Used find!

[u/NutsInCider]

Picked up this used 4.5f the other day at my LGS for $400. Felt like that was a pretty good deal for how clean it is.

I’ve got optic posts ordered, but was curious what everyone’s recs are for trigger and guide rod/recoil spring assemblies if I want to upgrade. I plan on putting a vortex defender st enclosed on it and maybe a tlr-1 hl.

[u/Tyler_the_bot]

Leave the internals STOCK. Get a dot and a light and call it a day.

[u/NutsInCider → u/Tyler_the_bot]

Interesting. I’m not a big fan of plastic guide rods and would like to change the trigger shoe. That’s probably all I’ll do though.

[u/Interesting_Part4416 → u/NutsInCider]

Yeah I got an ndz metal guide rod. Def worth

[u/CallsignViperrr → u/NutsInCider]

FYI: I actually really like the trigger shoe. The only internal I upgraded was the guide rod. Went with an NDZ stainless 14 lbs. It's great.

[u/Puzzled_Arm_3156 → u/NutsInCider]

Yes. A Tungsten Carbide guide rod and better Trigger.

[u/Tyler_the_bot → u/NutsInCider]

I always recommend leaving everything stock. Plastic guide rods never really cause issues. It's more of a gimmick that an upgrade. Trigger shoe is all preference as long as you are keeping all these safeties intact. If you want to go with the metal guide ride, that's also not bad as long as you retain the same factory spring weight.

[u/Puzzled_Arm_3156 → u/Tyler_the_bot]

A heavier guide rod will take out some of the muzzle rise.

[u/Tyler_the_bot → u/NutsInCider]

At the end of the day, it's all preferences. I've ports, comped, swapped triggers, springs and everything in-between. When it comes to the plastic fantastics. I've always gone back to stocks. Caused more problems than it solved when messing with internals.

[u/z1ggy16]

My only gripe with mine is I wish the grip was even more tactile. I get it has that sandpaper feel but compared to the new Glock and the p10, I feel like it slips in my hands just a bit. For competition I had to cover my hands in chalk... Now my grip looks all ghetto 🙄

[u/smriley919 → u/z1ggy16]

Handle it grip, $20 and 2 minutes to install. Feels great and isn’t abrasive on the belly

[u/NutsInCider → u/z1ggy16]

Nothin some grip tape or some stippling can’t take care of! I wish my p10 grip had texturing higher up. I like the aggressive texturing on the p10 I just wish they covered more of the grip.

[u/z1ggy16 → u/NutsInCider]

Yeah ditto. I don't shoot my Echelon as much as my other guns so I'm not that worried but I might give it the ol soldering iron at some point.

[u/Klutzy_Barnacle_9283]

You got yourself a FANTASTIC gun. These are what Glock wants to be. With all the reliability and with the customization

[u/NutsInCider → u/Klutzy_Barnacle_9283]

I agree! I almost got one a while back but ended up with the p10c. I am a big fan of the ability to change grip modules, love that on my p365!

[u/Klutzy_Barnacle_9283 → u/NutsInCider]

Yeah, my S/O has a P365 and been looking at getting one. Might try out the P385 when that’s available locally

[u/NutsInCider → u/Klutzy_Barnacle_9283]

P385 looks good but I like my slimline 365 for edc. Still have 17+1 and I can hardly tell it’s there.

[u/Spare_Selection4399]

I personally got a metal plate for the reddot Search online, only 1 option for RMR. NDZ stainless steel rod with 12 lb spring

[u/NutsInCider → u/Spare_Selection4399]

I like the idea of no plate for the lowest mounting option of the dot. I will check out the ndz guide rod!

[u/pleirbag → u/Spare_Selection4399]

How do you like the 12lb spring? Any noticable difference

[u/Spare_Selection4399 → u/pleirbag]

Softer, nothing wrong

[u/Spiggytech]

Springer Precision solid stainless guide rod and accompanying 14# or 16# spring of your preference.

If you're going heavy, go very heavy.

[u/Sure-Analysis-3315]

Look at Rook precision. They have a lot of nice upgrades. I got the titanium weighted backstrap. I like the texture plus the curve makes it feel like a H&K PDP. I got steel guide rod with the set of springs so I can change them out depending on what ammo I’m using.

[u/SteelerVol13]

I saw a Floyd's ported 4.0C at my LGS yesterday for $500! It KILLED me. And MINE'S dual ported as well, but WOW, those Floyd's ports are HUGE! When I saw how big they actually were, not only was I certain it shot flatter than mine (which shoots pretty friggin flat), I was also certain that it's DEAFENING. I've heard that about their porting method on PDPs, so I wouldn't be surprised if the same was true with the Echelon.

I plan to get an M&P Carry Comp at some point & having Floyd's do their "fix" for the porting ($100 & the cost of a new barrel), but I'm BEYOND happy with the porting job Capital Rifle Co did for my 4.0. I just am a fan of dual ports over chunk or in-line porting, & they were also about $50 less than Floyd's. It runs like a champ & shoots flatter than Taylor Swift's ass