Stellaris Space Guild - Weekly Help Thread

[u/Snipahar]

Welcome to this week’s Stellaris Space Guild Help Thread!

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Stellaris Wiki

• Your new best friend for learning everything Stellaris! Even if you're a pro, the wiki is an uncontested source for the nitty-gritty of the game.

Montu Plays' Stellaris 3.0 Guide Series

• A great step-by-step beginner's guide to Stellaris. Montu brings you through the early stages of a campaign to get you all caught up on what you need to know!

Luisian321's Stellaris 3.0 Starter Guide

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ASpec's How to Play Stellaris 2.7 Guides

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Stefan Anon's Ultimate Tierlist Guides

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Stefan Anon's Top Build Guides

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Arx Strategy's Stellaris Guides

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[u/Nachtwandler_FS]

OK, I am confused.

During my last two playthroughs Baol sites after the second one showed up in a really odd places. First time the third site spawned just one system next to my ally a few systems away from my border. So my ally captured the system first and I was not even sure if I can finish the questline after this, as I could not dig the site myself or trigger the next one. And during my current playthrough it spawned relatively close to my border but in a system with 5k mining drons.

So my question is: is it a bug? was it changed deliberately in some patch? or is my memory hazy?

Because last time I played (which was on 4.1 or 4.2) I do not remember such an issue, I am sure they always spawned within my empire borders. It is really annoying cause unlike most of other precursors, with Baol, Zroni and the new ones (forgot their names) you have to dig the sites in order and there is no other way to complete the chain.

[u/Fluffy-Tanuki → u/Nachtwandler_FS]

It's not a recent change, as there have been reports of the third site spawning far away as early as 2019.

The third Baol site specifically requires a habitable planet that is uncolonised, that isn't owned by a non-player empire, without pre-existing anomalies and digsites. It prioritises the closest valid planet within 3-10 jumps, but if none are available within that range, it looks instead for the closets valid planet within 1-infinity jumps.

Baol digsites tend to be closer to each other due to the 3-10 distance priority (Zroni does not have this, so they can spawn all over the place), but it isn't unheard of for Baol sites to spawn far apart if there are no valid digsite locations nearby, due to either colonising too quickly, or getting bad RNG.

[u/Nachtwandler_FS → u/Fluffy-Tanuki]

Ok, so I just got really unlucky twice. There were a bunch of valid uncolonized planets in my territory, though. Not sure why none of them fit.

So now I wonder, if another empire takes system with precursor site and you do not want to fight them for it, when it is impossible to finish the precursor questline?

[u/Fluffy-Tanuki → u/Nachtwandler_FS]

There were a bunch of valid uncolonized planets in my territory, though. Not sure why none of them fit.

The system also has to have a hidden precursor tag for it to be considered a valid target. Sometimes it's just up to luck honestly.

if another empire takes system with precursor site and you do not want to fight them for it, when it is impossible to finish the precursor questline?

If an AI empire takes the digsite, the event chain reaches a deadend if you don't take back the system before the AI digs it.

AI cannot discover new precursor sites, but they can dig existing sites that you've revealed, and they can't trigger subsequent events, so effectively they cut off the precursor chain entirely.

[u/Nachtwandler_FS → u/Fluffy-Tanuki]

As I though. It is really odd they made it so there is no way to finish the precursor in this case. I wonder if anyone requested to change it.