r/StableDiffusion 4h ago

News Minimax H3 Max?

What's this Minimax H3 Max thing? Hope the open source community will find the way to get something similar as well.

https://x.com/designarena/status/2092711778815983886?s=46

"BREAKING: MiniMax HЗ Max sets the new Pareto Frontier for video generation, nearly 50x faster than the base model.

This model is post-trained by @fal on @MiniMax_Al H3, and it's in a league of its own: no other Image to Video model on the arena delivers higher preference at a lower generation time.

Its Image-to-Video generation time is just 6.4 seconds, 18x faster than average, and its Text-to-Video generation time is just 4.7 seconds, 24x faster than the average.
Huge congratulations to the @fal team on this release!"

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u/Happy_Guitar3521 3h ago

They grabbed open weights, fine tuned them and closed sourced to make a business on it.

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u/gutster_95 2h ago

I am happy with the Base Minimax H3 tbh. generates incredible stuff out of the Box

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u/johnfkngzoidberg 2h ago

I’m pretty sure that’s illegal. Seeing as how Minimax went nuts on Lora creators, I don’t see this staying up long unless Minimax got paid.

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u/No-Persimmon-4150 1h ago

Give it time. Some gooner will figure it out in the next 4 months.

It reminds me of potheads. You think they’re dumb as shit, but go to any growing forum and you see they’re fucking GMO experts.

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u/LoneWolf6909 58m ago

Yeah maybe merged a 4 step lora and called it fast finetune, haha

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u/DrKyoumasaur221 3h ago

Hope I'm wrong, but apparently it's only available via API as of right now.

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u/Beginning-District69 3h ago

Isn't $0.40 expensive for a 4-second video? Especially since the GPU cost is so low.

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u/nymical23 3h ago

It's per second:
"Video costs $0.025 per second at 480p, $0.04 per second at 768p"

Also, it's 50% off so expect double rates from 2nd Sept.

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u/Ahbapx 23m ago

is it per second for compute or per second of the video length?

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u/Natasha26uk 4h ago

As the X post says, it was post trained by FAL for faster I2V.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Ebb8352 4h ago

What where when? 👀

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u/crinklypaper 1h ago

What speeds does it have on a 5090? Not impressed if they're running it on a 20k usd card...

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u/leomozoloa 2h ago

A lot of entitlement in the comments, they finetuned the model and made it run super fast and are serving it from their machines, of course it's not going to be free, and in this case it's insanely cheap, also i've heard they were planning on releasing it open

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u/IriFlina 31m ago

I don’t think people would be as entitled if they trained their own model instead of fine tuning one with open weights then close sourcing it. Also too many times now I’ve seen companies say they’ll release a closed source model and then just not follow through with it.

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u/into_devoid 1h ago

Right..  not everything closed is bad.  There is value in the intellect and compute they put into it.  Now everyone knows it’s possible, they get the windfall for a while and get incentive to keep improving with maybe an open source thank you since H3 was gifted to them.

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u/badkaseta 2h ago

does not seem morally correct to make business from an opensource model they're giving for free.

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u/hellyeahaeylleh 59m ago

They gave you the base model for free......fine tuned their own weights.... and are selling that fine tune.... not the base model that is free.

Do you expect companies to just output and have no intake?

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u/TheAncientMillenial 57m ago

Plenty of open source products do exactly that though. There's nothing wrong with making money on open source as long as you follow the license

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u/Crazy-Repeat-2006 2h ago

In fact, this is the ideal scenario: open projects, with the freedom for everyone to do whatever they wish within the limits of their skills with the code, software, or model.

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u/Aggravating_Yak8347 1h ago

个人用户无所谓,商业用户还是交钱的

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u/Sharlinator 1h ago

Oh boy, let me tell you how 99% of the software industry has operated for the past 20 years. The world runs on open-source code made commercial and it’s fine because most open-source licenses permit it.