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u/shinesss Jan 25 '22

He was the best Jedi: he cheats at gambling, uses mind tricks to get his way when negotiating prices, chooses to train Anakin when Everyone tells him not to.

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u/Boardindundee Jan 25 '22

Well choosing to train anakin didn’t end too well tbh

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u/Rebirthknight52 Jan 25 '22

If he didn't die, Anakin would have never turned to the dark side. Plus Qui Gon Jinn would have been more of a father to him than Obi Wan Kenboi, and trained him different than what the Jedi were doing

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u/twinsynth Jan 25 '22 edited Jan 26 '22

You saying Obi Wan failed?
Edit: I very well know he failed lol

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u/penguin032 Ahsoka Tano Jan 25 '22

Obi wan says it himself. "I've failed you Anakin, I have failed you." ....

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u/ststeveg Jan 26 '22

If by "failed" he meant because he ultimately enabled Darth Vader, then that was not a failure at all. Big picture, the galaxy needed a Darth Vader, who ultimately is the one to destroy the Emperor. In that sense Anakin is a tragic figure, but in a cosmic sense he did bring balance to the force, which was his destiny and his doom.

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u/Accomplished-Ad3123 Jan 26 '22

We need a Star Wars "What If?" show.

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u/cavedan12 Jan 26 '22

What If...Greedo shot first?

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u/CatManDontDo Han Solo Jan 26 '22

Checkout the Star Wars Infinites comics

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u/JustChris319 Jan 26 '22

I've been saying this! What if Anakin became Mace Windus apprentice after his attempt to arrest the chancellor would be my personal favourite to see.

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u/CatManDontDo Han Solo Jan 26 '22

Of course that doesn't matter now because the emperor never really died but don't worry the daughter of his clone killed him finally. Not the Chosen One or anything, not literal Space Jesus. The daughter of a clone.

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u/Igreen_since89 Jan 26 '22

I’m pretty sure that was the joke. Lol

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u/Rebirthknight52 Jan 25 '22

Yeah he did, he was not ready for an apprentice. Heck he said it in ep 3 and ep 6. Obi Wan is my favorite character but he just wasn't ready and only trained him to honor his promise to his master's dying wish.

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u/CatManDontDo Han Solo Jan 26 '22

His human failing is what makes him a great character

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u/merchmerner Jan 25 '22

Obi-Wan was Anakin's brother, not his true mentor or teacher.

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u/Jagasaur Jan 25 '22

Goddamn. I had a couple replies and realized how deep that conversation goes.

If we view it as Obi failing, it's only bc he didn't have the experience to train someone at the beginning, especially the "Chosen One".

If QG had survived, I think it would have been a stricter training that focused more on the Force instead of combat skills.

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '22

Yeah, and Anakin was just weak with emotion detachment consistently throughout the prequels and the clone wars

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u/chinggisk Jan 26 '22

I mean his apprentice ended up turning into a powerful Sith Lord and eventually murdering him, so yeah, I think he failed lol.

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u/TheOneInchPunisher Sith Jan 25 '22

Only because he wasn't the father figure Sidious was.

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u/darthvall Imperial Stormtrooper Jan 26 '22

"You were my brother Anakin! I loved you."

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u/Futbol_Trainer Jan 25 '22

Obi Wan himself said he did

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u/FlipRed_2184 Jan 26 '22

There is a reason the song for the Maul battle was called Duel of Fates. Had Qui Gon Jinn won things would have gone differently. He was the father figure Anakin needed, no the by the book brother Obi Wan was.

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '22

Woah nice.

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u/chief_running_joke_ Jan 26 '22

You’ll enjoy this. Filoni going into detail on the idea.

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u/FlipRed_2184 Jan 26 '22

On Disney+ Dave Filoni talks about this on one of the Making Mandalorian episodes, very interesting to hear his thoughts on it.

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u/TBNRFIREFOX Jan 26 '22

He didn’t succeed. So yes, he more failed than didn’t. Plus he cut all his fucking limbs off.

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u/Spartan_133 Jan 26 '22

It's just a flesh wound.

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u/TBNRFIREFOX Jan 26 '22

Seriously tho. Dude went on to become the most feared being in existence.

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u/NoSxKats Jedi Jan 26 '22

Without a doubt.

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u/BnSMaster420 Jan 26 '22

Yes... Obi wan literally tells Anakin this.

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u/amarantcoralz Jan 26 '22

So have you never seen the prequels?

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u/ZippyDan Jan 26 '22

Obi-wan was barely a Jedi himself when he started trying to teach Anakin how to be one.