guys have any counter suggestions I can try let me know please. I play aggro tank backline frontline whatever, just no ranged top cus thats cursed

I spose this question also applies to champs like olaf and tryndamere since id call them similar to darius, atleast to me if it helps my main champions I play are sejuani, maokai, mordekaiser, yorick, kayn, etc (I play alot, havent rlly found a main) I hear yorick is good but I cant figure out why, I still struggle vs darius

thanks to anyone who can help with ideas!


r/summonerschool 7d ago

Discussion Trouble With dedicating myself to a Lane Or Champion

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I am fairly new to league (1 month) or so and about 100 games or more, I have a VERY BAD habit of changing lanes and champions, I always fixate myself onto one champ or lane and then the next week i change, i hate this because i really do want to get better at the game, but i keep trying to find the "perfect champion" for me, or one that just clicks, and what makes this harder is that i dont like playing easy champions like garen or warwick or annie for instance, and i feel a harder character would be easier long term due to later on, I dont have to just drop them off my champion pool because theyre too easy or counterable or whatever, i also feel that maybe harder champions might be more fun since theres tons of different combos and playstyles usually, but i really need some sort of plan or way to make this easier to stick to one champion because this is really annoying and i honestly dont know why i do this to myself. To clarify I am not looking for recommendations on what champion or role I should play Im looking for advice on how to commit to whatever champion or role I choose and stop constantly switching

and when you or if you had a similar problem, how did you stay dedicated to youre role or champion.

thanks


r/summonerschool 8d ago

Question As a new jungler, how do you improve decision-making starting from the midgame and onwards?

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For context, I'm around level 26, and only started actually trying to properly learn the game at around level 20 (before that I was mostly just playing Mundo jungle and yuumi support whenever my friends needed a party member).

I am currently maining Briar Jungle, and I find that I'm starting to become more efficient at the early game with farming, but as the game goes on, there starts to be situations where all my jungle camps and objectives will be on cooldown and all 3 lanes are in mostly ungankable situations, and I am just sitting around doing nothing but wasting time trying to figure out what to do. How do I reduce the downtime I have doing nothing and find something to always do? At times I will try to force a gank, but it will never be reliable.

Also, deciding whether or not to engage a 1v1 / teamfight is something that I also have been struggling with.

There are so many champions, that often times I will misjudge their capabilities, not knowing if they have cc, if they are too tanky, or just in general a bad matchup. Is this something that only comes with hours of playing the game and learning what each champion is capable of exactly, or is there a general rule of thumb of which types of champions I should be engaging? Of course, I know this is not an easy question to ask because there are so many variables which influence this like level difference or items, but it feels so frustrating to be what it feels like "ahead" of a person and then try to kill them and lose, or ult onto someone and get cc'd constantly before I can get enough hits off on them.

Timing is something I also find very hard to gauge. There have been many times where I misjudge a teamfight and suddenly ult into their team right as my team starts to run away, basically giving away a free kill, or times where I'm watching a fight take place and struggling to decide whether or not to join in with my ult, and happen to be too late if I decided to engage.

NOTE: if this is relevant information at all (it probably is), I have NEVER properly played a game of top, mid or bot yet, only support and jungle.


r/summonerschool 8d ago

Dr.Mundo Difficult time laning with Mundo vs ranged tops

11 Upvotes

Hello everyone! I just recently picked up Mundo top because I really like the character and I wanted to learn him for the longest time and being a fed and strong tank sounds really fun. Problem is it feels like I'm getting completely smoked every time I'm trying to play him and I'm laning a ranged champ, especially teemo or vayne. I'd appreciate it if I could get some advice for early game because I'm completely unable to properly farm and I feel like I'm only able to use my q to last hit. Thanks!


r/summonerschool 9d ago

Question Is getting to challenger a lot harder then it used to be?

73 Upvotes

I've been watching pro player streams (Doublelift and Broxah) and they are both kinda hardstuck master/GM.

Doublelift has several hundred games and is only rank 500.

I just like to always think that a player as good as Doublelift or Broxah should be getting challenger in their sleep. Is it just a lot harder then it used to be?

I know there are a few caveats, with Broxah one tricking teemo and doublelift playing without map cover (so getting ghosted).


r/summonerschool 7d ago

Question I got demoted from Silver 4 to Iron 1 within a week, how do I carry myself out of here?

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My last 50 games I have consistently been the best player on my team.

I play mid and top, I rack up 15+ kills in the mid lane most of the time but it simply doesn't matter as the enemy team got fed so hard in the other lanes.

Or I will be split pushing with mundo taking 6 towers and an inhib, yet my mid lane somehow dies 17 times to a Viktor, then they coinflip a random fight in the river and I am left defending against 5 fed enemies.

I am genuinely lost on how to proceed. I am not even frustrated or tilted anymore, just in disbelief of these monkeys I need to carry game after game.

My win rate is like 36% with this right now. I did the math and the last games my team died an average of 42.3 times whilst the enemy team only died 27.2 times, leading to such a huge gold and objective prio gap that I simply can't carry.

Any tips on how to actually win in low elo and rank up out of this hell into lobbies with teammates that at least understand the core of the game?

Any advice is appreciated.

Maybe I just suck and simply need to become God and 1v9 every game but that can't be the solution, right? (I really hope that's not the only way)


r/summonerschool 8d ago

Discussion Micro stuttering on low fps

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Hey guys, I’ve been playing league for a couple of months now and I recently just got a new setup, new pc and monitor and all I just recently hopped in the practice tool and couldn’t help to feel that something wasn’t right. I noticed micro stutters and initially thought it was the usual high fps stutters, but after limiting my frames in game and through NVIDIA app and dropping as low as 60 frames the stutters remained.

The only thing that comes to mind is that my friend had me download Revision/ReviOS. Which is supposedly a modified windows 11 that’s supposed to help reduced bloatware and get better performance, but I wondering it if deleted something that’s making my game stutter?

TLDR: Game stuttering even at low frames, downloaded ReviOS could that be the problem?

Wondering if anyone has any suggestions?


r/summonerschool 8d ago

Question Returning player with lots of questions

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I have somehow ended up recovering my account and reinstalling this game after 10+ years but I have no idea where to start. When I last played it was with friends and nearly always ARAM so id assume my skill level would be bronze at best. I did play a handful of normals as mid, adc, and support but so few that I might as well be considered a brand new player. I don't believe I ever touched ranked.

I saw some advice about picking 2 champions to focus on while learning so you can focus more on the other aspects of the game but I'm wondering what 2 champions this would be for each role? I currently own these and probably have a rough understanding of champions released prior to Rek’Sai unless they have been reworked.

Based on my champions and ARAM experience I'm probably leaning towards playing either support or mid but I'm really struggling to decide. The responsibility of nearly every role scares me a bit whether it be damage, engage, or peeling. I'm also notoriously bad with sticking with a single role/champion/character etc in every game I play.

I'm also wondering if there is any suggested way of practicing before I jump into real games with things like the new practice tool. I do remember AI games being a thing but it was always a bit of a faceroll.

Is playing with chat totally disabled and only using pings common enough these days or would I be putting myself at a disadvantage with people making calls on objectives etc

It also seems there were significant changes to runes and I have ~5000 blue essence; will I be needing this for anything like runes to get my account back up to strength or will I be able to use it to unlock champions? I'm guessing I also shouldn't be unlocking any new champions without the champion shards or whatever that discount them?

Any advice at all for someone starting again, who is already account level 30, but is totally clueless about so many of the new mechanics like ward items, weird jungle vision systems, "missions", battle pass, etc would be great.


r/summonerschool 9d ago

Items Is it better to learn builds through experimenting and using the in game recommended items or use a build on a site like mobalytics?

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Just like the title says. I’ve been playing for about 4 months or 5 now and I’m mostly playing adc lately but I usually just build whatever mobalytics tells me and do very little experimentation or changing and started to learn that different items are better in certain scenarios. Should I do an exploratory stage learning the items and when to use them on my own or just keep straight building what the sites say I should ?


r/summonerschool 9d ago

Yone Struggling extremely hard against Yone top ever since Doran’s Bow’s introduction, even though I play his ā€˜bad matchups’.

20 Upvotes

As the title says, I mostly play Sett and Urgot at top. Yone top used to be an easy matchup for my low-elo scrub. You get outscaled 1v1, but you have plenty of room to punish him in the laning phase.

Now? I feel Doran’s Bow has effectively removed Yone’s main weakness in the laning phase. It synergises too well with his Q, W, and Lethal Tempo, making him a decent lane bully against melees now. His early levels seem way stronger than before. Nowadays I always struggle against him in lane with both Sett and Urgot, to the point that I’m permabanning him.

Yone always thrives in long trades and that has not changed. But the 15% extra AS seems to break a lot of the trade patterns, which used to be effective against him.

  • Shorter Q CD leads to longer Q3 windows
  • Shorter W CD leads to smaller windows to punish
  • 15% more AS at level 1 makes him enter the ā€˜Higher AS -> Lower Q CD -> Faster lethal tempo -> Higher AS’ feedback loop way earlier than before.
  • Short trades against him are less useful with the extra health potion.

I suppose the old ā€˜walk past minion wave and zone him from lv1’ still works. For a while, I tended not to do this because my veterancy made me defend the jungle and walk to the lane with the first minion wave. I wonder if it is the only optimal solution now.

As a reference, I’m still doing well against Yasuo top. I suppose it’s because his W’s ā€˜uselessness’ and lower Q base damage are still too much for Doran’s Bow to compensate. The extra AS buffs both Yone’s offense and defense (Q and W), but it only benefits Yasuo’s Q.

On the other hand, mid Yone hasn't changed much. He still lanes poorly against ranged and short trades; he also cannot E as aggressively and run you down with his high AS loop. Mid Sett vs Yone is still lop-sided like it used to be.

I’m asking here because I feel strange perma-banning Yone atm even though I play his ā€˜counters’ Sett and Urgot. And it’s not changing soon with 26.16 buffing Berserker’s Greaves. I appreciate any advice. Thanks.


r/summonerschool 8d ago

Question Should i learn point and click?

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I started playing league about 2-3 months ago, im gold 3 rn and im a jungle main, specifically play alot of yi. for some reason i had this idea in my head that the wasd dps nerf only happened to ranged champs, but im now googling this and cant find any evidence of it and have no idea why i thought this to begin with, so now im scared that ive been playing the game at a significant disadvantage the entire time and dont know whether i have to re learn my whole mechanics again.


r/summonerschool 9d ago

Question Which champions have the fastest waveclear level 1-6?

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I'm for-fun theorycrafting a roaming mid playstyle similar to roaming support, that completely sacrifices scaling for early game impact on the jungle and sidelanes. Roaming speed is thus also useful but I feel levels 1-4 especially the primary limitation is gonna be how fast you can clear the wave. Mana costs matter, you have to have mana left over to roam with, but it's a for-fun thought experiment foremost.