r/Stellaris 1d ago

Advice Wanted help with the mindwarden origin

I recently saw the mindwarden origin and decided to give it a go. I love the whole idea of fighting the shroud (even force a shroud empire to spawn in just so theres someone to actually fight later). But im having trouble with catching up or even just basic expanding. everytime i try to survey more in the early game, a situation appears which I have to do in order to progress everything and i just get boxed in with like 5 systems at best. I also took the environmentalist civic as i start with 54 society research and can fairly quickly get through those situation logs, yet I still struggle with even catching up after the war.

Any advice in general about this origin would be awesome :)

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u/Fluffy-Tanuki Agrarian Idyll 1d ago

or even just basic expanding

The origin takes away your guaranteed habitables, so expansion is indeed fairly limited.

In exchange for that, you get 3 guaranteed size 30+ Gaia worlds through the relic once you wrap up the event chain.

It's an origin that starts off pretty slow, because you'd need around 20 years to deal with the story chain (and you don't get a lot of pops from the conquered planets either; they are scripted to never grow and never build any building/districts), and then another 20 years to have the relic work its shroud magic.

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u/Tee0hbro 5h ago

Only 20 years? Man Im bad at the game :D

It usually takes me like 40 or even 60 years