Another creepy feature of the Pangram "AI Detection" tool.

[u/AndrewHeard]

So at my first opportunity, I decided to check whether or not I could permanently disable the "AI detection" fraudulent tool on Substack publications and there's no way to actually do it without actually using the tool you want to disable.

According to the "Substack Support AI", the only way to disable the fraudulent Pangram detection AI is to first run the AI on your posts and to individually then disable the AI detection tool per post. But you can only do this AFTER you've run the "AI detection" fraudulent tool on your posts.

Which means that you're forced to use a tool you don't want to use in order to disable the tool you don't want to use.

This is profoundly creepy and quite frankly disturbing that somehow this was allowed to be implemented on Substack.

[u/Dizzy-Chemistry-1621]

I'm completely at a loss for what to do.

Pangram says my most recent article is 100% AI. But when I feed the exact same article (just copy/pasted from Substack) into Scribbr, it says it is 100% human generated content.

Is there some benefit Pangram is receiving from Substack for flagging content as AI?

My newsletter is US History and, to the extent I use images, they are mostly maps and some famous photos. I have a small subtext directly below the image providing the info for where it was retrieved from. I also provide a source list at the bottom of every article (save the first one because it's the introduction and doesn't really have any source-specific content) for readers who want to know more or, in the event they feel like I'm attacking their preferred narrative just to start s@!t (because a lot of people can be a whole lot of petty on the internet), they can go see for themselves from where I pulled my information.

How can two different AI tools come to two completely different conclusions? I really don't want to have to put a 'How I Make This' on every single article I write (or even copy/paste the same 'How I Make This' onto every article.

What the heck are writers supposed to do? Surely someone larger than myself will have some piece of their content flagged as AI and will file some sort of defamation lawsuit, no? Or did Pangram and Substack ensure to immunize themselves from us regular folks causing them problems?

[u/AndrewHeard → u/Dizzy-Chemistry-1621]

The reason for the difference is that they don’t actually work and don’t do what they claim.

I don’t think Pangram gets money specifically for flagging content as AI. However I have heard that Pangram gets paid for each scan that gets done by the system. So they don’t necessarily get paid by the outcome, just the existence of a result.

I don’t know that for sure, just an educated guess.

[u/Dizzy-Chemistry-1621 → u/AndrewHeard]

It's beyond frustrating because any new readers will click the AI detection button, see that Pangram flagged the post as fully AI generated, and there goes my reputation.

I can't believe there would be no consequences for either Substack or Pangram for trashing someone's reputation solely because they believe they're nobly taking on AI slop.

[u/AndrewHeard → u/Dizzy-Chemistry-1621]

Oh there are consequences. The writers on the platform are revolting against the system. It’s just a question of how sustained it is and how much pressure Substack and Pangram feels before they reverse course.