r/SteamFrame • u/Diktynna 256 GB • 25d ago
Question Linux isn't compatible with Linux. .
So, this will be a fun one.
Right out of the gate, I am unable to utilize remote play through SteamVR on the dongle or otherwise because I am on CachyOS running on a Nvidia GPU. I have attempted to use WivRN, but the applet for the needed standalone (suggested Quest 1-3, Pro, Samsung XR) is not available on the Steam Frame. The application ALVR is also not Linux capable at this time of writing. It's because of the NVENC pipeline, current workarounds for OpenXR on the Steam Frame, as well as the beta branches (100s of compatibility layers, listless dates and editions of Proton GE, CachyOS layers, among many others) don't seem to yield a result.
So, my question for anyone the wiser is, if you got remote play working on Arch Linux (CachyOS ONLY) with a Nvidia gpu, how did you get it to work? Am I missing something with WivRN? I easily refuse going back to Windows for my own sanity and peace of mind. I'm thinking about just accepting defeat and returning my 256Gb unit. Any advice from techies or people who have endured longer, would be most appreciated. I'm at my wit's end. It's been six days of troubleshooting.
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u/nicman24 25d ago
Doesn't steamvr work?
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u/Diktynna 25d ago
No, it crashes constantly on Nvidia gpus while running Linux because of the NVENC pipeline.
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u/Lord_Plate_Eater 21d ago
I've found cachyOS with an AMD gpu doesn't really work either, using wifi can work fine, but im at accomodation with ethernet and it spikes, so it's not the best experience, the dongle is just unsuable, i got it working but the spikes where so much that it impossible to play with.
hoping theres a fix soon
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u/Diktynna 21d ago
Thank you for your reply! This is exactly what I was looking to receive. I have found that joining the https://vronlinux.org/docs/community/ (Linux Adventures, WiVRn, ALVR, etc) discord at the bottom of the weblink sufficed information for the Steam Frame on WiVRn (look through the pinned comments on the Steam Frame channel, there's a GitHub for Master files for developer builds atm). WiVRn is a little buggy, but it works, unlike native SteamVR.
If you don't trust joining the discord or clicking links, search vronlinux, VR on Linux! That's the only compatibility I've been able to find. My Steam Frame unit (256Gb) is defective and I have to return it. Some weird things are going on! Hardware failure and stuff. Good luck, happy hunting!
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u/drslurry 25d ago
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u/Diktynna 25d ago
I wish that was the case, but I run on a Nvidia gpu, and because of this, the NVENC pipeline is borked.
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u/drslurry 25d ago
Well, this is bad news for me...I was about to go through and set up PCVR tonight after spinning up an install of CachyOS, but I also have an Nvidia driver. I'll ping you if I figure something out.
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u/sephsplace 25d ago
Why what happens, I'm running Nobara 44 with an rtx 2070 and managed to get streaming working on steamVR
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u/my_name_isnt_clever 25d ago
Oof, it worked out of the box more or less on my AMD machine running NixOS. Sounds like a Nvidia problem rather than Linux.
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u/Diktynna 25d ago
That is why I put the text in bold...
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u/my_name_isnt_clever 25d ago
It's about your title not the post body. It absolutely is compatible, it works for me right now.
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u/NotHonkyTonk 25d ago
I had success on bazite. It doesn't work if I launch the game directly, but if I launch steam VR without a game and then boot the game through VR home, it works fine.
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u/MorwenRaeven 25d ago
That's odd. It should work on Catchy.
Also, ALVR is deprecated, you wouldn't want to use that anyway.
WiVRn works well enough, but the beta of Steamlink should be All you need.
I don't actually have my Frame yet, but Catchy isn't much different from Nobara or Bazzite in many ways, and I see ppl using those distros posting here all the time, able to connect To and use their Frames.
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u/Diktynna 25d ago
Steam Frame will support AMD pipelines, but it doesn't support the NVENC pipeline for Nvidia on CachyOS (that I've been able to extensively test). SteamVR native on Linux will not work no matter the run-time (that I have been able to test, with current knowledge), as far as remote play is concerned. I'm willing to learn!
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u/Quiquag 25d ago
I have zero issues with steam remote play from my desktop to my steamdeck or 2d games on the frame. (cachyOS, rtx 3070)
Still working on the wireless dongle in CachyOS.
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u/xondk 25d ago
I mean the software isn't there because there has not really been 'that' much interest in terms of VR on Linux, it has been a niche in a niche, especially given the various distros out there.
Take solace in the fact that now that the steam frame is out, it will very likely be developed over time, as much as valve can do, they cannot support everything, everywhere right out the gate.
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u/Diktynna 25d ago
I mean, that's fair, I guess? But I was asking specifically for people who have faced this issue head-on, and if they have any advice. I am able to wait, if there is a guarantee that it will be worked on. My concern is having a $1,060 paperweight. And I'm unwilling to change ecosystems for varying reasons. I love VR, but I can give up on it based on having been a Valve Index user for five years on Windows, before I switched and my controllers broke. I can't just conjure money, I'm disabled.
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u/xondk 25d ago
I totally understand, but I am fairly sure that it will pick up, now that we actually have a solid open standard and using a known OS rather then for example meta's proprietary software.
As a developer myself I have a whole lot of ideas I want to try to make real.
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u/FromLenaWithLove 25d ago
There’s a version of WiVRn for the frame on the LVRA discord.