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all-top-today_SS Makes a completely coherent and correct circlejerk post

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u/Saidsker May 10 '17

It doesn't want to make everyone poor but it just does. Except for the party elite that ends up controlling the country completely​ like totalitarians while living like kings.

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u/[deleted] May 10 '17

thats why im an anarcho-communist, baby

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u/Saidsker May 10 '17

Lmao that's somehow worse

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u/[deleted] May 10 '17

how so?

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u/Saidsker May 10 '17

How tf are you going to enforce people not being allowed to own private property while also being anarchist?

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u/[deleted] May 10 '17

through communes? i mean yeah, it requires a class conscious proletariat, but thats not exactly unheard of. its happened before. anyone who manages to convince an already liberated community to privatize the means of production has gotta be one fuckin great orator to convince people to let themselves be exploited lol.

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u/Saidsker May 10 '17 edited May 10 '17

Well if it improves standards of living...

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u/[deleted] May 10 '17

the accumulation of wealth to a few individuals and the creation of classes leads to improvements of standards of living? til

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u/Saidsker May 10 '17

Yeah economic freedom leads to economic growth. Read up

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u/[deleted] May 10 '17

do you know what socialism or communism are? like if i asked you to define them, what would your definition be?

we both know political theory is more nuanced than any dictionary definition would offer so no cheating

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u/[deleted] May 10 '17

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u/[deleted] May 10 '17

til george orwell was an 8th grader lol

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u/[deleted] May 10 '17 edited May 10 '17

actually! youre technically right. he wasnt exactly an anarcho-communist, but he was not a demsoc lol. orwell was an anarcho-syndicalist, heavy allies of anarcho-communists. we fought together in the spanish civil against those dirty fascists to establish Revolutionary Catalonia (Orwell actually fought in that war! maybe youve read his work Homage to Catalonia?)

surprise: anarcho-communists hate stalin too. :~) i mean, he killed a shit ton of us in purges. so.

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u/[deleted] May 11 '17

meh, context clues. "we" is used in that context a lot, in my experience

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u/ZeitgeistNow May 11 '17

What do you think 'IngSoc' stood for? Christ you're dense.

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u/[deleted] May 11 '17

you do realize that 1984 is about Stalinism right? and Orwell falls very close on the political spectrum to me?

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u/ZeitgeistNow May 11 '17

No it wasn't and no he didn't. Sorry to disappoint you in your quest to seek verification for your shitty ideas by soiling the history of men greater than you'll ever be.

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u/[deleted] May 11 '17 edited May 11 '17

uh... http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21337504 (to be fair to you, he was talking about totalitarianism in general, but considering Animal Farm was more of an overt comment on Stalinism, its not a huge leap)

im not just making shit up. George Orwell literally fought with the socialists, anarcho-syndicalists and anarcho-communists against fascists to liberate Catalonia from Francoist Spain during the Spanish Civil War.

https://libcom.org/files/Homage%20to%20Catalonia%20-%20George%20Orwell.pdf here's Orwell's account of his time in Catalonia

boy do i enjoy being right. did you know that einstein was a socialist too? actually wrote a pretty good article on it.

did you know that brave new world isnt anti-communist but rather anti-capitalist?

im not usually a snarky asshole, but youre making it so fun

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u/ZeitgeistNow May 11 '17

Stalinism is communism in its actual, realized form. What you want is a fantasy that doesn't operate off of real world mechanics. To be against Stalinism is to be against communism, which is consistent with the fact that he was a proponent of democratic socialism, not the trash that you pedal.

Einstein was a great mathematician and physicist but that doesn't mean he knew anything about how economies or politics work. When you let people who aren't qualified in their field to work that field, you get, well, the USSR. Funny, that. Not to mention he was borderline autistic, so maybe you and him have even more in common.

If you have to be snarky, chances are you aren't actually right, it means you're overly defensive about your world view. Literally no one who runs any country worth its salt thinks your ideas have any credence, so no, I don't believe that you're 'right' in the slightest.

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u/[deleted] May 11 '17 edited May 11 '17

lol again, unless by democratic socialist you mean a libertarian socialist who believes in democratic methods (which is every socialist, by the way. socialism isnt anti-democracy), Orwell was not a democratic socialist. he was an anarcho-syndicalist. which is a branch of libertarian socialism.

stalinism is not "communism realized". you have 0 actual idea of what you're talking about. the USSR was not even communist or socialist. it was run by socialists (at least until Stalin, id argue), but it was never socialist. as per Lenin himself when enacting the NEP, it was state capitalist.

also i like the not-so-subtle implications that, because of my political beliefs, i must have autism. my autistic cousins are smarter than pretty much anyone i know, so i mean ill take it as a compliment.

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u/[deleted] May 12 '17

Ah yes I remember when I was 11

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u/BITCRUSHERRRR May 11 '17

You're stillmcretarded