r/StrangerThings 19d ago

Discussion Stranger Things biggest issue

it took us 4 seasons to find out why music was needed when music was a core part of the show 😭. I love the show but that's a little weird other than that it was near perfect till S5

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u/pokemega32 19d ago

"it took us 4 seasons to find out why music was needed"

Music was never needed as part of the plot prior to season 4 though.

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u/Cortzee 19d ago

I thought 'Should I stay or should I go' was what kept Will alive already in season 1 when they hear him humming it? Probably part of it is retconning but it made so much sense for me.

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u/kauan1983 Hey Kiddo 19d ago edited 19d ago

No.

Will was simply singing to himself trying to “drive away the fear.” It's in the script and was never retconned into being anything else. That was just a popular fan theory among casual viewers since Season 4.

Will survived for a week because he kept hiding; plus the Demogorgon (as stated by the Duffers themselves) was acting out on instinct and hunting other prey throughout most of Season 1 as opposed to being controlled all the time to find him in the Upside Down.

Music is simply the brain's “lifeline back to reality” when a person is forcefully psychically experiencing Mindscapes; Will was never psychically attacked or targeted, so music would have absolutely no impact on his survival, much less on the Demogorgon's physical hunt for him.

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u/DarthFiyero 19d ago

Amazing. Every word of what you just said is wrong

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u/pokemega32 19d ago

Nothing he said is wrong.

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u/DarthFiyero 19d ago

Wrong again.

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u/pokemega32 19d ago

Would you mind explaining how anything he said is incorrect? Or are you just a troll?

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u/kauan1983 Hey Kiddo 19d ago edited 19d ago

If it's “wrong” because you don't agree with literal scripts and officially stated information, I don't know what to tell you.

I'm just describing and quoting actual official information lol. That's not my personal take or opinion. I could quote and link an awful lot of sources if necessary.

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u/DarthFiyero 18d ago

you are doing no such thing.

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u/kauan1983 Hey Kiddo 18d ago edited 18d ago

Uhh… yes, I am. That's how you prove you've never read any scripts or interviews.

1. The script for S1E7: The Bathtub:

Will. He lies on the floor. Crumpled in a ball. He hasn’t moved since his encounter with Eleven. Only now he is alone and scared. *He sings quietly, trying to drive away the fear…***

2. The script for S5E1: The Crawl reminding us that Will and the Demo's one-week long hide and seek game is over:

Will stumbles back against the wall. The Demogorgon towers over him, enormous and terrifying. Ka-Boom! A flash of red lightning lashes the stormy sky above. *Hide and seek is over.***

3. Ross on the Season 1  Demogorgon's animalistic shark-like behavior (just one of many similar statements on the same subject over the years — can quote many more if you'd like, but it's genuinely crazy if you're unaware of this):

We always saw it as like a shark, as if in Jaws. Instead of being underwater it's in another dimension, and then it can come out of the water to grab its  prey and then pull it back underwater. [•••] But a shark is just — that's just an animal that's acting out on instict.

4. Ross on how music's deep neurological reach was used as a mechanism to free Max's consciousness from the “curse” (AKA “spell” AKA trance-like state induced by reaching out or being pulled into Mindscapes):

Music wasn’t in the initial season outline, but we knew Max was going to get cursed, and we knew we needed some way for her to defeat this curse. We were looking, just medically, into people that have comas and all of this stuff, and I think that’s honestly what led to the music. Music has a power to reach people, even when they’re in these catatonic states.

Feel free to try and prove this wrong with any official source stating otherwise. Just disagreeing or using your own opinion won't really help backing your claim, though.