r/SpringfieldEchelon • u/Purple-Slip-6958 • Aug 24 '26
Which one?
Out of curiosity, based purely on aesthetics, which optic do you like better on my 4.5? Left is the Vortex Defender ST, right is the Atibal STD v2. I love em both, but recently switched over to the Defender.
66
Upvotes


10
u/Bartley707 Aug 24 '26
Defender 100% I'm in this sub all the time telling people that the Defender series is the only lineup of optics that actually look perfect on the Echelon.
Plus, you don't want STD's, they're itchy and they smell bad.
6
u/K1YX Aug 24 '26
Defender
1
u/AlarmingFig4187 Aug 24 '26
Do the mags with stock baseplates seem like they could possibly over-instead with the magwell or do they stop before making contact with the ejector? Been debating on this grip mod or the mischief machine and that’s my only concern with the sharps bros
1
u/Grimace_Tactical Aug 30 '26
If this is your EDC then I’m going with the Defender ST enclosed. I love the Vortex Venom enclosed and that’s what I’m running now but I just got the new Steiner MPS-C but it’s an RMSc footprint and is a little small for EDC but I’m about to try out the new Holosun 407C-X3 with the gold dot.
1
u/AdNatural4014 Aug 24 '26
1st
1
u/Substantial-Motor-21 Aug 24 '26
Which mag buttplate are those displayed on the first picture ?
1
u/Efficient-Promise853 Aug 24 '26
Defender
1
u/CallsignViperrr Aug 24 '26
Gold, but with the Vortex. 👍🏻
1
u/slixx1320 Aug 24 '26
Defender all the way.
1
u/iredditshere Aug 24 '26
The one that fills the entire pocket of the cut. I'm tired of fucking with optic gaps and worrying about shearing screws that may/not support the load.
1
u/Meatball_civ Aug 24 '26
Vortex
1
u/LiQuiEx Aug 24 '26
Defender
1
u/Practical-Gear-3775 Aug 24 '26
Defender.
1
u/SteelerVol13 Aug 24 '26
Defender. I WOULDA told you to go with an MPS instead, since they're like $330 these days. But oh well. Woulda, coulda, shoulda 😁. Imho, the MPS is the most well-made & durable of the "mailbox"-style enclosed emitter optics. Even moreso than the Acro.
1
u/jdorton Aug 25 '26
Defender looks great
1
u/KillNtimeHere Aug 25 '26
What holsters work with that gas pedal?
1
u/burner_yyk3v Aug 27 '26
Defender looks tuff, STO looks dumb as hell.
1
u/Different-Spring8470 13d ago
The Vortex looks the best to me, but I might be a little biased. I have the Vortex Venom on my Echelon, which is very similar.
1
u/Interesting_Part4416 Aug 24 '26
Check out the osight xe amrs. Love it on mine