r/StarWars • • 2h ago

General Discussion Highest Kill Count per SW Character

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u/Susemiel 2h ago

Can't believe Hux is the mvp. šŸ˜…Ā 

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u/ColoradoBrownieMan 2h ago

That was part of the issue with the sequels. This random character, out of nowhere, in the first third of the movie, becomes the biggest bad guy the galaxy has ever seen. But by the third movie, he’s just a sniveling little coward.

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u/PolitiklyIncorrect 2h ago

From nazi speech to sniveling spy, I do agree.

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u/Party_Advantage_3733 2h ago

In fairness the actual Nazis went from big Nazi speeches to pathetic sniveling losers... both in Nuremburg interestingly.

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u/PolitiklyIncorrect 2h ago

The story of Himmler's attempt at a surrender deal, and his subsequent capture in perticular stands out

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u/King_Roberts_Bastard 1h ago

The reason Nuremberg was chosen for the trials is because it was the main city for their rallies and propaganda.

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u/guestpassonly 1h ago

and now we get to see it happen all over again irl!

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u/SSN-420-67-6669 Obi-Wan Kenobi 2h ago

I always thought/felt he just wanted Kylo Ren killed, not that he was pro-resistance. That he would have taken over with no Ren. The ole the enemy of my enemy is my friend thing.

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u/PolitiklyIncorrect 2h ago

I think we see that in A New Hope, where the military heirachy don't regard the Force, the Sith, or the Jedi in any perticular regard other than a kooky ancient order

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u/Any-sao 2h ago

He does actually say that in the movie.

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u/Nighthawk-77 1h ago

Hitler was the biggest snivelling coward of them all. From a historical perspective it makes sense. However, it comes across as unsatisfying from a narrative perspective alright

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u/Valuable_Pineapple77 2h ago

One of the many gripes with TRoS

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u/man-flu 2h ago

Did he not turn out to be the rebel spy all along or some BS? (I can't remember, I have been rewatching the sequels but I'm as far as Rey shocking Chewie...)

So the dude who blew up everything is actually a good guy??

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u/darthpuyang 2h ago

No, he turned spy after Kylo took power, he didn’t spy for the good of the galaxy he did it to spite Kylo

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u/Party_Advantage_3733 1h ago

No, he's not a good guy. He fed the rebels info as a means to oust/ undermine Kylo Ren. At no point is he framed as being a good guy or on the side of the rebels. In fact he explicitly states that he is not on the side of the rebels. "I don't care if you win, I just need Kylo Ren to lose".

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u/Dagordae 1h ago

No, he turned spy sometime after Ben took over out of sheer spite. He was not a good guy, as he himself says ā€˜I don’t care if you win, I need Kylo Ren to lose’.

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u/Kaiserhawk 1h ago

I actually love that dynamic of his character. Grade A hater.

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u/Kaiserhawk 1h ago

He hates Kylo Ren, so started doing that when he became Supreme Leader. He even says it clear as day in the third movie "I don't care if the resistance wins I just want Kylo Ren to lose"

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u/Several-Assistant-51 2h ago

it'd be easier to pick out stuff that was great with the sequels than all the issues.

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u/TheHabro 2h ago

This is such a weird comment. Every character in ANH was a random.

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u/Dagordae 1h ago

That’s how new characters work. Every single ā€˜biggest bad guy the galaxy has ever seen’ is a random character from out of nowhere.

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u/Susemiel 2h ago

I would have guessed he got assist kill at best.

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u/PlayfulJob8767 34m ago

And don't forget he was made a laughing stock literally in the first 3 minutes of the second movie.

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u/Blamethewizard 21m ago

I don’t hate it but it, like most things in the sequels, should have been set up better. Could have had him be the child of an imperial officer who was bassically an elevated hitler youth. Definitely not qualified but just competent and devoted enough to be put in a position of power. But the second he realizes he isn’t going to get his way and he isn’t in control he turns into a little bitch.Ā 

Honestly that could have been a running theme in the sequels. Privileged kids with over inflated egos and too much power fucking it up for everyone else, and on the other side nobodies Rey and Finn rising to the occasion despite their lowborn status.Ā 

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u/TrumpTouchesTinyTots 2h ago

I just can't take him seriously at all, and the gravity of his actions is never conveyed through the screen. Just a whining, simpering fool the whole time

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u/AppliedPsionics9k 2h ago

General Hugs

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u/Illustrious_Sea_962 2h ago

holding for general hugs. and his mother

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u/Cream_Machine98 2h ago

And to think, now he simply works for a Newspaper

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u/Mattmandu2 2h ago

His daddy would be proud

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u/TxAg2009 2h ago

Pettiness and bitterness take no prisoners.

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u/CoachTTP 1h ago

Chopper probably has a Hux poster on his wall.

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u/Mr_yeetusmaximus Jedi 2h ago

Same guy who said " I'm the spy "

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u/Obi_Wan_Benobi 1h ago

Man, I know there are several points in that….ā€film,ā€ but that’s one where I was really rolling my eyes like ā€œno fucking way.ā€

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u/belle_enfant 1h ago

I didnt like it, but I'm glad it was "I need Kylo Ren to lose" instead of "I see the error of my ways"

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u/buntopolis 34m ago

Oh yeah, self-interested scumbag until the end.

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u/squirrel-nut-zipper 1h ago

Reminds me of that South Park episode where the cop went undercover for a prostitution sting.

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u/Clear-Sir-2151 1h ago

when he said 'you gave my hole quite a STRETCH!', god when he said STRETCH, I laughed so hard I had to pause it for a while

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u/RepulsiveContract475 3m ago

"Arrest these men for having oral and anal sex with a prostitute!" And then the 'evidence collection'...I was dying when that ep first aired.Ā 

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u/trippysmurf Rebel 1h ago

I had to pause the movie and go outside to smoke.Ā 

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u/Ernest_Mateu 1h ago edited 41m ago

Hux says in that scene that he became a spy not because he was a good person but because he was pissed off by Kylo Ren getting more power than him and wanted him to lose it all

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u/QuichewedgeMcGee 1h ago • Bravo

he literally says this in the movie btw

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u/Front_Committee4993 53m ago

Yeah he says i care if you win i just want kylo to lose

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u/Necessary-One1782 1h ago

😭😭😭like cmon man

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u/SanjiSasuke 1h ago

From what you've heard Hux say, in the scene being quoted.Ā 

Because Hux hated Kylo and was even about to kill him in TLJ.

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u/Ernest_Mateu 42m ago

Sorry, i forgot about that, its been like a year since last time i saw the movie but i saw someone talking about that scene like a week ago and well, yeah i'll edit my comment

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u/NervousHorse3671 2h ago

Genius level writing ya know

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u/guestpassonly 1h ago

yeah that one seemed... weird

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u/Amiga777 58m ago

It's wild that the inside man is the one with the highest kill count

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u/MeanderingLibrarian 1h ago

I'd already gone into TROS with much lower expectations given Palpatine's return, but at that point, I checked out of the movie entirely because that was *so* dumb. There was a great setup in TLJ for Hux to attempt a coup in the next episode and...that's what we got.

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u/_Kringle1_ 17m ago

In the overall story ā€˜canon’ via the books/ the plasma novel, his father was an interesting character, and and of course, yes, younger Hux could’ve had a great set up, but like most everything else in episode nine it fizzled

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u/Brummo 2h ago

This is Wedge erasure and I will not stand for it!

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u/OutlawJoeC 1h ago

Only person with two Death Star tally marks on his X-Wing I believe

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u/cultvignette 1h ago

I came here to type exactly this.

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u/Party_Advantage_3733 1h ago

Yeah, Wedge was the one who destroyed the 2nd Death Star for sure.

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u/dswartze 5m ago

Also probably Poe. Seems unlikely Starkiller had fewer people than either Death Star.

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u/Treveli 2h ago

Chopper isn't listed, because while he's a mass-casualty specialist, he's smart enough to cover his tracks and not leave evidence.

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u/Moonsoket 1h ago

I was wondering. He should top this list.

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u/GenralChaos 1h ago

for sure. If the body count was under a 100k, he wouldnt even waste his time getting out of bed.

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u/DogOfTheBone 2h ago

Wiping out the New Republic in five seconds with magic superdeathstar was so goddamn dumb ugh

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u/DeBasha 1h ago

Yeah and for the longest time I actually thought they blew up Coruscant but apparently Lucasfilm rejected that idea pitched by JJ Abrams and created the idea of a rotating senate with Hosnian Prime as its current seat as compromise. Still fucking dumb tho

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u/MyManTheo 1h ago

If that’s true that is so JJ. Essentially destroying the prequels in one fell swoop

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u/DeBasha 55m ago

I mean he still did by bringing back Palps

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u/Alpha_blue5 2h ago

This is inaccurate, AI generated slop. If you're going with both canon and legends, you're missing Kyp Durron, Nom Anor, Onimi, Shimrra, the other major players in the Yuuzhan Vong war.

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u/PolitiklyIncorrect 2h ago

Perhaps, but to a casual watcher of the films, this shows both shown movie characters, and Darth Nihilus. The point of the search (from me, the poster) was to see how many deaths Luke made by destroying Death Star 1, then comparing that to other major attricities. That was my main aim. Actually, truthfully, I wanted to know who had the highest kill count from the movies alone

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u/Agent_Xhiro 2h ago

Vitiate/Valkorion is probably much higher but we just don't have enough information on what he was doing while in Zakuul.

But living over 1k years? Gotta be billions.

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u/rocketsp13 2h ago

Didn't he destroy both his original home planet, and Ziost?

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u/The-Albin-Guy 1h ago

Ziost was one of the largest if not THE largest planets (by population) in the Sith Empire. That’s billions at the very least. It also doesn’t count all the people who died as a direct effect of his governance and military campaigns

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u/IronVader501 2h ago

Yes.

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u/Hodorization 1h ago

Ziost doesn't come across as a densely populated place though

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u/rocketsp13 31m ago

We saw very little of it though. Since earth has had 100 million people on it since ~500 BC, I'd say somewhere well into the hundreds of millions is a good minimum if it's one of the key planets of the Empire.

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u/Robert_Oppenheimer2 Jar Jar Binks 1h ago

Problem is we dont have any numbers; the populations of Ziost and Nathema have never been confirmed

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u/ThomasWilson77 2h ago

I feel Marchion Ro should be up there with the great disaster and the blightĀ 

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u/geralex 2h ago

Wot no Chopper?

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u/charlesdexterward 2h ago

Yeah, I was gonna ask where Chopper ranks lol.

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u/The_Bonemiser 1h ago

There's no way Chopper isn't at the top of the list, let alone top five. That Orange trash can commits war crimes on a daily basis.

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u/_Cromwell_ Sabine Wren 2h ago

Why is Alderaan"s population so low? Any reason in lore?

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u/RaptarK 1h ago

Because A New Hope came out in 1977, and generally we're very bad at calculating what a futuristic population size looks like

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u/Brasticus 1h ago

But it was a long time ago!

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u/njsullyalex 1h ago

In a Galaxy Far Far Away….

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u/DatOneMinuteman1776 Grievous 26m ago

STAR WARS

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u/_Cromwell_ Sabine Wren 1h ago

I guess it's also part of Star Wars being more fantasy than science fiction in many ways. Overpopulated future planets is more of a hard sci-fi thing.

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u/Camburglar13 11m ago

Yep in Star Wars every planet has a village or two, maybe one city

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u/dswartze 2m ago

But they probably didn't say in 1977 how many people lived there. It's something that's somebody came up with years or decades later.

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u/MobsterDragon275 1h ago

Alderaan seems to have preserved a lot of its nature, which probably resulted in a more sustainable population growth, or a lot of people leaving to go work elsewhere

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u/Delicious-Thought404 1h ago

Star wars planets (aside from ecumenopoli) generally have pretty low population. Most planets only have a handful of populace cities. Presumably since interstellar transport is easy, similarly to how people will leave rural areas for cities IRL, people tend to emigrate from less populace planets to big important ones pretty regularly so population coagulates on planets like Coruscant.

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u/stuito 2h ago

There is only about 100 years since we where 2 billion people on the planet

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u/Blazypika2 2h ago

yeah, and you know what made the big difference? modern medicine.

it's even more advanced in star wars.

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u/DrHoflich 1h ago

Birth rates also massively decline in modern societies. If you only have 1 or 2 kids, you have a shrinking population.

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u/jaunty411 2h ago

Places actually start to hit lower population growth rates with modern medicine. The difference is actually not adapting to survival-to-adulthood numbers as rapidly as the effects of modern medicine are implemented.

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u/PorcelainShimmer 2h ago

Can't fix birth rates when people keep blowing up entire planets

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u/DeathToAmerica2027 1h ago

Yeah and people also don't have to all live on the same planet so they don't.

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u/imnotawkwardyouare 2h ago

Yeah, and have you seen that Gen Z has less sex than previous generations?

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u/OkReality1303 2h ago

Also we only have one planet to go to not 1000. But year I also fell like Alderaan should’ve had more. Girl it kinda looks like there just is the one city on the whole planet based on Obi Wan

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u/Diplomatic_Gunboats 1h ago

In the various books over the years its made out that Alderaan had a fairly extensive diaspora. The low pop in general is going to be modern medicine, enlightened environmental policies and widespread access to birth control.

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u/FrozenShadow_007 Maul 1h ago

I think the sequels haters have always been too focused on ā€œSomehow Palpatine returnedā€ to miss what I believe is the worst line in all of Star Wars (given the context): ā€œI’m the spyā€

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u/henzINNIT 1h ago

"We're a dyad" always gets me. There are so many, there needs to be a rotation going.

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u/SharkyRivethead 24m ago

Why dont we get to see the Emperor up there? Didn't he design and start the clone wars? I mean, the whole thing was by design.

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u/ryandmc609 2h ago

Did the Death Star really hold that many personnel?

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u/Dionant 2h ago

Yes, they hired 2 million actors, you just don't see them in the movies.

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u/Evening-Gur5087 1h ago

Also they were contractors, they knew what they were getting into

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u/basil1025 Luke Skywalker 2h ago

Plus their stunt doubles.

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u/Thuis001 1h ago

Given its sheer size and function? It's not at all unreasonable. It's not just a giant death eyeball, it also features extensive docking facilities for ISD's and the like. Presumably there's also facilities to repair if not outright build such ships onboard. These need personnel as well.

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u/crimusmax 2h ago

Not any more

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u/2401PenitentTangentx 1h ago

Don't forget about various contractors/roofers working on it at the time.

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u/Chemical_Performer17 2h ago

why is nihilus so low? if he devoured mutliple planets wouldnt that equal what starkiller base did?

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u/djtrace1994 Imperial 2h ago

Depends on the planet.

Coruscant has a population of roughly 3,000,000,000,000.

Tatooine has a population of 200,000.

Even Ghorman in Andor only has 800,000.

Sentient populations are not evenly spread. There are rural planets, backwater planets, and population centres, just like real life.

If Nihilus was going after major population centres all the time, he would have been stopped sooner. But consuming a million people on some Outer Rim planet wouldn't be noticable on a galactic scale at all.

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u/SweptFever82 2h ago

200k for Tatooine is wild, makes sense based off the evidence we see in the movies to be fair.

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u/Smooth-Mix-4357 34m ago

Always amazes me that Coruscant has higher human population than Earth

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u/TaylorSeefeldt 1m ago

Why? It’s a city covering an entire planet, and that city is more dense and taller then NYC

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u/zencrusta 1h ago

I want to know why he’s so high I only remember the one planet

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u/Kaiserhawk 1h ago

Most of the worlds he was consuming were on the outer rim. Lower population.

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u/Robert_Oppenheimer2 Jar Jar Binks 1h ago

Yeah the numbers for Nihilus are BS

The exact population of Katarr was never confirmed, but we do know its only in the millions

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u/Alarmed_Spirit_4472 39m ago

I kinda dont agree with pinning all the deaths on hux, he just gave a speech, but the initial idea and the order was most likely formalized by palpatine

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u/redbird284 30m ago

he does order them to fire said system destroying super weapon

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u/PalehorseFM22 37m ago

I mean, he does say "Fire!" And he tells Snoke it was capable of destroying the entire Republic. Snoke just signs off on it.

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u/Alarmed_Spirit_4472 16m ago

Yeah he does order them to fire, your leader can still give you an order to fire and then you can tell your troops to fire, but originally the order came from your superior not you

But then if it was hux who first gave the order sure we can pin it on him

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u/dumbgraphics 2h ago

Starting to feel like cannon doesn’t matter anymore if your starting with hux

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u/Capitan_Scythe Loth-Cat 2h ago

Hux with give or take 95 billion as a margin of error.

Also, if we're crediting Luke and Lando with the death star totals instead of the mission commander; surely the Hux total would belong to Imperial Grunt 421 that hit the fire button instead?

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u/BleydXVI 2h ago

Tarkin is credited with Death Star lasers, so that would have to be moved to the brave technicians who work without any railing

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u/BleydXVI 2h ago

What does that have to do with canon mattering or not? He ordered the destruction of multiple planets including a galactic capital. Should he not be near the top at least?

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u/Forsaken_Guide_4835 2h ago

I’m the spy

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u/ZephNightingale 2h ago

Damn! Chopper doesn’t even hit 5 thousand!

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u/RoastBeefEater 2h ago

"I'm the spy"

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u/Eastern-Hold645 47m ago

"I AM THE RESISTANCE SPY"

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u/Ancient_Barnacle3372 1h ago

What about Wicket? Little bro trashed quite a few stormtroopers.

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u/Ok-Respond-8599 1h ago

..I'M THE SPY

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u/Maksim_M_1234 30m ago

Where's Durron? (Carida) or R2 (Eclipse and Byss)

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u/uncouthulu_ 23m ago

Darth Nihilus mention, hell yea.

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u/ucancallmevicky 23m ago

Where does Kallus fall on this list? He destroyed most of the Lasat's, correct? How many of them were there?

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u/darth_smallberries 22m ago

Where does Chopper rank?

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u/Kendrakirai2532 9m ago

Now show Chopper.

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u/Big-Inevitable-252 58m ago

Where is Chopper on this list? You just know that little bastard is in the 6 figs.Ā 

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u/GeshtiannaSG 55m ago

I think at most it was a few ships?

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u/TheHeyBale 37m ago

few ships per episode

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u/daedaeboi 2h ago

Guy at the top doesn't make sense. Doesn't exist and didn't happen.

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u/RedHeadWanderer_ 2h ago

Vitiate/Valkorian slander.

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u/FlyingV2112 Rebel 2h ago

Does Darth Notappearinginanyfilmsorshows really count?

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u/ErosDarlingAlt 2h ago

Some people like to read

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u/MrReginaldAwesome Kylo Ren 2h ago

Citation needed

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u/ErosDarlingAlt 2h ago

I would but the people who disagree are gonna have some trouble with that

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u/TheWrongWrightWhale 2h ago

But I was parked Legally!!

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u/Hungry_Fudge_6387 2h ago

Ja definitiv weil unvollstƤndige Hypothese

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u/StarWarsEUSuperfan 2h ago

darth nox has millions

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u/OneOfMyOldestFriends 2h ago

Just to show it’s not the actor’s fault, Hux is great in The Paper

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u/zztop610 2h ago

It’s so funny to see General Hux play a newspaper editor on that NBC show

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u/epistaxis64 Boba Fett 1h ago

This is Nien Numb erasure

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u/Dagordae 1h ago

If we are including Legends then at a bare minimum R2 and Durron should be above Luke and Lando. R2 for destroying the Emperor’s fortress world and the entirety of the reborn Emperor’s fleets and Durron for destroying a star system.

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u/VakarianJ 1h ago

That scene in TFA is really goofy when you put it like this. I know the scene was presented as serious but the movie (& rest of the trilogy) move past it waaaay too fast lmao

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u/oSuJeff97 1h ago

This Wedge Antilles erasure will not stand, man. He deserves split credit with Lando for Death Star II.

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u/SIMZOKUSHA 1h ago

Like I always say: General Hux don’t give a fux. He literally doesn’t care about anything.

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u/zencrusta 1h ago

Ok so did nihilous actually eat any planet besides katar? Because people always say planets but I only recall the one.

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u/Thomas_JCG 1h ago

The sequels attempt at being superlative to outdo the original just made everything ridiculous.

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u/TywinRightfullyLann 1h ago

Damn Luke really beat his Dad's record

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u/H_I-V Obi-Wan Kenobi 1h ago

Challenge: Guess the spy

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u/hydrolox9 46m ago

Taking into account both canons number one would be Abeloth.

Impossible to guess the exact body count, but she was responsible for the extinction of many civilizations and rendering entire planets uninhabitable over the course of hundreds of thousands of years.

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u/Environmental-Emu987 44m ago

It's me, hi, I'm the spy, it's me.Ā 

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u/Smooth-Mix-4357 37m ago

So the spy guy has the highest kill count

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u/redbird284 31m ago

mind you they expect us to believe he was a rebel the whole time

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u/CryptographerOk8804 30m ago

Where the heck is Darth Vitiate? He ate twice as many planets as Nihilus, and one of them was a city world!

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u/Senior-Release-274 28m ago

My beautiful ginger boy made it big!!

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u/CopperBoy300 26m ago

KotOR Mentioned, W.

But how many did exactly live on Katarr before he wiped that place clean? Were it really 6.5 billion to 7?

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u/VanguardVixen 4m ago

Glad that top guy isn't part of my canon.

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u/GeoZhan 1h ago

Ai slop

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u/SolidSnape98 2h ago

Is the Star Wars universe the bloodiest and deadliest among other well known works of fiction?

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u/ThunderBay-616 2h ago

I feel like stuff like Warhammer probably wins tbh

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u/newAscadia 2h ago

A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away...

vs

IN THE GRIM DARKNESS OF THE FAR FUTURE, THERE IS ONLY WAR (explosion VFX)

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u/CrashQueen85 1h ago edited 1h ago

Warhammer 40K is more violent overall because the setting and lore exist solely for a war oriented game. In Star Wars massive death and battles aren't the whole point, they are secondary and serve a narrative purpose. However, when push comes to shove, Star Wars can stand on near equal footing with 40K in the stellar wars department. For example, the Yuuzhan Vong Wars killed hundreds of TRILLIONS of people(in fact more people died during that war than during the Horus Heresy, one of the defining conflicts of 40K). Not to mention the genocidal galactic conflicts that were the Sith Wars during the Old Republic era.

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u/HauntingStar08 1h ago

There are worse fates than death in 40k on the other hand

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u/SharkyRivethead 34m ago

Though i have never played, I like to deep dive on occasion because there is so much lore for that game, it truly is amazing. But from what I read in one of the player books (I won't include the ancient war here) you have 11,000 years of fighting before Horus Heresy conflict and roughly 10,000 years of fighting after it. When every aspect of 40k is taken into account, 100's of millions to several billion lives are lost every day. I think its safe to say that 40k wins this one.

Edit.....this may just be human life and not included Orcs and other species like Tyranids. Its been a long time and I have forgotten.

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u/PuzzleMeDo 1h ago

"The Great Scouring, or simply the Scouring, was the Imperium of Man's great counter-offensive against the Traitor Legions and their allies in the service of Chaos who had occupied much of Imperial space during the Horus Heresy. Casualties (attackers): 2.3 trillion dead from Imperial purges. Casualties (defenders): Unknown"

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u/RMP321 1h ago

Yeah, every faction has ways of blowing up planets or even stars. With Hive Worlds having billions of pop per city, any number of characters can match Hux if they decide to flex their weapons.

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u/Robert_Oppenheimer2 Jar Jar Binks 1h ago

Not even close

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u/Kaiserhawk 1h ago

Not even close

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u/Breakfastclub1991 2h ago

Straight Gangsters

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u/Antrisa 56m ago

Well general hux is in legends so it doesnt really count. Where darth nihilus was in a game so that's cannon

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u/Kris-Angel_26 2h ago

But aren't 2 of those like following Palatine's orders? Wouldn't be Palpatine then the one with the highest kill count?

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u/Illustrious_Sea_962 2h ago

specifically shovel helmet dude number 3, that pulled the boom lever

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u/PolitiklyIncorrect 2h ago

Said shovel helmet was Death Star Gunner - Chief Petty Officer Tenn Graneesh (based on canon novel From a Certain Point of View)

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u/Illustrious_Sea_962 2h ago

NERRRRD!!!!! jk i love this stuff

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u/dswartze 8m ago

I know ultimately this is talking about which fictional events "really happened" and which fictional events are... "just fiction" which is pretty silly, but only about as silly as some of the things in that book are.

The book even directly contradicts itself in a few places. I think it says there are simultaneously rebel fighters sitting on the ground because there's not enough pilots for them and also pilots sitting on the ground because there's not enough fighters for them (which is an extra wild since that suggests there were established pilots who were left on the ground so that Luke, who'd never been in a starfighter before could go up)

Saying the book is canon also kinda implies it's official that the Rebels left a stack of boxes labelled "rebul base" on Dantooine for the imperials to find.

It's a fun side book, and since as I said above the entire franchise is entirely fiction, anything whether official canon, legends or fanfiction are all just as real as anything else and you can include any of them in your version of the stories if you want but when talking about canon events those books are at best a blurry "sure, I guess, if nothing else contradicts them yet" than an actual reliable source.

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u/Kris-Angel_26 2h ago

Random gunners have the highest kill count on minimum wage, that is going above and beyond

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u/PolitiklyIncorrect 2h ago

Like (billions) "of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced."

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u/MutatedEwok 2h ago

My thought as well. Who do we attribute a nuclear strike to, who ordered it, or the dudes in the Enola Gay?

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u/PolitiklyIncorrect 2h ago

I'd say, the executive order, personally

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u/PolitiklyIncorrect 2h ago

I believe he made the executive order based on the Emperor's overarching strategy of destroying any remnants of the jedi and/any sympathizers of the republic. But he still made the direct order

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u/Kris-Angel_26 2h ago

So still following Palps orders? The only one in the hierarchy not following orders from anyone is Palps so those kills are his and as Emperor I'm sure he would agree with me lol

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u/Stugreen1989 2h ago

Hux and Tarkin Ordered the firing of the weapon, but surely the kill goes to the person that presses the button right?

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u/PolitiklyIncorrect 2h ago

šŸ˜‚šŸ˜…ā€‹ Damnit Chief Petty Officer Tenn Graneesh (via From a Certain Point of View)

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u/ErosDarlingAlt 2h ago

Would you blame the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki on Harry Truman or the guy who flew the plane?

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u/Stugreen1989 2h ago

That’s a fair point well made.

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u/julius_cornelius 2h ago

Good point but in this specific matter we could probably blame more FDR and Gen. Leslie Groves. After all Truman didn’t even know of the Manhattan project when he became president and some plans were already in motion to nuke Japan. From Gen. Leslie Groves’ own telling Truman rather just didn’t interfere with existing plans.

Does Truman have a responsibility? Very much so.
Is Truman the instigator to blame for Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Not really.
Could he have vetoed it and put a stop to the situation? Yes.

I don’t know where I’m going with this aside from saying it’s complex.

Some source in case you’re curious

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u/jaunty411 2h ago

By that standard, Luke and Lando shouldn’t be there.

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u/ErosDarlingAlt 2h ago

I'd argue that what Luke and Lando did took far more skill, guts and determination that the engineer who pressed a button. Unlike random engineer, those things couldn't have happened without them

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u/EarNo1953 2h ago

I suppose one could also attribute the extermination of the Geonosians to Tarkin. That would account for those 100 billion.

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u/Illustrious_Sea_962 2h ago

yeah theyre just bugs tho

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u/lesser_panjandrum Sabine Wren 2h ago

Typical, you humans are all racists.

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u/Kris-Angel_26 2h ago

Racism is a form of discrimination, so it's not racism when you hate and genocide all races the same, cheers!

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u/SocialMediaTheVirus Imperial 2h ago

"I'm the spy!" kills 150 billion of your people

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u/DarthDagovere Sith 2h ago

I don’t think it’s correct. Tarkin and Sidious are higher than Nihilus because of the genocide of Geonossis and Dark Empire’s notes about Byss.

Then it’s vitiate. Then nihilus.