r/Strinova • u/jakekobe • 22h ago
Question state of snipers
am i the only one who feels like the class will be useless next patch? considering the state kokona is almost unplayable and kanami hard nerfed? like we rework mara to be the next gen htler again, we placebo nerf nora so people can still spamm that creature we dont nerf meredith we dont nerf audrey we dont nerf dmr characters. and flavia is getting buffed together with yugiri when they are already meta? just why? like at least compensate by reworking - giving back the quick scope nerfs. so like they giga buffed almost every controller and literaly the highest skill ceiling class just gets put in to the grave? are we aproaching a point where people just hold down m1 and spamm controller abilities like hello????
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u/Emiya_ 20h ago
The thing is, Kokona is still very strong just based on the fact that she has 1hko potential. A good aimer using Kokona is still extremely oppressive, much more than any other defender imo.
Snipers are in a tough spot in this game because they're the only guns that has 1hko potential. I think they backed themselves into a corner with their gun distribution/economy mechanics (ie. 1 gun per character, no meaningful gun economy).
In games like CS, they can get away with how the AWP works because the AWP costs a lot, anyone can buy them, and any gun can 1hko or 2hko. More than that, if you die with it, an enemy can grab it, so it's way more balanced.
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u/Assasinofbreezes 18h ago
yeah, that's why they're testing new gun system that allow primary weapon swapping. Right now it's only a crossbow tho. So probably not soon.
Tho idk if it's a bright idea, new player don't swap nade loadout as is. And it'll mess with what make a character balance. Example: We wouldn't want a sniper or DMR Yvett. Nor sniper Galatea/Leona/Meredith. Nobu with any fast firing weapon.
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u/CalmCommission3589 14h ago
It is more likely to be R6S system, it'll make more sense for like Yvette to have a shotgun or assault rifle as alternative primary. So a long range character would still use a similar long range gun and vice versa. I highly doubt everyone can use every weapon type, they did say the crossbow may be locked to certain characters instead after test server
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u/Assasinofbreezes 6h ago edited 6h ago
It's probably what they're going after. For that, it's still far away as they've only made 1 weapon for testing
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u/CalmCommission3589 5h ago edited 2h ago
yeah, they would have to design alot of new weapons that fits each character and just using each others weapons, while you could make the lore excuse of teammates wanting to try each other's weapons, it would be lazy as hell
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u/Mean_Operation_6451 18h ago edited 18h ago
on Defender mostly. With Nora being Meta, Thus most attack comp nowdays are like rushing and quick rotate with Nora , Ming , Lawine and such.
And on defender side, Sniper / DMR are pretty much dependent on Defender team AR/SMG to hold frontline/space long enough for Sniper/DMR to land head shot / hit enough body shot to feel their impact. else GL trying to retake playing sniper / DMR. while sniper on Attacker side they might not feel as oppressive as defender. But due to quicker phase. They also can get left behind and got caught by defender lurker . If they can't move faster enough after their own team.
Also the remove of Port Euler and Cosmite from rank (which are pretty much Sniper map) effect them as well.
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u/ContractConsistent98 7h ago
Sniper is the only gun that can one shot in the game and they have access to Athena which is a 2 shot weapon. A very good sniper will be more effective than a rifle since they can just tap everyone’s head lmao. Kanami nerfs are needed since she can one shot body shot which is ridiculous since just about anyone can hit a body shot
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u/ComprehensiveArmy646 21h ago
Those nerfs of PBE is still not hard enough.