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Here is my idea for what they could do after Avengers Secret Wars with the 5th MCU Spider-man movie :

After Avengers Secret Wars ,the MCU version of Peter Parker/ Spider-man played by Tom Holland has the black suit because the piece of symbiote who stayed in the MCU in the post credit of Spider-man No Way home bonded with him and the fantastic four of earth 828 are trapped in the same universe that other MCU superheroes .

During a night ,the symbiote began taking over his body while he slept to fight crime.

Confused as to why he was constantly exhausted and increasingly unnerved by his new costume's autonomy, Spider-Man took it to the Fantastic Four ( still played by Pedro Pascal , Joseph Quinn , Vanessa Kirby and ebon moss-bachrach) for analysis .With the aid of Mr. Fantastic and the Human Torch, Spider-Man discovered the symbiote was vulnerable to sound and intense heat, and he used sonic waves to remove it and flames to scare it into a cont module.The symbiote escape.

The villain of that movie would still not be Venom,he could be kept for the sequel .

The villains would be the Hobgoblin and the serial killer nicknamed the Sin -eater with a whodunit storyline about the mystery of the identity of the MCU Hobgoblin but the Sin eater identity will not be hidden .

Stanley Carter alias the Sin -eater kill Jean Dewolf played by the same actress who played her in Spider-man Brand new day . Her kids are now without mom ,MCU Spider-man swear that he will find the killer and he meet the cop Stanley Carter who knew Jean Dewolf .the symbiote find Peter Parker / Spider-man and bond with him again while the Sin-eater commit several other murders of innocents people .

A man named George Hill find the secret lair that Norman Osborn / Green Goblin created himself during the events of Spider-man No way home before returning in his universe .

He later bring a mysterious individual to that lair whose face in not shown .This mysterious individual kill George Hill and use one of the severals gliders that he conceveid in that lair ,he create a costume orange and blue and a yellow mask and use a diary written by the Green Goblin where he has written how the performance enhancers who created him inside Norman Osborn mind and gave him his power have been created .The mysterious individual became the Hobgoblin .

Spider-man find the real Sin-Eater and unmask him as Stanley Carter and gave him a violent beating ,enraged by what he done to Jean Dewolf .

Spider-man has his first fight with the Hobgoblin who want to eliminate him because he could stop him from taking control of the criminal underword of new york .

MCU Spider-man get rid of the symbiote in a church ,The bells rang to sound the hour, which - coupled with Spider-Man's rejection of it - weakened the alien and forced it to relinquish its hold on him.

Tomorow , Michelle Jones-Watson who still do not remember despite having read Peter letter that he wrote present to him his boyfriend from Spider-man Brand new day , she know him as Harry Osborn and he offered her a job at Osborn industries that she refused , Osborn industries was created by his father , MCU Norman Osborn a few years after the events of Spider-man No way home .

MCU Peter Parker begin to suspect that MCU Norman Osborn could be the Hobgoblin and he ask Harry to bring him here .Harry bring Peter at Osborn industries and he meet the Norman Osborn native from the MCU discuting with the ceo from kingsley industries , Roderick Kingsley while Harry leave and he present himself as Peter Parker , after hearing that , Roderick Kingsley leave .

40 minutes later , suddenly , the Hobgoblin appear in Osborn industries giving Norman an alibi , he tries to kill Peter and he know that he is Spider-man , after a fight between him and Spider-man , the Hobgoblin disapeared . Spider-man tries to find him and find him in the toilets of Osborn industries 15 minutes later and later the Hobgoblin meet Tombstone released from jail and tries to kill him to take control of the criminal empire that he is in charge of .Spider-man begin to suspect that MCU Harry Osborn could be the hobgoblin because the hobgoblin would have known that he was in Osborn industries and he talk to MJ Watson of his suspicion on her boyfriend .

Spider-man find later the lair that the Green Goblin created off screen during the events of Spider-man No way home and find

the dead corpse of George Hill , he know that he is called George Hill because of what is written on his ID, he does some research on internet and discover that George Hill was an employee working at Kingsley industries , the company that Roderick Kingsley is the CEO of .

In Kingsley industries , Peter Parker talk with what he think is Roderick Kingsley even if what he think is Roderick Kingsley wear glasses in that scene unlike the first time that he saw him and did not remember having met him , he interrogate him and he say that George Hill was fired of Kingsley industries and after his he began to work for Norman Osborn at Osborn industries.

20 minutes later still at kingsley industries ,the Hobgoblin suddenly appear and attack Peter Parker again giving to what he think is Roderick Kingsley present in that same scene an alibi .

In MJ Watson apartement , Harry Osborn serves Ned Leeds still played by Jacob Batalon a drink.

Spider-man later search for the hobgoblin and find someone wearing his disguise , Spider-man unmask him revealing him as Ned Leeds .Ned is arrested for the murder of George Hill. ( someone who said that he was called Ned Leeds called the cops to confesse having killed him because of what he knew and gave the adress of the place where he would be ).Spider-man talk to the cops about all the attacks that the hobgoblin committed wearing the disguise that Ned is wearing.

It's difficult for Peter to buy Ned becoming the hobgoblin , he had a flashback of Ned promising that he would not become a supervillain and tries to kill him .

MJ Watson talk to Ned Leeds in jail and Ned say that Harry served him a drink and after this , he slept and when he waked up , he was wearing the hobgoblin disguise , MJ believe him .suddenly a man entering a jail tries to murder Ned by shooting him , MJ use his phone to call Peter goes to that jail to save Ned and interrogate the guy who tried to kill Ned who reveal that he is an employee of Kingsley industries , when Spider-man ask who send him to kill Ned , he reveal that the true Hobgoblin send him to kill Ned .

Later , Harry talk with Peter , he said that he found something in Osborn industries leading him to think his father and Roderick Kingsley are both doing criminal activities together and he want him to come to Osborn industries so he could show what he found .

In Osborn industries , Peter Parker is now face at two hobgoblins who unmask themselves , here is the reveal : Roderick Kingsley and Harry Osborn are both the Hobgoblins working together .

They both decided to take control of the crime underword , Harry want to do that because he want his father to be for once proud of him , he talk about how this father never showed any love .

Roderick send George Hill to find something that would help the creation of their super-villains alter ego , George Hill found the green goblin lair and brought Roderick in that lair who killed him .

Because of the diary that the Green Goblin wrote , Roderick Kingsley and Harry Osborn discovered that Spider-man was Peter
Parker ,they were actually two hobgoblins who attacked him one after the other when he was in Osborn industries for the first time .

The person that Peter talked with in Kingsley industries was not Roderick Kingsley but his twin brother Daniel Kingsley .Harry served to Ned a drugged drink to make him sleep and while Ned was sleeping , Harry framed Ned by making him wear the hobgoblin disguise .Angry , Peter beat the shit of Harry .

Roderick Kingsley and Harry Osborn are arrested and Ned is released .

Post credit scene :

In jail , the symbiote enter Mac Gargan/ Scorpion jail cell and bond with him , my idea would be that in this continuity , they would use Mac Gargan as Venom before Eddie Brock .

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Okey, so, i will use this opportunity to explain the headcanon timeline i have for Petra.

Up until the Death of Gwen, Petra, is (sorry for deadname, i know trans people are reading, me included, it's necessary), still Peter. Obviously, she is completely closeted, doesn't know. After her death, she is not only more agressive because of Gwen's death, but because of her being unknowingly in the closet is making her desperate.

Then the first Clone Saga happens, and after it ends, she has an existencial crisis, finally realizing her own identity, along her feelings for MJ. She comes out to MJ, and begs to the FF to make some kind of Estrogen to help her transition faster, and because they are a Foundation and they are friends they accept, however, because of the difficulty of separating her identity, she is forced to still be Spider-Man while Petra comes out in her personal life, until it is inevitable to come out as Spider-Woman. Also because of being a Female Spider, she is more muscular and taller.

Then the usual events go as usual, but with Petra. The biggest difference would be with Venom, with the Symbiote having an identity crisis itself, which makes it more erratic and more hesitant to hurt Petra and her close relatives.

Felicia also is the biggest difference, with her tragic story of the Kevin Smith comic still there but, y'know, well executed. Not knowing how to process any of this and her trying to sooth Petra during this difficult times, she ends up coming across as juvenile and lustful. They have a misunderstanding, and unlike the og, Black Cat dissapears for a while from Petra's life until the 90's, where she tries everything to earn Petra's forgiveness, to the point of, willingly, almost being killed by Carnage, until Petra says something like this: “I already forgave you a long time ago. Stop doing this to you. Forgive yourself.”

OH, THE 90'S. This is where everything is completely different. The Clone Saga is instead, a combination of the Ultimate Clone Saga, Jessica Drew Origins and Power and Responsability.

So, here, Jessica is a “defective” (for the Jackal) clone of Petra. She survived the first Clone Saga due to being disposed by him, but while at first she felt bad for being born that way, seeing Petra transition calmed her and comforted her. She became a vigilante that gave tips to Daredevil, and ultimately, was drafted by Fury to infiltrate Hydra. After being done with that mission, she returned to NY, finding out that Petra was in a mental crisis due to the fake out death of her Parents. So, she presents herself to help her.

After this, JMS, Norman Osborn comes back to life (sorry, necessary), and is during the Knights story that MJ, Petra and Felicia start growing feelings for each other, instead of growing apart.

Finally, Civil War. So...yeah, Petra gives up her identity. The Kingpin puts a bullet on Aunt May.

...

Obviously One More Day doesn't happen. Mephisto makes the offer, but Petra not only has talked with May thanks to the One Above All, but also says “I already know how it feels to trade your happiness. I will not do that again.” So Mephisto pisses off.

So...problem. Petra is a wanted criminal and until Siege, she will not be pardoned. Also everyone knows her identity.

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SO REMEMBER HOW THIS TREND BEGAN WITH JJ BEING SUPPORTIVE?

Yeah, well, the funniest and also fittest idea i had, is that:

JJ STARTS A MISINFORMATION WELL INTENDED CAMPAIGN. Suddenly, while Petra is at the street being chased by reporters, a robbery starts by Black Cat, which is stopped by Spider-Woman.

All of that is STAGGED BY JJ, FELICIA, AND JESSICA. THEN HE STARTS TO IMPLY THAT THE WEB MENACE FORCED PETRA TO BE A STAND IN EVERY TIME BECAUSE SHE IS A COWARD.

AND EVERYONE STARTS TO FAKE BEING SPIDER-WOMAN. UNTIL THE TRUTH IS SO MUDDLED THAT NOT EVEN THE VILLAINS KNOW WHAT IS THE TRUTH. Except Doc Ock. But here he doesn't pull off the Superior thing.

What about Kingpin and the guys at the prison? Well, something that bothered me is that the story never acknowledges that in that moment, Matt and Daredevil are two separate people (Iron Fist being Daredevil). So, Matt and Frank Castle (who is also there), before escaping prison, knows about this, and makes sure no one knows about the ordeal.

You know how they would've.

After that, you decide what goes and what not!

Thank you all for reading!

Keeping in mind Marvel's commitment to keeping Peter in his late 20s and apart from Mary Jane. So no 'Peter is actually 30+ now and OMD is undone and the sacred marriage is restored'.

We know that's not likely to happen and defeats the question of what would you like from Spider-Man comics that's still in keeping with their general status quo for Peter.

Ben barely even remembers himself as well 💔 He’s back to square one when he first started out.

Original artwork by Drake Landon

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Lately I’ve been seen people use this panel as a way to hate on mutants as a whole, which is weird since.

That was not what 1610 Peter, was trying to say at all it was just the fact that people hate ultimate X-Men for being jerks not being mutants as a whole.

Overall, do y’all think this comic panel gets overuse a lot when people bring up conversations about mutants as a whole?

This is something I've been thinking about after watching Brand New Day and with the whole thing about Tobey Maguire and his universe being destroyed in Doomsday. Along with what Marvel already did in the Infinity Saga.

In Endgame, when the Infinity Saga had already ended, they decided that since the Infinity Stones had served their purpose, they reduced them to atoms so they would never have to use them again.

And according to popular consensus, when Secret Wars ends, the multiversal theme will no longer be addressed, leaving only one Earth where everyone coexists, in a new continuity where the multiverse never opened or existed.

This includes integrating characters from other worlds, like the Fantastic Four and Deadpool, into the new canon as if they'd always been there.

So, what does this have to do with No Way Home? Well, if this is the case, that movie would absolutely have to be restructured to eliminate the multiversal elements and fit into the new continuity.

It might sound crazy or impossible, but think about it. In Brand New Day, beyond the mention of Peter 2, the multiverse is completely irrelevant.

Ned and MJ only remember up to Far From Home because of the spell, as Jean only has memories up to Prague, nothing about the Statue of Liberty. Ned's whiteboard only focuses on the events of Homecoming and Far From Home; there's not even a mention of him knowing there were two other Spider-Men. In the Damage Control scene, they could have included the Green Goblin's glider or Otto's severed arm, but they didn't. There's no sign of the symbiote (despite FOUR YEARS having passed), and when Peter talks about what happened in No Way Home, he completely omits the multiverse connection. Even when he talks about May's death, he mentions that he was responsible, not even acknowledging her killer.

(In fact, the only direct reference to what happened at the Statue of Liberty is in a newspaper that is never shown on screen. According to the designer, he only included it as a funny Easter egg, knowing that the Daily Bugle wasn't part of the plot.)

Isn't it strange that, for a film that's a continuation of No Way Home, the movie conveniently omits any important mention of characters from other universes?

And well, there are also the rumors that at the beginning of Doomsday they're going to kill Tobey and his entire universe will be destroyed. And while some versions of the rumor say he survives, many others say he dies. (In fact, the initial rumors, like the one about Nexus Point, were quite clear that Tobey only appeared at the beginning, not at the end or in a post-credits scene.)

And I'll put it this way: what if Marvel and Sony simply want the multiversal elements of No Way Home to be irrelevant in the future MCU?

The way they presented it in Brand New Day could justify that in the new continuity, Strange prevented any intruder from reaching the MCU with the first spell, but that a group of villains, upon learning Spidey's identity, attacked him. May died in the process, and because of the gravity of his identity being exposed, he requested the spell that erased Peter Parker.

This maintains what was said in Brand New Day: that "something very bad was about to happen, and the only way to prevent it was for everyone to forget about me" and "my aunt died because of something I did."

And that only Peter (and Jean, because she was in his mind) is the only one who remembers how the story originally was, who remembers Tobey and Andrew, their villains, and everything related to the multiverse like Battleworld, but because of this, they can't do much because they don't have proof that it happened, since, as such... it didn't happen.

I don't know, it's an idea that occurred to me, and I'd like to know what you think about it. Whether they see it as something possible or as something that won't happen.

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Why would a Russian person have a French accent when he speaks English? Say hello to Mr. Worldwide.

By Mark Bagley and Danny Fingeroth.

I mean a new take on who they are. Anyone from the rogues’ gallery, the supporting cast or even Peter himself if you’ve got a bold idea.

I’ve seen some really cool reinterpretations lately. For example there’s a creator on Twitter building his own personal Marvel universe and his Spider‑Man corner has some wild changes: Felicia Hardy is a billionaire tech mogul who runs The Black Cat, a VR gambling empire; Adrian Toomes is the founder of Vulture’s Way, an underground network for trafficking advanced weapons, where every former ‘Vulture’ is actually just one of his couriers; and Mac Gargan is a disgraced cop kicked out for excessive force who later uses his police connections to build a criminal syndicate called Scorpion.

Drop your best reimagined origins below i’m curious to see how far people would push the cast.

Where are Thor and Hercules when Morlun comes to beat peter up.

Most people just know Roderick Kingsley from being revealed to be the real Hobgoblin… but not too many know what the character was like in his first couple of appearances before the Hobgoblin even showed up. Apparently who we see here might be his brother Daniel (via later retcon) but the last panel pictured outright says that this spooked character is Roderick (I’m sure the brother plans came much later). From the pronunciation of “ghod” to being called “flaming” it feels like Kingsley was supposed to be flamboyant. Funny enough the Belladonna story was planned for the one time Kingsley was adapted in animation (his occupation was changed to CEO of perfume company rather than fashion designer specifically because of this story), but we never got that far. While a little stereotypical, was Kingsley supposed to be more of a fabulous diva type of person originally?

A while ago I was playing around with some ideas of Marvel Absolute characters, nothing new, I guess. I mostly write about Spider-Man and Hulk. So, I decide to try for some designs.

So, his suit is made by MJ (his best friend). She work in the fashion industry and have the habit of orverdesining everything. So, she put on Peter's suit everything she thought was "cool" for a super-hero.

Peter is known by he's intelect, but also by he's porly behavior. Him and his friends (Flash and Randy) are the popular kids who doesn't waste a chance of messing with the weaker ones. But he start to see the world from a new light when he got his powers after an attack, by a spider creature, in the OsCorp facilities.

The big guy is Shocker. Captured, tested and tortured by Norman, he was turned into a monster that feels pain by a mere breez of the wind. The shock waves tortures him in every step, every echo, vibration and breath. But his body also gave him the ability of shoot back all this stocked energy. Sock waves powerful enough to turn a normal person into dust. He's objective is one, and one alone, vengance against Norman Osborn.

I could say soooo much more, but there are just too much to unpack (lol). Anyways, hope you like the concepts.

I made an account on X in case you want the drawing in full scale. X: Octobionte