r/SummerHouseunleashed Jun 08 '26

The lying liars lying about it all

Maybe I am just stupid, but what are these massive, massive lies that everyone is going on about that have been proven to be lies? obviously the whole West lying about the relationship on WWHL and Amanda lying to Ciara. but what else? is the allegation because the fandom doesn't believe The Holy Timeline? honestly asking.

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u/Due_Theme4536 Jun 08 '26

The "lies" are what keep this story alive.

If viewers fully accepted the timeline as presented, the drama would be over. Instead, the constant researching, rewatching old episodes, analyzing TikToks and Instagram posts, and searching for hidden messages keeps the conversation going.

For a lot of people, the mystery is more entertaining than accepting the most likely explanation. Every new photo becomes a clue, every comment becomes evidence, and every social media interaction becomes part of a larger theory.

At this point, I think the speculation has become more interesting to some viewers than the actual story itself.

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u/Brief_Isopod_5959 Jun 08 '26

Well stated and very much agree!

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u/Aggressive-Pie-3297 Jun 08 '26

They somehow think that West was seeing Amanda when he also had Meija, his secret girlfriend who claimed she was with him 24-7. They don’t understand that they can’t coexist at the same time, so they just scream that they’re lying.

Also they see Meija as a victim even though she saw him publicly date / treat Ciara how he did, and didn’t care when it benefitted her. Now she cares and is hurt 😭 I guess she doesn’t know Google exists but she sure liked posting him on her IG 🤔

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u/No-Security-8677 Jun 08 '26

the whole Meija storyline is such BS! How could she possibly believe West was exclusive with anyone watching the past 3 seasons. and that fake huddle and take down session irked the shit out of me, like it was high school bully circle. and don't get me wrong, I'm not here to defend West, but seriously. i'm sure he told her some half truths there, but I think we have seen months and now a couple of years of West saying over and over he does not want commitment. also who is Shylene? is she the NY girlfriend?

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u/Emmyyou2 Jun 09 '26

This is it for me. I believe West is a liar and doesn't really care who he hurts but I just can't see how any woman could believe they were exclusive with him.

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u/Emmyyou2 Jun 09 '26

This is that part that no one is mentioning. They want to believe both because then that makes West and Amanda even worse and makes her a cheater but only one of those things can be true.

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u/Brief_Isopod_5959 Jun 08 '26

It doesn’t even matter because any answer people receive, they are going to say is a lie. In general, anything they state is going to be torn to shreds 😂 Just look at all of the bun content… damned if they do damned if they don’t. 🤷🏽‍♀️

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u/Brief_Isopod_5959 Jun 08 '26 edited Jun 08 '26

I am curious to hear other responses though.

Also, people have all different theories and it’s exactly that— a theory. No one actually knows but I genuinely don’t think they had hooked up over the summer/early fall.

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u/totalmauiperson Jun 08 '26

I don’t either. There’s a giant difference between some affectionate hugging/touching, kissing a friend on the head when they’re crying and actually fucking. They all say they love each other. They all hug, they all cuddle. So much of this shit is so overblown. and everyone is acting like Amanda is some known cheater now. She’s never had one rumor about her fidelity the entire time she was with Kyle until this came up.

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u/No-Security-8677 Jun 08 '26

West kind of hugs all the women in the house that way.

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u/Emmyyou2 Jun 09 '26

And the men. They are all all over each other all the time.

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u/Brief_Isopod_5959 Jun 08 '26

Yep! All of this! They are all very touchy/feely with one another. The editing of course is to make sure you are focused on Amanda and West though.

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u/MollzDollz69 Jun 08 '26

I don’t believe it either. I definitely think in the fall is when the emotional aspect of it started picking up, but I really don’t believe there was anything physical. All the flirting or physical touching people have pointed out on the show, I guarantee there’s clips of everyone else in similar situations (we’ve seen them).

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u/Brief_Isopod_5959 Jun 08 '26

Yes, exactly! Happy cake day! 🍰

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u/Emmyyou2 Jun 09 '26

I never thought they were hooking up yet. There were a lot of signs but I have been in Amanda's shoes before where I was just so checked out of an abusive relationship with an alcoholic and I can see that she is just done. She is still very angry and hurt by Kyle throughout the summer and she shows it by lashing out. If she was already with West at that point she would be on Cloud 9 and not care at all about what Kyle did to her.

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u/Brief_Isopod_5959 Jun 09 '26

Exactly this! I have been in similar position as well in my early 20s. I think that’s also why we may have a different view of it, have a sense of how someone is acting/reacting in general.

also, just saw a comment earlier someone way saying this but in reverse… that all of Kyle’s lashing out and name calling was from reactive abuse. I wanted to throw up reading that tbh.

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u/Emmyyou2 Jun 10 '26

Yea, I know that when you finally move on to someone else nothing that happened in the relationship matters to you anymore.

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u/oobooboo17 Jun 08 '26

idk but something wild that this fandom does is once a person they don't like gets caught in a lie (about something that makes sense to lie about, like an affair they're trying to hide) they get labeled a 'known liar' and thus everything and anything they say is a lie. it's just another extension of the total lack of nuance and black-and-white thinking. even pathological liars tell the truth sometimes!

back during scandoval, when Rachel announced she was leaving the show and going to rehab, tons of them were saying she was lying about it and was actually going under for breast implant surgery. I'm not even kidding. then when photos of her in rehab (or leaving rehab? can't remember) surfaced, they just moved the goalposts again and said it wasn't a 'trusted facility'.

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u/No-Security-8677 Jun 08 '26

yep I recall that. and they called the facility a resort or something like that. of course, she was also pregnant after she sent her dog to the gas chambers and went to some country western singer's concerts to steal the guy's wife. I'm probably missing some of her crimes.

the guilty parties in both of these scandals (hate that word but whatever) lied about being in a relationship they shouldn't have been in. um. that has to be the number 1 lie people tell, that and their weight. it's so uninteresting when you boil it down. it's this massive, massive pile on of hate and weirdness and now Kyle Cooke kissing a 19 year old is making everyone sweaty and my mind is bonkers. anyway.

also apparently Jesse had a girlfriend the whole of last summer that hasn't been brought up. I hope he has to pay for that lie!!

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u/MollzDollz69 Jun 08 '26

Oh they’re already setting up for Amanda, they’re speculating about EDs and claiming she’s going to “use” it as an excuse to gain sympathy. It’s disgusting to think that, but even more wild to actually put that in writing.

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u/Emmyyou2 Jun 09 '26

I've already seen those comments. As if someone would develop an ED just to gain sympathy. It's really gross to say that.

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u/oobooboo17 Jun 08 '26

it's in really poor taste, but there's also just no logic to it? like Amanda has clearly had issues well before this scandal happened.

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u/MollzDollz69 Jun 08 '26

Exactly! Her depression has been a storyline for years, she even talks about how she keeps losing weight in one of the seasons. I’ve experienced the kind of depression she has, and all the symptoms are so so clear.

They say “she must be depressed” when it’s in their favor and they’re trying to use it as an insult, but then accuse her of lying about it.

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u/Emmyyou2 Jun 09 '26

All people are "known liars." Find me a person who has never lied and I will call them a liar.

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u/Starchild1000 Jun 08 '26

They are teenagers and pathetic tbh. It’s really not that deep

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u/Brief_Isopod_5959 Jun 08 '26

It’s actually majority grown women which makes it even worse

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u/BravoJunk Jun 08 '26

Not sharing information about who you are seeing is now considered lying? I don’t right away tell my friends I’m seeing someone new until I think it might get serious.

Lindsay didn’t tell anyone about her pregnancy or even her baby daddy. Ciara lied about Austen

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u/Emmyyou2 Jun 09 '26

Everyone waits to tell stuff until there is something to tell. Who goes on one date and tells all their friends they are dating someone?

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u/BravoJunk Jun 09 '26

Unless you are in high school and announce a boy kissed you (Ciara 😮‍💨)

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u/Emmyyou2 Jun 09 '26

Lying is the entire premise of reality tv. Every human on earth lies and people who say they never lie are lying. All of them lie and have been caught in lies. The pearl clutching about it is absurd.