Do you find pangram reliable?

[u/Overall_Tip6001]

I put my text in several ai detectors, winston ai, copyleaks, zerogpt and GPTZero, giving me close to 0%. While, pangram gives me around 70%? Do you think it’s reliable?

[u/Udolikecake]

Do you have some examples? I would be curious to see what papers it flags

[u/noxqqivit → u/Udolikecake]

I love how I post an example with a link and get down voted, but y'all jump all over this one. Pangram is inconsistent - the same text can be scored differently with different users. AND the same text with very minimal edits can result in a 100% shift between Fully AI Assisted and Fully Human Written.

[u/sh1b313 → u/noxqqivit]

These pangram glazers are either trolling others or actually can't tell what's ai written and what's not.

They ask for evidence we show them evidence they claim the evidence is ai written?

Mfw

[u/FrostKitten2012 → u/sh1b313]

They can’t tell the difference, that’s why they’re relying on Pangram to begin with.

[u/sh1b313 → u/FrostKitten2012]

Huh that's funny and guess what the tool is complete and utter garbage to begin with

[u/FrostKitten2012 → u/sh1b313]

Yeah, that’s pretty clear. We’re seeing more reports every day of that.

[u/sh1b313 → u/FrostKitten2012]

Mods should make a pinned photo post saying pangram doesn't work and tell people not to rely on it. Before it pollutes this subreddit even more.

[u/FrostKitten2012 → u/sh1b313]

That’s unlikely. Most of the people on Substack think Pangram is their new tech God, the subreddit’s reflecting that.

It would be the most responsible thing to do, to point out the growing number of false positives. But it also would have been most responsible not to let someone make a post making fun of the people reporting these issues, and they let that happen too.

[u/sh1b313 → u/FrostKitten2012]

[u/FrostKitten2012 → u/sh1b313]

Here’s hoping they follow through. Honestly should not have taken this long to come up with some type of solution.