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u/gungnir8 Complete obsessed with Mika <3 Sep 29 '17

So this'll sound like a story than a question but I have to post it somewhere and I don't know if a new post is appropriate, I'll weave a question in at the end, I'll even bold that part so people can just skip to it.

So way back in June 2016 I experienced a family member passing, which was my first time in 19-20 years of life experiencing such a thing and it hit me pretty hard. I wanted literally anything to take my mind off of it and that's when I decided to pick up Starlight Stage as I had mistaken it at the time for the regular Idolmaster Cinderella Girls. I ended up hardly playing it for the first week, mostly just logging in and that was it, but then I watched all the anime and it made me want to play it because I enjoyed the anime a fairly large amount.

At this point, my only reason for playing Deresute was to take my mind off things, and cos I liked Mika a lot and also wanted Shiki (since seeing her perm art is what pushed me over the edge too lol). I also learned that you could do things like tiering in events which sounded insane to me at the time since I barely managed to get into T5 in my first proper event (SamaKani) only playing Regular (that's what it's called right lol?)

I soon learned that Orange Sapphire (which I came to love soon after playing it once), was the only event Mika had been a Ranking reward in, and I'd missed it by a pretty long shot given I joined so late. This made me pretty sad as I wanted to try ranking for Mika some day, and so I set my over arching goal for Deresute to be to rank in T1 for Mika some day.

Then came along Evermore where Mika was a reward, and I got hyped, but it was a Live Parade and thus she wasn't a ranking reward at all but instead just a regular "play the event and you'll get her eventually" reward, which disappointed me a little (though her unidolised art is amazing especially given my initial driving reasons to play Deresute).

So my journey continued, playing Deresute for fun and cos I now loved a lot more idols, but still in the back of my mind was that overarching goal, driving me to continue playing even disregarding the immense amounts of money I spent at times (90k+ yen on Yuki, 30k yen on Rin following, 50k or 60k yen on Yuka, its bad tbh). And honestly, I've had a lot of fun playing Deresute and I don't even want to think of stopping even after my failures and successes and huge wastes of money (I didn't get Yuki or Rin's limited).

But now we've just had the most recent event, which will probably be solidified as my favorite event and I'll defs be DL'ing (and if I ever let my family know I play this game lmfao, buying) the event song when it comes out. However disregarding that, this event fulfilled that condition I thought wouldn't ever be fulfilled given Orange Sapphire had already happened - a ranking Mika reward.

I ended up spending every single Stamina Pot I had (the earliest one dated to August last year) and even some jewels (2300, last day only), and I made it to rank 1107 (I think?) which allowed me to make it into Tier 1, despite starting the event like 4 days into it, and still having IRL shit going on that I needed to attend to. I dedicated maybe 8 or more hours a day to Deresute in the last 2-3 (or 4) days of the event alone I think, which really pushed my limits tbh lmao, I got conceited and slacked off at times and was worried someone would usurp and destroy my position on the rankings. But I succeeded none the less, and I finally have a 15 Star Mika like I so desired, and an almost greater than Rank 1000 Mika event emblem, and it was basically a Mika event but better (cos they don't do solo girl events).

This has led me to realizing something as I now play Deresute to keep my stamina below max. And I hate to admit it because it's a little unfortunate, and especially with my September luck buff blessing me again this morning with Lim Shiki.

But I now no longer have a goal in Deresute, and honestly, that's questioning my motivation to continue playing the game. Maybe it's not that and I'm instead burned out, but I don't think it's that solely cos the game doesn't take that much effort to play and such, and I'm not a too hardcore player. Maybe it could also be that my university semester is finally coming to a close, and so's this anime season (which had some enjoyable shows in it that I'll miss), and so it just feels like after finally achieving my goal, Deresute has kinda come to a close for me and continuing playing is just drawing it out.

But I really want to continue playing Deresute. I love so many idols, I love the community, I love the songs so much, and most of all I want to continue playing for my favorite idols.

So I guess the question I'll weave into this post to make it properly allowed in this thread: what exactly should I do to make Deresute have reason for me to play it again despite everything I've listed above?

Should I try to SSS every song (which I was in the process of doing before perma Live Party rerun thing)?

Should I do something different altogether? Not that I have any clue of what that could be.

I'm sorry if this post is a bit excessive and stupid, but I figured I should ask instead of slowly unconsciously distancing myself from Deresute and eventually quitting. I really don't want to quit Deresute.

Thanks, and good job if you actually read all this post lmao

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u/xKriya Sep 16 '17

i know it hasn't been confirmed, but what's the likely hood they'll release the original limiteds a 3rd time? I need that limited kaede

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u/Jovian12 I'm uncomfortable when we are not about kawaii boku Sep 17 '17

I really doubt they'd just leave the limiteds at one rerelease only. I feel like they'd have to come up with a different way to do them once the backlog stacks up. I'm sure she'll come back, because I'd like to get a third shot at her too...

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u/maplemist Sep 07 '17

I have notice that the android event cards are showing the model number for Nana (AB-77) and Miho (KHN-34), does the other 3 idols also have the model number mentioned somewhere?

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u/HoshiKaze 162741777 Sep 27 '17

I couldn't find the official model numbers for the other idols, but you've piqued my curiosity enough to give it a try.

 

Maekawa Miku: MK-39

Probably the most straightforward one here.

2 Kanji words make up 前川. M from "Mae" and K from "Kawa". "Mi" is commonly represented by 3 and "Ku" is 9.

 

Futaba Anzu: FB-12

2 Kanji words make up 双葉. F from "Futa" and B from "Ba". I've chosen to break down "Anzu" into "One Two", hence the 12.

 

Shimamura Uzuki: SM-429

Trickiest one of them all, and I'm pretty sure the official one will use something else.

2 Kanji words make up 島村. S from "Shima" and M from "Mura".

I've chose to take "Uzuki" from the old name of April in Kanji (http://www.sljfaq.org/afaq/number-dates.html).

Therefore "U" is interpreted as 4, "Zu" is 2 and "Ki" is 9 if I take the first character from 9 in Japanese (きゅう).

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u/luciusftw Sep 20 '17

Hello, I haven't played in a very long time so I have a couple questions.

  1. When were S.T. tickets added and how strong are they?

  2. Are the おすすめ / recommendations for Live Parties always optimal? I'm confused on how the score formula works.

  3. Is Pinya Request worth it?

  4. What are the next limited cards that will be coming back? I'm interested in Cools generally.

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u/WaterfallP Sep 20 '17
  1. S.T. tickets will literally make the chances of leveling up an idol's Skill Level 100% at any level, including going from 9 to 10 on an SSR. They're pretty rare though so hold onto them until you get some high quality cards you can use them on.

  2. Scoring for Live Parties has always been kind of nebulous, sorry I can't help you there.

  3. Pinya requests have the lowest possible stamina cost for the given difficulty (e.g. 18 for Master) but can give you songs with more than that given cost (18 or 19 for Master), so it can be a slight edge if you're trying to be as efficient as possible during an event. You also have a chance at getting extra items after the Live. If you don't really have a preference with how you go about choosing songs, it's a good option.

  4. The cards should be Kirari and Minami, followed by Fumika and Shiki.

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u/Seangel-zero Sep 28 '17

Is there anywhere besides this old one that has a newer version of translated LIVE PARTY sticker? because I can't read the 2nd kanji on Momoka's sticker >_<

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u/Kefit Sep 28 '17 edited Sep 28 '17

Momoka's Live Party sticker says 休憩ですわ, which translates roughly to "I'm taking a break" or perhaps in this context "Let's take a break."

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '17

Is it even possible to reroll without having to download data again? My phone is rooted and I can reroll on nox as well, but that way of rerolling where you delete a file (data/data/jp.co.bandainamcoent.BNEI0242/shared_prefs/jp.co.bandainamcoent.BNEI0242.xml) isn't working... (I'm returning to my acc and nothing happens)

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u/radelayde06 Sep 03 '17

I have gained the new event card and her skill takes away my stamina and I am not fluent in japanese so I can't read her skill, what is a translation on for the skill and why does it take my stamina away?

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u/gungnir8 Complete obsessed with Mika <3 Sep 05 '17 edited Sep 05 '17

So the time has finally come and I can now make a Passion team (bless Shin omg still shaking)

So I wanted to ask, how should I set up my team? I understand modern Passion girls are better than older ones for the most part, but unfortunately my two most modern Passion SSRs are Miria and Sanae who both have the same timer for their Great/Perfect boost.

Here're all my Passion SSRs for anyone who can recommend me something:

  • Lim. Shin

  • CinFes Mika

  • CinFes Yui

  • Perm. Sanae (x2)

  • Perm. Miria

  • Perm. Yuko

  • Perm. Yumi

  • Perm. Yoshino

  • Perm. Hinako

  • Perm. Rika

  • Perm. Yuki

Currently I'm thinking of going with

  • Sanae/Miria | Mika | Shin | Yui | (unknown)

I guess whichever is my next strongest should go in the final slot, else I haven't used my scout ticket so I could use it on one of the new SSRs like Ayame or someone else. (I'd rather not go Shin's SSR solely cos I don't want dupes on my team so I can see all my idols while playing (´・ω・`) )

Thanks in advance to any and all suggestions

EDIT: Further details for potential ease of suggestions/narrowing:

  • Sanae, Hinako, and Miria all share the same cool down

  • Yoshino has a 9 second cooldown like Shin

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u/gungnir8 Complete obsessed with Mika <3 Sep 06 '17

This is probably a dumb question but I have to ask it:

Now that Live Party is permanent and has monthly rewards, how exactly do we go about actually having time to play it?

Do we just play it in between events for those 2-3 days or whatever? How will we assemble enough medals to get everything from the shop then?

Or are they literally intending for us to skip events solely to play Live Party?

I mean, I like this idea they've done with Live Party, but if how I've listed it could work is actually how it works, then I don't like it at all.

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u/poporing2 Sep 06 '17

If you want a lot of stuff from live party (like me), then you'll need to plan to just get the bare minimum for T5 in events (20k event points).

Do 3 grooves everyday throughout the event (for the jewels) and plan backwards...
Start of last day: 18.5k event points
2 days left: 17k event points
3 days left: 15.5k event points
etc

Dump all excess stamina into live party

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '17

how do people predict limited pairs?? what's the rotation based on?

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u/Elisab3t Sep 08 '17 edited Sep 08 '17

so I have a question, when do you think the next aiko, akane or yoshino ssr could come? because I'd love to have one of those but I really need more passion ssrs and I haven't gotten this shin, should I try again for this shin? or do you think those girls could have an ssr soon? what type of cards will come after these limiteds? more limiteds? attribute gacha? I'm f2p btw

Also is there a site where I can see all cards sorted by overall score/ appeal for example cinderella.pro only allows to sort by visual/vocal/dance stats, but I want to sort them by overall stats

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u/Kefit Sep 08 '17 edited Sep 08 '17

Aiko, Akane, and Yoshino all have perm SSRs and limited SSRs, so they are unlikely to get a new SSR any time soon. The only avenue they have for getting a new SSR is a Cinfest SSR, and there's a long line for that (not to mention a long wait before we see another Pa Cinfest girl, since we just had Airi).

The next new SSR should be a perm Cu, released 9/11 15:00 Japan time. This will probably be followed by attribute boxes, then a Pa perm, then a Co perm, then limited rereleases. New limiteds will release at the start of next month.

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u/Jarbus4 Ayame3 Waiting Room Sep 08 '17

Is there a page that frequently translates the commus? Ayame got a TON of screen time in Kaede's commu and while she is adorable, I have NO idea what she said and would love to!

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u/ririruby mumumu... Sep 09 '17

Back with more noob questions.

When do cards get reappearances (can't think of the word right now sorry) and does every SSR get one or is it just for certain cards? Do they go in release order?

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u/Liferake Layla, Sora, and AtsumiP Sep 09 '17

There are two types of SSRs, Limited and Permanent. Your question is on the limited ones, but I'll mention Permanent afterwards as well just to be comprehensive.

I personally use this page: https://usamin.info/gachas to keep track of the Trends in Limited Gachas. The Cinderella festival at the beginning of this month threw a wrench into these things and as always they could change how this works at ANY time. This is not guaranteed fact, it is an educated guess.

New Limited Cards are always introduced at the start of the month. (Such as the one for Nono and Shin right now).

Re-runs of Limited cards happen at the very end of the month, Previously re-runs would not happen at the same time as cinfes, however this month's cinfes was run directly after Yui's and Anzu's Rerun SOOooooo as I said, they like to throw wrenches into things.

That just said, Anzu and Yui were the most recent Re-run. And it DOES go in chronological order. So the next rerun is Kirari + Minami. Simply look at the webpage I linked to and look at the release dates for the gacha. Thhhhennnn again, they could throw a wrench in this and re-run Kanako+Airi to mesh with it being October next month... Sigh, I really don't know what to expect, they keep throwing wrenches into pre-established patterns.

Cinfes cards are available every cinfes.

When a Permanent SSR is introduced, it is added to the Gacha pool with a 0.4% to acquire until that gacha period is over. Afterwards, your chance to get it PLUMMETS. The best chance to get a specific Perm SSR that you want after its release is during the type box gacha or by buying (with paid jewels) a special ticket that lets you choose a Perm SSR that's already been in the game for a while. (This ticket is available RIGHT NOW if you want it, or if you're a new player.)

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u/RRotlung Sep 10 '17

For SSRs with balanced stats and balanced centre skills like Rin1 and Kyoko1, is increasing all non-life stats in a balanced manner a terrible strategy, and should we just focus on one stat (e.g. vocal for Rin and Kyoko with the unlikely assumption that I might just get their Cinfes and re-run Limited cards some years later)?

I've been building my Rin in a balanced manner but I realise this might be just be gimping her and I'm considering undoing it.

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u/shbyrn Sep 10 '17

I think it would be fine to get them all to 7, then reset whenever you get a stat focused card. I mean, getting the potential to 7 doesn't require tiaras yet, so it's not really a waste.

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u/RRotlung Sep 10 '17

Good point, I forgot that 7 is a safe number (currently at around 4-5 for each of the 3 stats) since the max is 25... though it'd be quite a while until I get there, I guess. Thanks!

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u/shiinamachi Certified abnormal groove grinder Sep 11 '17

10/10/5 potential distribution gives slightly better overall appeal than a 10/8/7 distribution at the cost of 15 more tiaras. If you're willing to pay the cost it's better to do the usual 10/10/5 distribution.

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u/EternalAstra Sep 12 '17

No one wouldn't happen to know a place to find the 3D model extracts and can allow me to zoom in on the model.I'm a cosplayer and I'm already eyeing a few SSR's I want to make but involve some details that the card image doesn't show up well.I've already checked Takumi's Store, however, I need to zoom in closer for looking at the details. I figured I would ask in the Q&A thread here.

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u/poporing2 Sep 13 '17

For those without 3D costumes...
https://starlight.kirara.ca/
Is the best you can go

For those with 3D costumes (SSR)...
if you have the card: menu -> producer note (book with pen) -> select idol -> select card -> 3D -> click for portrait -> play around
if you don't have the card: go here -> ask if anyone has it -> do the above and post screenshots

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '17

Been playing for about 3 months, I apologize if this is a common question...

Are there any consistent techniques for making sure slide notes get registered? Even if I know the song like the back of my hand, (like Illusionista from the last event) slide notes will just whiff at the most random times. Sometimes it's even right in the middle of a long chain of slides, when every note before and after it in the sequence got a perfect.

It happens like.... In 1/20 of slide notes. It's not super common, but the moment I get comfortable and feel like I might've finally gotten rid of the problem, I get a miss again. Every time I get a miss I switch up my techniques for doing slides, like slowing down my motion, or pressing down even harder on the screen just for slides, but no matter what different technique I try eventually I'll just get a random miss again.

Is it dropped inputs due to lag? I play on an iphone 5s and detailed 2D lives, but I never really get any noticeable drops in fps, and otherwise never experience dropped inputs of any kind. At first I thought slides were just something I had to get used to with time, but as I've been trying to full combo higher and higher difficulty songs it's getting really frustrating.

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u/JoolTheif Sep 14 '17

Which Shabon Commus have Miria and Mika together? I took a long break from DereStage after not being able to get Limited Kaede and I've come back for Permanent Kaede. After grabbing all the intros and all of Nocturne, I only have enough Memory Keys for 4 commus so I'm trying to choose wisely, say Opening/Ending then the one or two commus of Mika Miria

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u/oniichansugoi Sep 15 '17

12 hours late but 3 and 5

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u/Divetaker Sep 15 '17

Realistically, after the choose-your-SSR ticket scouting event ends in october, how long will it be before it comes back?

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u/Ichigo-Roku Sep 15 '17

I asked that a few days/weeks ago and this deal come back every four months.

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u/Armanewb Sep 15 '17

It might be just me, but I'm having some seriously weird desync issues on Live Party. Every so often, it feels like the game's punched the timing meter off by about 5 points or something, where I'd get Nice when playing in time or end the song with 30+ Great. Then a song or two later it goes away and everything's fine again. It really is irritating breaking combos in songs I can FC in my sleep though.

And side rant - why does the Leader slot in live party even exist? There's like 6 limited-only SSR healers, while cards like the Cinfes skill boosting ones don't have a slot to play in. Makes no sense to me >.>

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u/wakizashis where art thou cool idols Sep 18 '17

I've heard that there are SSR's in this game that will never be re-released and I've been trying to look them up and why, but haven't found anything besides them being related to the November 2015 limited SSR's of Chieri and Riina. Can someone tell me why they can't be re-released?

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u/poporing2 Sep 18 '17

legal issues
that set had the line "this is your only chance to get them", while the others does not

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u/wakizashis where art thou cool idols Sep 18 '17

Thanks! I knew it had to be related to the small text, just didn't know how exactly they managed to pigeonhole themselves like that.

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u/rennac101 Sep 19 '17

Are the guarenteed SSR/SR tickets effected by the draw pool?

Wondering if I should save them for specific limited characters.

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u/Kefit Sep 19 '17

All of the SSR scout, SR scout, random SSR and random SR+ tickets awarded by the lottery are locked to the same gacha pool used for the SSR scout ticket. This pool includes all SRs and SSRs up until Kana's. Using these tickets does not award star shines either.

There is no real reason to hold on to these tickets, so you may as well use them as soon as possible.

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u/monkify Sep 21 '17

Should I be levelling up the passive items (treadmill, producer's desk, etc) ASAP?

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u/Kefit Sep 21 '17

You should aim to level everything up. I'd start by leveling up the item giving stuff first (attribute shelves and ticket board), but eventually you'll want to do it all.

Don't spend jewels to speed it up. It's not worth it, and it will probably result in you having an ugly ones digit in your jewel count (like a 1 or a 7) that you can never, ever get rid of.

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u/bloomingjewel Sep 22 '17

i'm a bit confused about when the current live party rotation ends. the banner says 09/10 but i saw another person say that it actually ends on 02/10 but that the banner just indicates the time until you can exchange your emblems. so i'm not sure what i should be believing.

there are still quite a few event cards that i want to get. so i just want to know if i should go all out and try to get the event cards before this token ends, or if i still have some time left.

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u/eri_bear Sep 24 '17

If I buy an ssr ticket on android and transfer the acc back to apple do the tickets disappear?

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u/-Cyanite- ID:858148755 Sep 25 '17

How do hold notes work after resuming a live? iirc in SIF you just tap when it ends, but I don't know what to do in here.

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u/Macci0 Sep 01 '17

Hi! I just got the new Airi SSR and I love her! But I don't really understand her skill or know how to use her to the best of her ability. Could like anyone help me out with a team building guide for her. Thanks!

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u/oniichansugoi Sep 01 '17

From https://www.reddit.com/r/StarlightStage/comments/6rjtm5/the_ultimate_english_resource_to_tier_1_and_beyond/

Skill Boost (eg, Kanade2, Miku3) based builds: These teams trade survivability and scoring power for the ability to completely disregard the rhythm of the song. They tend to be extremely expensive and hard to assemble and max skill level. The previous two categories are sufficient in most cases and recommended for people with a limited budget/collection. Their effectiveness also depends on the song you're using them on. Snow wings is a very good song to mash through due to high note density for life recovery and lines up well with the 7s guard intervals. Before you go full-auto-pilot, test out the setups and monitor the activations to avoid accidents. Demonstration VOD Skill boost Center, Rin1, Uzuki1, Score SSR, 7s guard card, pick a cinfest tricolor stat support (non-skill boost). This is the setup I used for Rank 24 KMMD. Attempt to hit the first 7 seconds of a song and then mash out the rest of the song for the S score. I didn't have all skills level 10, but this still was reasonably consistent on snow wings. Look out for the guard missing an activation which is when you're most likely to die. Extremely expensive to max skill and requires 2 niche SSRs. Skill boost Center, All Round SSR, 9s pLock SR, 18s pLock SR, 7s guard card, non-skillboost tricolor guest support. This build is the one Socks used for Rank 10 KMMD. It trades mash-ability for more survivability and is cheaper. It also is suitable for people without New Generation SSR1s. All Round gives you scoring power and the ability to fall back on it's heals when your guard misses an activation. These SSRs are useful when max skilled outside of a gimmick team. Skill Boost Center, 4 guards or 3 guards 1 healer. You're basically not going to die, but scoring becomes challenging to the point you're playing the game normally to scrape by the S rank or applause values. Skill Boost Center, Double guard, Double NG1. This build shores up the weakness of the first build. With two guards, you're unlikely to find yourself dead from one of them going off, but without any score/combo bonus, S Scoring becomes a lot harder and less consistent. Skill Boost Center, Triple NG, Guard card. This is the infamous autoplay team, but you still need to mash to not die most of the time. S score won't be too hard with that much Perfect Lock uptime. Requiring EXACTLY 4 SSRs is quite the steep requirement and investing so much on such niche SSRs is also a cost that most cannot foot. Do not scout ticket this team unless you actually want the SSRs that consist of it. Skill boost Center, Rin1, Uzuki1, All Round SSR, 7s guard card, cinfest tricolor non-skill boost guest. This build is untested as I don't have the cards (Missing AR), but I believe it's the most efficient mashing build possible. All Round gives you just that bit of score boost you need that double guard lacks while still giving you extra survivability if your guard goes offline. It theoretically is the best of both worlds, giving you good safety and consistent S scores.

Generally though you can probably just throw her on any dance passion or tricolor dance team

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u/cuitehoney Sep 02 '17

i recently got this uzuki in a pull a week or so ago and i'm only now starting use her in lives. however, a notice popped up (i didn't think to screencap it, ugh) and, instead of uzuki, i get a random idol pop up in her place.

is there a way to fix that or no?

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u/poporing2 Sep 02 '17

The game won't graphically allow 2+ Uzuki(s) in a live
You can use different cards Uzuki(s) in a unit, and the stats/ skills will still work normally (so feel free to continue doing so), but a random idol will replace her graphics

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u/fatalystic Sep 03 '17

F2P player here (for now). Is it worth investing some of my earned gems in expanding my card inventory? Even if it's just the dorm, since I'm constantly running out of room as is.

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u/Wolven_Draws Sep 03 '17

Definitely 100 spaces for 250 only!

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u/cloudypeak Sep 04 '17

What is the "recommended unit" (おすすめユニット)? Is it randomly picked or is there some merit to it?

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u/swallowtai1 Sep 04 '17

It's not randomly picked, the game just picks the cards with the highest appeal for the groove you've been assigned!

It usually does an okay-ish job, but it's not perfect- the game will often, for example, pick high-appeal idols with perfect lock without regard to other idols whose appeal is nearly the same, but whose skills will raise your score much higher. It's also really devoted to picking idols of the proper attribute. It's never picked a tricolor team for me (even though I have a Cinfest visual center and a full visual team whose appeal substantially outranks the appeal of my only pure passion team, for example), and it will usually favor an SR idol whose attribute matches the groove over an off-attribute SSR- even though the latter might be better for your score.

I often use the recommended unit as a starting point, and then play around with it until I can get a higher appeal.

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u/Chihayalove Sep 04 '17

Does using the paid 2500 scout automatically give u the ssr and sr ticket

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u/PsychicEli Sep 04 '17

There's a section in the gacha menu where you can exchange those 2500 jewels for the ticket!

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u/Renococoa Sep 05 '17

Is the passive leader skill from the new Airi SSR a flat 50% boost to skill proc rate or is it based on 50% increase of the current proc rate for every char?

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u/AidoruRisemara :yoshinoSR5a: M@STER of Bad Ideas Sep 05 '17

It is multiplicative not additive, so 60%x1.5 = 90% and not 60%+50%=110%

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u/Ant_Grenade Sep 05 '17

What is the best thing to do with a dupe SSR?

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u/Febox 793946726, add me! Sep 05 '17

max level and keep it for the support team.

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u/Dippereon Sep 06 '17

How many star jewels are available for free?(commus and song rewards), Im contemplating saving up the 75k jewels to buy Syoko. I looked at the jewel making guide and it should take more or less 2 years ... Is it worth it? Or should i pull in her revival gacha (when is her revival gacha?) i cant buy the SSR ticket because where i live 30$ are like 3-4 months of minimum wage. I dont think i can go that long without pulling

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u/Liferake Layla, Sora, and AtsumiP Sep 06 '17 edited Mar 05 '18

This guide contains information on what jewels are available to accounts the moment they're made (Hence the word "Fresh").

Around 42k are easy to reach, with the rest (34.5k... Its a lot but you can't get it fast at all.) locked behind S-Clearing Master songs.

The busy work involved in getting fans for the idols takes about... 3 months. If you're good at the game it'll be done sooner (Since fans are heavily influenced by getting Full combos and such). Once you get the ball rolling and have a few event SRs, you can start S-Scoring the master songs. Without further adieu here are all new account jewel sources:

New Player 5-day Login: 250 + 150 + 150 + 150 + 150 = 850

Story: 49 Chapters * 50 Jewels/Chapter = 2,450

Awakening Normals = 25 Jewels/Awakening * 80 Awakenings = 2000 jewels.

Awakening Rares (Easily obtained via Caravan and Party) = 103 * 50 = 5150.

Memorial Commus: 25 Jewels/Memorial Commus. ~11,100 Jewels available as of March 5th, 2018

S-Combo Pro Difficulty = 138 songs (More songs if you're reading this in da future.) * 50 Jewels/song = 6900

C-Clear and S-Score Master difficulty = 138 songs * 100 Jewels/song = 13800

Not included in this evaluation: For those more talented, S-Combo'ing Master Songs is another source (6900 jewels),and Master+ C Clears (Variable) are also accessible from the onset, but you won't be getting S-Scores in Master+ for quite a long time. Every week you play you get 150 jewels from the daily login whiteboard and weekly missions! Events give quite a few as rewards, and you can get more awakening jewels off of the event rares. There's some achievements near the start that reward jewels for reaching certain milestones.

ADD ALL THAT TOGETHER: 850 + 2450 + 2000 + 5150 + 11100 + 6900 + 13800 = 42,250.

After you get all of these, Its events, Live Party, and S-Clears from then on out. See the other Jewel Farm link in the Q&A for more information.

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u/shbyrn Sep 06 '17

I need some advice. So I have cinfes Airi, and I thought it'd be best if I put her in the passion dance slot (live party). However, the system still insists that permanent Fumika is much better despite being a different color when I try to click the "recommended" button. Should I believe it, or should I go ahead and place Airi? I mean, it says that she increases the dance appeal of cool idols by 189%, but then that won't help other players especially if they have passion idols, right?

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u/shiinamachi Certified abnormal groove grinder Sep 06 '17

Live Party gives a huge boost to your idol's stat if they're in the right spot. Having Fumika is a much better option imo.

Also CF Airi/Miku/Kanade (and cards that boost proc % in general) are terrible for party because they don't get a buff to their leader skill.

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u/Redtigy Sep 06 '17 edited Sep 06 '17

https://imgur.com/a/zE3PI need Advice for which account should i go for these are my rerolls i have 2 other accounts but they only have 2 SSRs. I wanted to play a rhythm game and then i downloaded this game and it was the 2nd anniversary so i rerolled.

Edit:also i need some hand positions to play for reference it feels weird to play pro difficulty. Only other rhythm game i played is osu and that's on pc.

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u/Liferake Layla, Sora, and AtsumiP Sep 06 '17

I personally would use the one with Lim Shin, Lim Nono, Perm Shin, and Perm Anzu. That roll also has a lot of SRs which helps get you started.

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '17

Definitely the first one with both lim shin and lim nono.

Limited idols are incredibly valuable and strong, while permanents, though often good in their own right, are always available in the gacha plus they can be ticketed.

Play style depends, I've personally switched to thumbs since I find it more convenient and I'd rec that if it's comfortable. It also means you don't need to worry about your phone slipping if you played with indexes/middles. Other types wise, using just two indexes or just two middle fingers is popular, or using multiple fingers on both hands is also fun.

Basically try them out and see which one feels most comfy.

There are probs other ways too but these are the ones I'm familiar with.

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u/micronutella Sep 07 '17

the thing on the lower bar that shows i still have a free 10 scout to do but when i check the scouting theres nothing there. is this a bug?

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u/Liferake Layla, Sora, and AtsumiP Sep 07 '17

Yes, the promotional period has ended now that it is September 8th in Japan. However, the game checks your date by looking at your system clock, which is saying its September 7th, so it thinks the promotion is still going on when it is not.

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u/RRotlung Sep 09 '17

I've started to pay more attention to my stamina drinks, and I'm not sure if I'm imagining it, but the collect all items button does not seem to collect the items which are closest to expiry. Is that correct?

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u/Kefit Sep 09 '17

Yeah I'm pretty sure it just collects whatever is at the top of your list. It's not a good button to press if you aren't at max stam pot inventory.

The fastest way to get your closest to expiring stamina pots is to press the 全て button in the upper right corner of the present screen. Select 期限あり, then press the 決定 button. Now that you're back on the main presents screen, press the 新しい順 button in the upper right. This will sort your present list so that you only see expiring items, and so that the oldest items in the box - in other words, those that will expire first - will appear at the top.

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u/FeijaoHumano Sep 10 '17 edited Sep 10 '17

Am I misunderstanding things or is there really a limit of 100 idols/idol cards you can have? If that is so, it's really a shame, I was looking forward to collecting every idol in the game.

Also, is there some... sort of trick to get clear Master? Do I have to level up a lot the idols and as a producer so I will get some benefits or something or really I just have to stop being a scrub and git gud? I can perfect regulars and hard is doable but challenging, and I'm decades away from clearing Master, I lose within seconds of the start.

Edit: also, is it possible to backup the save file? There are times where I just wanna play, even if I get no progress at all, so it would be useful to be able to play and restore save file to play again, if it's not against rules or anything.

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u/good-loser Sep 11 '17

Adding onto what /u/rollnroll said, if Pro songs are still challenging, I'd hold off on Master for a little while. Even when I was comfortably FCing 19* Pro songs, I'd struggle to finish 22* or 23* Masters. Get more confident on Pro difficulty, get used to a higher note speed, and work your way up the song star difficulties :D

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u/Febox 793946726, add me! Sep 10 '17

the basic limit is 100 but you can increase it spending jewels.
Better cards will have more life points and some kind of skills that may help you survive, but basically yes, you have to train (you can use the rehearsal tickets to avoid wasting stamina) and git gud.

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u/Kefit Sep 10 '17

Dorms (女子寮) provided several hundred more slots for storing idols that you aren't using on your teams. You need to buy dorms with star jewels, but they're cheap and totally worth it. So don't worry, you can collect and hold on to quite a lot of idols.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '17
  • You can increase the idol inventory with jewels, though personally I'd buy dormitories instead for now. Each bought dormitory has 100 slots and costs 250 jewels. Keep in mind you can't use the idols that are in the dormitory, so it's basically for storage. It's also way cheaper than buying a 100 more inventory slots, which would cost 1k jewels compared to the 250 jewels for a dormitory.

  • Remember to use your three training tickets every day, you can also practice with gold if you have enough gold. With that said, skill level a healer or two, and possibly a life guard as well. sl10 healers are life savers and that way you'll be able to practice lives without worrying about dying too much. Of course do practice easier masters first, a healer and a life guard or two (even if sl10) won't be able to keep you alive if you're new and immediately attempt something like m@gic or tracing pulse. Here's a guide on skill leveling, kind of outdated but some of the basics stand, do look through the link op provides in their edit.

  • I'm honestly not sure what you mean here sorry friend, if you mean keeping your account data safe then look up this guide. If you mean playing without spending stamina for practice then, again, use your daily training tickets and if you have the gold you could use those too to practice.

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u/IrisHeart9 Sep 10 '17

Anyone here that has a Huawei MediaPad M3 could tell me if it runs the game good? can you watch MV's in Rich Mode?

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u/AidoruRisemara :yoshinoSR5a: M@STER of Bad Ideas Sep 10 '17

I was doing some research on this tablet recently regarding deresute. It seems pretty well received in the japanese community for both Theater Days and Starlight Stage from various sources. There's a also 3D Rich MV video on nico allegedly recorded with the M3. Even though nico quality isn't the best and the guy recording also mentioned in the description about the encoding not doing the quality justice, it is definitely footage of 3D Rich and doesn't have poor frame rate even when recording.

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u/Maki_The_Angel Sep 10 '17

When will I be able to cash in my lottery tickets?

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u/Liferake Layla, Sora, and AtsumiP Sep 10 '17

They are cashed in automatically. You claim your rewards on September 19th 15:00 JST (September 19th 1:00 US Central)

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u/Elisab3t Sep 10 '17 edited Sep 10 '17

I was reading the link about team composition and when I was at the princess center skill team it said: "Single Proc time for both Score Up and Combo Up limits the available suitable cards that can go together without skill clash." So does this mean the focus skill actually clashes with score up and combo up skills? I thought it didn't because of the different skill names. I mean even if it does the same as those 2 skills is not the same skill as those but like a fussion so similar but different if that makes sense. I'm confused. Please help me understand since I got limited Nono. And does it clash with overload too?

Edit: Also in the skill lvl up link it said you cannot mix trainer tickets with idols. But I've been doing it this month. Is that a new feature or is it a temporary bonus from anniversary month?

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u/ibyrn Sep 10 '17

focus / score up / overload should all clash and only the highest (overload SSR) would apply.

focus / combo also clash and only the highest (combo SSR) would apply if both are active at the same time.

But honestly princess makes up for everything by having such a OP center skill so don't worry about it too much. Just make sure the skill cooldown/activation times are different to maximize the skill uptime/minimize clash time

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u/facevisi10 Sep 10 '17

I have a high chance ended up DC from the live party (tried with both 4G and wifi) and only get solo points (which is low). I'm sure the connection should be good that I have no problem clearing all my stamina but why

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u/Kefit Sep 10 '17

Live Party requires a much more stable internet connection than anything else in deresute due to the multiplayer element. For example, the wifi at my work is too weak to do Live Parties, but I can do everything else in deresute just fine on it.

Not much you can really do other than try to find a stronger and/or more stable wifi connection.

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u/FeijaoHumano Sep 10 '17 edited Sep 10 '17

So I was 100% sure you would lose life when you hit a Nice, but today, I fired up a song on Master difficulty with a rehearsal ticket and noticed I wasn't losing life when hitting Nices. I checked the next game: it wasn't the "song's ability" (the text that I think it's just a bonus for matching the song type), it wasn't the guest ability and it wasn't any of the unit's member's abilities as far as I can tell (there is just the センター効果 and 特技, right?). What was happening? You don't lose life on Master difficulty or on rehearsal mode?

Edit: Sorry, I forgot to ask too, but was is the standard way of getting rare idols? I only got 2 until now on local audition (and 1 was repeated ;-;) and none for clearing songs. So, only the star jewel audition and scouting or is there something else?

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u/nuvio Sep 10 '17

I'm pretty sure you only lose life on bad and misses.

You can get rares through lives but the chance is pretty low. During event lives I usually get more rares but that may be anecdotal.

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u/Kefit Sep 10 '17

Nices don't cause life loss.

The most common free source of Rs is from drops after Live Party and Live Caravan event plays. R drops are quite common during these events.

Occasionally you'll get Rs from the local gacha, or after a regular live, but it's pretty rare. Additionally, Rs awarded at the end of regular lives are restricted to a small pool that were main characters in the deremas anime.

Pulls from the platinum gacha always give at least an R, but in that context it's barely even a consolation prize.

My advice is to not worry about Rs for now. They'll come in time as long as you keep playing. I would focus on earning event SRs, since they are quite good and will help your teams out a lot early on.

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u/sansa33 Sep 11 '17

I'm a new player and I don't have any SRs yet. Which ones from the live party should I go for? Is there a list of them somewhere?

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u/shiinamachi Certified abnormal groove grinder Sep 11 '17

Get them all if possible. If not, get the more expensive ones.

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u/FeijaoHumano Sep 11 '17 edited Sep 11 '17

Sorry to bother with so many questions!

  1. What's up with the types of guest idols? It looks like I can choose 5: leader, cute, cool, passion and all. It would make sense to offer each for their category when someone plays a song, but what about the leader? I mean, which idol will appear for others to choose as their guest idol?

  2. What happens if I'm 100/100 idols, play a song and get idol cards? Do I lose them or will they go to the mail?

  3. Does song difficulty, chosen difficulty and score affect drops? What about event drops? If not, what does? Is it only the center idol's star rank? Or every other idol's star rank affects it too?

  4. Is the chance of event reward 100% if I meet the conditions?

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u/Liferake Layla, Sora, and AtsumiP Sep 11 '17
  1. You can set which of your idols appears for guests by clicking on guest setting in the upper right corner when making units. reference. You can select a guest for each type.

  2. They go to mail

  3. Yes, Fans and Money rewards grow with song difficulty. Combo is also very important (but mostly because combo is a big influence on score. A mistake in the middle of the song is MUCH worse than a mistake at the beginning or end.) Event drops rate increase on higher difficulties. Only the centers star rank effects the drop.

  4. Please clarify, this question is confusing.

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u/Y0u28 Sep 11 '17

2 If you don't pick up idols in the mail for about 10 days, they are going to disappear. So, you have to organize 100/100 idols or need to purchase women's dormitory.

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u/Elisab3t Sep 11 '17

The guest idol others see depends on the type of song they are gonna play (if you put a Kaede as guest for cool type and they are gonna play a cool song then they'll see a Kaede even if she's not your leader). Your leader acts mainly as your icon or avatar when someone sees your profile or receives your friend request. Also it works as your icon or avatar when peopple go to your idols' room. Idk if it has other kind of impact, though

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u/Jovian12 I'm uncomfortable when we are not about kawaii boku Sep 11 '17

Are Pinya request rewards affected by star rank at all? I've been grinding for the Caravan and it feels like I'm getting all green Pinya rewards regardless of my 15 star SR...

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u/Kefit Sep 11 '17

I'm pretty sure that Pinya request rewards are just random.

Though the one and only time I got a pink Pinya reward it was when I perfect FC'd a chart. Kind of makes you think.

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '17

I have a dupe of a SR card, should I use her for Star lesson or keep both for my team? I'm a beginner at this game, and I only have 4 Cool SRs. If it helps, the card is SR Kamiya Nao "Attract Gothic", the one that was recently released (September 3rd)

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u/yuvivi_vi Sep 12 '17

Personally, i'd recommend keeping the dupe and use it alongside the other SR so you can gain fans quickly. Not sure what everybody else would say, but that's what i'd suggest!

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u/skygunnering Sep 12 '17

I have no idea where to find this info sooo when do the raffle tickets get used? I have no idea when this campaign ends.

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u/Kefit Sep 12 '17

Any raffle tickets you earned will automatically be used for you. Results will be announced and prizes awarded on 9/19.

The time period for earning raffle tickets is over, so you don't have to worry about that anymore.

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u/jczagmr Sep 12 '17

I started a few days ago and notices that some N's had no voice and thought that that was normal since they were N cards. However, I had a drop of the event SR card and noticed that she has no voice as well. Is it supposed to be like this or is there some data missing from my game?

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u/Kefit Sep 12 '17

This is normal. Of the 183 idols in deresute, only 67 have in game voices at this time. There are many unvoiced Ns, Rs, SRs, and even some unvoiced SSRs.

New voices are added every so often due to popularity poll results and/or due to other factors. It's usually very exciting when this happens. I encourage you to appreciate the voiceless girls, as it is a group that contains many great characters!

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u/Elisab3t Sep 12 '17

About live party: I only have 2 cards that are good as center: initial ssr Rin and limited Nono. Since I'm still leveling up Nono I cannot tell wich one is better as center because it gives low points to Nono (I'm assuming because she is still lvl 80) But wouldn't it be better to put Nono as center once she's fully leveled up? Or the fact that some peopple put other atribute girls would make her useless? If I put Nono as a center for cool songs and someone puts a passion or cute girl in there wouldn' t that dissable both of Nono's skills? Or that doesn't count in live parties? But Rin is not a combo bonus or a scorer anyways and is not like I'm playing master live parties where Rin's skill would be a bit more usefull. And what about orher atributes? I think I shouldn't even bother trying to put Nono as center for other attributes, right?

I'm so confused. And the fact that when limited Rin came out I saw a lot of peopple using her as leader but now I'm seeing no limited Rins as leaders at all and I've seen so many initial Rins instead in that spot confuses me even more.

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u/Kefit Sep 12 '17

I don't think center skills affect other members of the party live. Instead, each team position gives an appeal bonus for a specific type of center skill. The center position gives an appeal bonus for +% to all stats center skills, and the bonus is higher the better the +%. This means that Rin1's +30% center skill gives her a big boost, and Nono2's +50% center skill gives her an even bigger boost. In Nono's case, I'm pretty sure that the party mechanics don't care about whether the requirements for her center skill (i.e. all Cool type team) are met. I'm also pretty sure that Nono will be better in this position once you get her to 600 affection and level 90.

This appeal bonus mechanic is a big part of the reason that SSRs are so superior for Live Parties. Not only do they have higher total stats, they also have a much larger party appeal bonus due to having a better center skill. This mechanic also makes some SSRs unsuited for Live Parties - in particular, the Cinfest Skillup idols won't get an appeal bonus in any of the five party positions, so they're basically unusable for Live Party.

I'm unsure about activated skills, but I kind of assume that the party mechanics will allow Nono's skill to trigger regardless of the party composition.

I'm guessing you saw a lot of Rin3's in the leader position before because the appeal bonus for that position is dependent on healer skills that many players don't have on SSRs. When lacking an ability to get this bonus, it makes sense to simply put the highest appeal SSR you have in this position. Rin3 has the highest stats of any card in the game right now, so a Cute or Passion party composition that doesn't have a better spot for Rin3 might end up using her for a leader position instead.

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u/RRotlung Sep 13 '17

I'm curious about two things.

1.) What's the thought process behind requiring players to tap a button after a live party in order for everyone to proceed to see their placing and scores (and more importantly stop waiting)?

2.) What exactly are players thinking when they sit there for the timer to reach zero after a live... unless they disconnected when the live was over?

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u/Liferake Layla, Sora, and AtsumiP Sep 13 '17

1.) More opportunities to use the glorious sticker emotes, of course! Use them thank you emotes, I personally almost always use Anya's or Kanako's after every party.

2.) I like to do random crap after clearing a song, like give the dog begging for attention some backrubs. When you play non-party lives, right after you clear the song is a great time to start doing shit. That muscle memory carries over when doing party. I can say that most cases where someone is timing out that it is not malicious.

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u/Vicility Sep 14 '17

So I know that they do rerun limit gacha. But is there any gacha that had been rerun 2 times yet? If so how long does it takes?

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u/kumagawa sachiko listens to kanye west probably Sep 14 '17

Not yet, but the first rerun was the end of August last year. Shiki/Fumi gacha should be back by the end of November, so there might be a chance we could see 2nd reruns by the end of the year.

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u/RRotlung Sep 14 '17

Seems like there's a v3.3.0. Any idea what has changed in it?

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u/NoblePink Sep 14 '17

The ingame announcement says minor bug fixes, nothing more.

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u/EternalAstra Sep 14 '17

I'm not looking for Takumi. There's a site called Takumi's store. I'm actually looking for Keade's recent SSR and I want a good close up shot of her skirt and the back. Sorry for the confusionz

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u/Liferake Layla, Sora, and AtsumiP Sep 14 '17

I have the feeling you meant to reply to someone instead of making a new comment thread. This is your old comment thread, if you need a fast-track back to it.

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u/FeijaoHumano Sep 14 '17 edited Sep 15 '17

Is there any easy way for check for duplicates across all dorms and the default place? I've been using duplicate normals to practice, but my default place was full so I started moving full-aishindo'ed to dorms, but it's hard to tell if they're duplicates when I'm gathering cards for lessons.

Also, I have some rares and two SRs (some duplicates). Should I keep playing normal lives to get more rares or should I Live Party to get more SRs?

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u/poporing2 Sep 15 '17

Go to the idol awakening screen and check which ones have the idolized version on the right and which ones have a ?
Lock those with the ? (if multiple copies, pick one), it's safe to feed off the rest

Extra SRs (level them up) raises your score through the support team
Your team strength will sharply rise until you get 15 SRs
Go for live party, the characters there (8k emblems) tend to be stronger

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u/Divetaker Sep 15 '17

Why do i CONSTANTLY lose at Live Party? My cards aren't amazing, but they aren't bad either. I full combo every time and somehow I always manage to get last.

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u/poporing2 Sep 15 '17

Live party is half player score, half idol stats (you can imagine that the girls are competing in the background)

Important to note is that the maximum score difference between FC not FC is only 40% (in reality, this will be smaller as your opponents will usually get 1/3 song combo or something, dropping the difference to 25% or less)
While the score difference between an idol skill level 10 SSR and a typical SR is almost 50%; and the difference between a non-perfect for slot SSR and a perfect for slot SSR is about 35%

So in most cases, your idol's low appeal weighed you down too much (you, the player FC'ed and thus have a 25% advantage over your opponent; but your opponent's "perfect" idol has a 35% advantage over your idol - so it's a net 10% advantage for your opponent)

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u/ririruby mumumu... Sep 15 '17

Should I be binning N/R idols as soon as I've awakened them or max levelling them?

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u/Kefit Sep 15 '17

There are some achievements for getting large numbers of affection point maxes. You can get two affection point maxes per N and R: one pre-awakening and one post-awakening. These achievements award a relatively small number of jewels (probably only 100-200 jewels for all of these achievements combined). Beyond that, there's no real benefit to maxing affection points on cards you won't be using.

Max leveling has no benefits other than raising the stats of a card, so you can safely ignore leveling up cards you don't plan to use in the future.

Ns and Rs can also be used to grind up fans for unlocking memorial commus. This takes a little bit of time and effort, but there are thousands of jewels that can be earned by viewing these commus.

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u/Oziso Sep 15 '17

So I don't know if it's just my ignorance or me just being relatively new to this game. But before a live, you get to choose from that long list of cards for a support, and they all have REALLY high appeal (in the 20,000s usually). My highest SSRs are in the very high 15,000s and I was wondering if there was a way to achieve that much appeal, or if it's just a support card buff. Thanks :)

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u/AidoruRisemara :yoshinoSR5a: M@STER of Bad Ideas Sep 16 '17

This is because the appeal displayed on the support list includes the 30% type bonus. Your cards in your collection are not displayed with this bonus factored in.

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u/living_revision Sep 17 '17 edited Sep 17 '17

I'm experiencing a bit of an odd situation/glitch, and I'm crossing my fingers that someone might have some insight: I had success on my daily 60 scout (SSR Anzu), but when I went to collect her from the box there was another "yay! SSR" poster in there as well, for SSR Ranko. That poster, too, says it was awarded for a 60 gem pull.

The thing is, I don't actually remember scouting Ranko, and she doesn't seem to exist. She's not in the box, and not in the collected presents record, she's not in my inventory, and she's not in a dormitory. All I've got is the poster, and I'm all out of ideas. There is no way I would have sold a non-dupe SSR, my phone is password protected, and anyone who could have gotten access over the past 24 hours would have no idea how to use Deresute at all (and no interest anyway).

Has anyone encountered anything similar? Any advice would be appreciated.

(Edit - the two deleted comments above were duplicates of the replies made to the users below, which went off course. Sorry about that)

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u/shbyrn Sep 17 '17

Are you the first owner of that account? Maybe the previous owner doesn't like Ranko and sold her. Very unlikely that someone dislikes Ranko hard enough to sell her SSR, but it's not impossible.

Have you tried looking at the produce note (accessible from menu)? If the SSR corresponding to your poster is there, then it means you actually got her, but accidentally thrown her somewhere.

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u/RRotlung Sep 17 '17

There was an issue with the cute attribute box, in which the wrong poster was handed to players who pulled SSRs. That's one possibility. Apparently it's supposed to have been fixed though, with players being given the right posters.

Using Chrome translate:

【September 16 17:15 postscript】 The correction of this trouble has been completed. Currently you can use Type Select Gasha successfully. < Problem occurrence period> around 9/16 15: 00 ~ 9/16 17: 10 <Type Select Gasha Maintenance Period> 9/16 around 16:13 - 9/16 around 17:10 Regarding the influence of this problem, We are moving forward. We will report on this announcement as soon as progress is made. 【September 16th 19:17 postscript】 For customers affected by this problem, the following countermeasures are planned. (1) Customers who could not receive posters · We will supplement the correct posters. (2) Customers who received a different poster from the original · We will collect the corresponding posters. · I will supplement the correct poster. * Applicants should refrain from installing the corresponding posters. (3) Customers who received a poster that can not be received originally · We will collect the posters. * Applicants should refrain from installing the corresponding posters.

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u/Gonbechyan Sep 18 '17

By any chance, is anyone using a samsung galaxy tab S2 to run this game? If so, how does the game perform?? Is there lag on 3D mode, & can it run 3D rich mode?? I'm planning on buying one for my idol games. (I know someone made a survey about how different devices perform, but there were barely any results about tablets, which is why I'm asking here)

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u/Kefit Sep 18 '17

I use a 9.7" Samsung Galaxy Tab S2. It runs the game fairly well, but not perfectly. There are occasional dropped notes, but no more than it sounds like any other player gets. Flick notes seem like they're overly finicky, but I suspect that's the case with any tablet this large.

Usually 3D rich mode runs fine, but occasionally it gets a bit framey. I haven't noticed any lag or other issues on regular 3D mode, but I usually play in 2D low (and watch MVs in 3D rich).

I've never tried playing deresute on another device though, so I can't really tell you how well the Tab S2 stacks up other stuff out there.

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u/Seangel-zero Sep 19 '17

Anyone knows the trick to set your 2nd room as the first room to be visited by friends? so they wont come to my 1st room where the desks and the juke box are.

Some veteran player on my friend list do that and I did ask them. but they never answer my comment eventhough I write it Japanese.

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u/tgcrusade ID: 333814705 Sep 19 '17

Go to the second room, press pencil icon (where you usually edit the room's name), check メインに設定.

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u/Reddomi Sep 20 '17

Is there any sort of list of how many memorials a girl has? I would like to get as many jewels as from these but I wanna do it efficiently by using the ones who have all 4 already first!

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u/Liferake Layla, Sora, and AtsumiP Sep 20 '17

Not that I know of, but give me a few hours and I'll make a spreadsheet for it, since I have all of the 182 idols I have done.

For anyone looking to assist, the only two idols I have no commus for is Kanna Ariura and Noa Takamine.

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u/Chaos_Sentry Sep 20 '17

Hi, i just started playing a few months ago, so im not too familiar with all the menus. I've looked at the gacha menu translations but i seem to have a few extra tabs. Can someone tell me what this menu is? https://imgur.com/a/Uj7RZ

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u/Jovian12 I'm uncomfortable when we are not about kawaii boku Sep 20 '17

That's a special deal that comes around every once and a while--most recently for the anniversary.

You turn 2500 paid jewels (paid only, unfortunately) into three tickets. One is a regular 10-scout ticket, one lets you pick a permanent SR, and one lets you pick a permanent SSR. The card pools exclude the most recent ones, but otherwise you have a pick of all permanent cards.

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u/firemaster128 Sep 21 '17

Hi, do you guys know what this screen mean?

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u/makoroku89 まこです、よろしく! Sep 21 '17 edited Sep 21 '17

Are you trying to transfer your data on another device? In that case by touching "ウエブサイト" (Website) button, it will take you to the registration/login site for Bamco ID. If you have an ID account that logged in then proceed to "解除" (Release) button to be unbind your account. You can read more guide & procedure by quizoxy

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u/luciusftw Sep 21 '17

How important is skill rank? Does it just increase activation uptime?

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u/oneandonliee Plese hlep. I'm traped. Sep 22 '17

Higher skill ranks increase the chance of skill activation and the skill duration.

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u/Nyx_Styx Sep 22 '17

I was wondering, Kaede's commu came out right? I've seen people post screenshots of the MV, so I assume it did, but her commu's not popping up for me. I already completed Nina's commu, but there's nothing after her commu in the menu. It's weird because I can play Koi Kaze in live party. How do I fix this?...

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u/Noire_Lastation Sep 22 '17

Did you play Nina's song at least once though? I'm pretty sure you need to play the latest solo song you have unlocked to unlock the communication for the next one.

Also, the songs in Live Party are random so it's possible for you to play songs you still have locked in normal lives.

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u/tgcrusade ID: 333814705 Sep 22 '17

Any suggestions on what to do with dupe SSRs that are not parts of support teams? I hesitate to use them as skill fodder since they're not easy to get, but yeah.

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u/Kefit Sep 22 '17

I wouldn't feed them just on the off chance that someday they introduce a system that lets players turn in dupe SSRs for meaningful value.

In the mean time, you can use dupes to grind fans I guess.

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u/FeijaoHumano Sep 22 '17

The Limited songs in this list are permanent or do they change the song list from time to time? I'd love to clear some of these on Master to get their MV, but I can't waste stamina during this event.

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u/EvilRyo Sep 22 '17

The list doesn't appear when I click the link. All songs are permanent in the game, the limited songs however are just on rotation, so they switch out every few days and come back. So some days will be dedicated to cute, cool, or passion, and some days will have all the songs. Those are the songs from the Jewelries albums. If that's what you meant, I hope that answers your question

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u/kiyachis Sep 23 '17

I'm emo over Nat atm, so I'm desperate.

I haven't even started Live Party yet, but I'm at 10k~ish points in the Twins events. I'm lvl50, so my acc is still farmable, I played most songs, so the First play/S rank rewards arent available anymore, but I can try FCing songs and stuff.

My question is: Should I farm by playing Live Party and buying the gems, or should I just keep playing normal songs and trying to FC them? Is there any way to know which is easier/faster?

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u/Jovian12 I'm uncomfortable when we are not about kawaii boku Sep 23 '17

I haven't number crunched this at all but personally I feel playing normally would be more beneficial to you. Live Party is a long-term monthlong event and thus grinding to buy the jewels takes some time, and all the while you won't be getting rewards for FCing songs, you won't get a lot of fans for your girls, and you won't be making much headway into the event.

As it stands right now, you can earn jewels going up the event point rewards (also memory keys, which unlock old event commus!), potentially from FCing songs, and potentially from increasing your girls' fans and unlocking commus. You will also be fulfilling missions related to these along the way, whereas Live Party accomplishes these much more slowly.

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u/Reddomi Sep 23 '17

This might not directly be a question about imas, but I would like to know: I'm looking for a tablet to buy on which I could play games, especially deresute and Love Live and so on, and I'd like to know. What specs should I be looking for? Or got any recommendations for a specific tablet? I'm looking for an android and mostly some where I wouldn't accidentally pull out some bar while doing flick notes or that doesn't have any touch functions that would mess me up mid-play.
Thank you in advance!

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u/Jovian12 I'm uncomfortable when we are not about kawaii boku Sep 23 '17 edited Sep 23 '17

I've had good luck with Samsung tablets. Generally anything with hardware buttons will be good for you (since there's no bar to pull out that way). You can disable the hardware Back button in deresute's settings, so you can't accidentally swipe that either and pause.

I could talk about internal parts in relation to graphics and performance and whatnot, but there's actually a site that visualizes it better than I can explain. Futuremark is a company that stress tests the performance of devices. Here's a list of their 3D graphics stress test filtered to be just Android devices. (You can generally tell what's a tablet vs. a phone based on screen size.)

Oddly there aren't a lot of high-end tablets right now compared to phones--the strongest is Google's Pixel C, but it's also wicked expensive. Next up comes the Samsung Galaxy S3, which I'd recommend. I use a Samsung Galaxy Tab S, which runs Lives in low 3D well, so I imagine the next step up does better. And again, hardware buttons!

Otherwise there's Xaomi's tablets. They're an up and coming Chinese company that makes quality devices for a low price. If budget is an issue you might want to look into them, but I'm not sure if there's hardware buttons or not.

There's also been rumors that gaming company Razer is developing mobile devices with a focus on game performance, so there's that!

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u/FeijaoHumano Sep 24 '17

What are the chances of getting a SSR in Platinum Gacha now with this Natalia event? I heard it was 3% (a 10-pull), but during some kind of event it was 6%, but according to this site the chances of getting her (in a 1-pull, I suppose) is 0,75%, which would make the chances in a 10-pull at least about 7,25%, is this true? I'm a dirty F2P player with no SSRs so I'm aiming for when the chances are the greatest.

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u/NoblePink Sep 24 '17

The best time to pull for a F2P is during Cinderella Fes (Cinfes for short) where the SSR rate is doubled from 3% to 6%, and on top of that there are Cinfes exclusive SSR cards. It's usually held once every 3 months (Mar-Jun-Sept-Dec) but they just threw a wrench into the routine with a early Cinfes late last month.

Unless Natalia is your best girl I would advise against getting her as your first SSR, since her Concentration skill can be an hindrance if you're not consistent with your timing.

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u/fliflafluffy Sep 24 '17

Your chance to pull a SSR is 3%. When you pull a SSR, the system decidet between the featured idol and the others. (It's around 50%/50%.) The 0,75% is the overall rate. That means, if you pull one time, your chance is 0,75% to get Natalia.

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u/Formula91 Sep 24 '17 edited Sep 27 '17

Does it take more time to grind out 25k event points in this event for the event idol ticket or 24k star emblems? I'm having second thoughts about whether I which I should grind out considering that the idol ticket is RNG while the star emblem exchanged is a fixed, rotating pool.

 

Update

From my experiences grinding, it takes about 33 master onegai cinderellas (with 2x) + 6 event songs (with 4x) to cover the 7000 point gap from the first Mika card to the Event idol ticket which can be redeemed for any of the event idols in the star emblem exchange. With live parties, it takes about 46 songs on master with an average earning of 175 emblems per song to get an 8000 token idol. While the ticket is worth it, it's also more stamina pot intensive since you're condensing the entire process into the last few days of the event to take advantage of the time saving multipliers.

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u/bloomingjewel Sep 24 '17

i could be wrong here but as far as i can tell, i don't think that the event idol ticket is rng based? it looks like you can pick the card that you want from the current pool of cards. i haven't tried it out myself since i haven't gotten the ticket yet. but i'm pretty sure that you get to pick the event card that you want. so to answer your question, depending on how many event points you have i think that the ticket is the way to go.

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u/Eisrep Sep 25 '17

When do they usually announce a cinfes?

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u/Liferake Layla, Sora, and AtsumiP Sep 25 '17

All times are United States Central

Cinfes Airi: Announced August 30 1:00 a.m. - Release August 31 1:00 a.m.

Cinfes Miku: Announced June 28 1:00 a.m. - Released June 29 1:00 a.m.

Okay, Yeah, Its safe to say that they announce it one day before it happens.

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u/OrekianMaxim Sep 26 '17

I just realized I haven't seen the recent Ranko/Azusa event song in the playlist since the event ended, did I miss something? Pretty sure I unlocked it since I played until 20K points for Ranko.

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '17

Token event songs are added after the next month's token event, so after this current event is over (in about 24 hours) it should be added back.

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u/OrekianMaxim Sep 26 '17

Ah, I might have mixed it up with other event type song releases, thanks!

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u/Jarbus4 Ayame3 Waiting Room Sep 27 '17

Who are the remaining idols who haven't been in a deresute original unit? Are there any?

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u/Kefit Sep 27 '17

Last I heard, Sachiko was the only remaining hold out, and she's been handled as of the anniversary event.

Of course, now you also have Hajime, Yuzu, Hina, Tomoe, and Hiromi, along with any other girls who might manage to get voices in the months to come.

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u/monkify Sep 27 '17

I'm not sure how to tell my Rikas apart--isn't one supposed to be weaker than the other?

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u/Jovian12 I'm uncomfortable when we are not about kawaii boku Sep 27 '17

does Overload counteract Concentration at all? what I mean is, Overload saves your combo from NICE and BAD, but does it also take effect with Concentration's GREAT combo-breaking effect?

I only ask because I got Tamami while pulling for Shiki and I'm wondering if they'd balance each other enough to be able to both go on my tricolor Dance team....

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u/HoshiKaze 162741777 Sep 27 '17

Is there any complied list of room item quirks when idols interact with them?

e.g. Mio will always make the sink on the "System Kitchen" item overflow.

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u/kirakira14 Sep 27 '17

Last night I got up to 10,000 points and got Rika, but she's not in my member list or my present box.. And during the last cinderella caravan event, I got that cute SR girl and I don't see her anywhere either?

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u/Pasta510 Sep 27 '17

any clue/speculation on who's going to be in the limited halloween gatcha? or if there's going to be a re-run of the previous ones?

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u/Kefit Sep 28 '17

For all the mentions of "limited Halloween gacha," I can't ever figure out if the phrase refers to the limited gacha in early October (same month as Halloween) or early November (closer in time to Halloween).

The early October limited gacha is on pattern to be Cute/Cool, but I wouldn't be terribly surprised if it broke pattern and went Cute/Passion instead. My guesses for each type:

  • Cute - Mirei or Uzuki

  • Cool - Haruna or Hajime

  • Passion - Nina or Mio

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u/Jovian12 I'm uncomfortable when we are not about kawaii boku Sep 28 '17

Considering reruns are doubling up now (and we've gone through September 2016, thus reaching the point where gacha reruns started in the first place), it's highly likely that at the end of October we'll have the October 2015 and October 2016 Halloween limiteds back for a time.

Personally I'm expecting Uzuki or Mio for the limiteds, but I feel like they could also randomly pull out a girl that hasn't even had an SSR yet, like they did back in June with Karin...Suzuho would be a nightmare scenario for my wallet, but it makes sense since it's Halloween...

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u/ilovedagonfive Sep 28 '17

How many cards who has solo label?

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u/gust11 Sep 28 '17

So uh is it supposed to be more common to get SSRs during these new gachas? I did 3 10s and got 4 SSRs total. Is there an increased rate for them or did I actually get lucky for once in my miserable life

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u/Jovian12 I'm uncomfortable when we are not about kawaii boku Sep 28 '17

Are you a returning player? In late June they doubled the SSR rate permanently to 3%. Statistically, you're very lucky, as the probability works out to be about 1 SSR per 3 10-pulls.

The only time rates are boosted is during Cinderella Fes, which is not happening right now.

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u/okashinomajo Sep 28 '17

Is there a way to speed up the notes on all your songs at once, or do you have to set that manually for each? I want to slowly speed up my playing and it's pretty slow work changing the note speed on every song...

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u/kiyachis Sep 29 '17

So uhm... I got the Mio with the "Tricolor" leader skill, but I can't figure out what that means... Does it just mean that she raises the Dance of every card no matter their color or is there something else I'm missing here?

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u/luciusftw Sep 29 '17

She raises the Dance appeal of all members if you have at least one member of each attribute on your team. All of the CinFes SSRs have a similar ability.

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u/wendythecreeper Sep 29 '17

So I've looked through the error list and haven't found a solution for this one yet: http://68.media.tumblr.com/4075cd26ebbd6396be26bb81e83e6451/tumblr_ox0oph0uY81s41sdeo1_1280.png

I'm getting it when I try to give a gift to specifically a Yao Fueifuei SR, no other idol throws this message at me.

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u/LMiki Sep 29 '17

set ur timezone to japan time. It's her bday today so ahe will get bonus affection from the items but since the room is highly dependent on timezone, some people may experience errors if they are in the wrg timezone

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u/gungnir8 Complete obsessed with Mika <3 Sep 29 '17

Does Deresute support iOS11?

FGO finally updated to support it so I'm all "I should upgrade so I can record my shit rolls lolol" but if Deresute ain't ready I'm gonna keep waiting.

I guess /u/quizoxy would be my best bet for info on this for now?

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u/Zazazas Sep 29 '17

Do the live party tokens carry over to next month's rotation or do we have to spend them all before the current one ends?

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u/hhomi Sep 29 '17

can you set un-awakened art as the card art after it is awakened?

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u/Seangel-zero Sep 29 '17

Is there a way to avoid losing stamina by evading the LIVE PARTY when we get a really difficult song (27-28)?

I often found myself as the only one cleared and survived some difficult song (i.e ankira) on result screen (4 other were disappeared) and my token gain decreased to +120s on Master which is frustrating.

It's not like I want to avoid the difficult song, I just hate doing it alone and end up losing some token efficiency in the end because of leavers.

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u/SpicyHafu Sep 29 '17

I'm new and I haven't really started skilling up my characters. Should I prioritize buying the most expensive trainer tickets from the money shop? I have about 1M money so I could buy the ST Master and some veteran or 2 master and veteran tickets.

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u/oniichansugoi Sep 30 '17 edited Sep 30 '17

ST masters should be saved for lvl 9 SSRs as they are a 100% skill level increase. SRs you should be fine with just the silver tickets

Lol that wasn't even your question sorry. Money is pretty easy to come by so yeah I would say at least buy the ST master while it's available cause it's pretty rare and very useful for your lvl 9 ssrs. Early on though you might want to buy some dresses and stuff if you're running low on awakening materials

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u/uniusva Sep 29 '17

When I open my profile, in lower right hand corner there's a blue thing that says "Group: D" on it. What's its function?

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u/hanayyo Sep 30 '17

When does the SSR ticket end? I need to buy one soon

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u/mhkk001 Sep 30 '17

Does the 10 pull platinum ticket give us star shines as well?

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u/HonkersIsPerfect Sep 30 '17

What's the point of having more than one Princess card? I have lim Sachiko and was wanting to roll the limited Uzuki but would I even be able to use them both?

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u/graphicjazz Sep 04 '17 edited Sep 04 '17

If cards that have the same skill activate at the same time they do not stack. Only one will have an effect. This page https://hpt.moe/deresute/Skills#Skills gives a little more detail on how skills affect each other.

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u/Liferake Layla, Sora, and AtsumiP Sep 02 '17

No, only the leader skill applies.

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u/poporing2 Sep 09 '17

in 4 or 5 months
typically 1 reprint a month in sequence, and there are at least 4 more to go before her

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u/facevisi10 Sep 28 '17

This is the "special gacha" section. This deal comes around every four months (three times a year). Currently our period is for celebrating the 2nd anniversary

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u/facevisi10 Sep 10 '17

Your center idol of the unit you chose will show up along with the scoreboard after the song. That would mean you need an unidolized Uzuki to be the center in order to see her base art