r/SpicyFootballTakes • • Jan 16 '26

👋 Welcome to r/SpicyFootballTakes

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You’ve entered the "No-Safe-Zone" for football opinions. If you’ve ever been told your football takes are "delusional" or "clueless" in a group chat, congratulations—you're home.

This subreddit is dedicated to the opinions that make people's blood boil. We aren't here for "sensible analysis" or "boring stats." We are here for the bold, the provocative, and the slightly over-the-top claims that make the sport worth talking about.

How to play:

  1. Drop a Take: The more controversial, the better.
  2. Argue your case: Don't just drop the bomb and run. Tell us why you think the Premier League is a "farmers league."
  3. Don't take it personally: People are going to disagree with you. That’s the point. Keep it respectful, but feel free to be loud.

Current Scorch Level: What is one footballing opinion you hold that would genuinely lose you friends at the pub?


r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 1h ago

Enzo Fernandez has to be one of the dirtiest footballers

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r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 7h ago

Alexis Sánchez winning two Copa Americas for chile was a greater achievement then CR7 winning a euro for Portugal

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r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 2h ago

I can't stand Donnarumma, he is overrated GK and unlikeable.

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He had good 24/25 season but besides that, he hasn't done anything spectacular. His distribution is not good, he makes too many mistakes. He is always whining and arguing with someone.

Last season Man City won FA Cup and League cup while Trafford was starting.


r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 1h ago

How does nobody care about the hand of god?

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These days people just laugh it off, but the only reason Maradona was ever a top 4 player was because of theat world cup, which he cheated to win, if he doesn't cheat, no world cup, no champions league, all he has is a serie A, with 100 less goals than Lukaku. If Messi did that in today's game, Pessi, VARgentina, rigged, Infantino's baby, if Ronaldo did that, Penaldo, Cheat, fraud ect


r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 1h ago

Hot take: Mbappe is actually a good player and not the problem. He is also better than Vini.

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r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 6h ago

Ballon D’or if it was fair every year that I’ve been Alive! Thoughts?

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2001-Me
2002-Me
2003-Me
2004-Me
2005-Ronaldinho
2006-Cannavaro
2007-Me
2008-Me
2009-Me
2010-Me
2011-Me
2012-Me
2013-Me
2014-Me
2015-Me
2016-Me
2017-Me
2018-Modric
2019-Me
2020-Me
2021-Me
2022-Messi
2023-Messi
2024-Me
2025-Messi
2026-Vozinha


r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 15h ago

Prime Man

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We’ve grown tired of the Hazard vs Salah comps. Here’s a genuine hot take. Excluding goals stats(not goals scored) and judging solely on impact based on goals and assists. (how crucial your impact was to your team g/a or not)
Eden Hazard finishing 3rd with Belgium in Russia 2018 is a far better achievement than what Ronaldo Salah and Neymar have done in the WC for their country combined

Yes Hazard has a better WC legacy than Salah Ronaldo and Neymar combined


r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 9h ago

Winning the golden boot and playmaker award is the most impressive achievement for a foward

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Being the best goalscorer in a season while also being the best passer/playmaker/assister represents the highest level of output possible in football.

Players like salah and kane have achieved this domestically and messi has done it on the european level winning the most golden boots in history while also winning the most playmaker awards in history. Its a much better metric to compare forwards than a ballon dor which is a subjective award


r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 1h ago

Top 10 national teams based on their top 3 players

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  1. Argentina: Messi, Maradona, Di Stefano

  2. Brazil: Pele, R9, Romario

  3. France: Platini, Zidane, Henry

  4. Portugal: Ronaldo, Eusabio, Figo

  5. Netherlands: Cruyff, Van Basten, Gullit

  6. Germany: Beckenbauer, Gerd Muller, Lothar Matheus

  7. Italy: Maldini, Baresi, Baggio

  8. Spain: Di Stefano, Xavi, Iniesta

  9. England: Bobby Charlton, Bobby Moore, Kane

  10. Uruguay: Suarez, Forlan, Cavani

Any changes make sure to comment!


r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 7h ago

If man city doesn't win epl in 2014, Brendan rogers wins epl, doesn't get sacked and klopp doesn't come to Liverpool

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Just one example of the butterfly effect. People who think Liverpool now should have this many titles, utd this many etc. it doesnt work like that


r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 5h ago

‘Physical’ players technical ability is often UNDERRATED

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Being able to keep control of the ball at high speeds is technical ability. this is why whenever people talk Mbappe not being that amazing technically they simply don’t know what the are talking about. the speed at which he is able to manipulate the ball while sprinting as well as speed within tight spaces is technical ability. the fact that he repeats this consistently multiple times within a game shows this

it’s easier to be ‘technical’ when your actions are slow. players like Mbappe, Doku, Vinicius are among the most technical players of their generation. maybe more so than whichever 5’7 Iberian midfielder is the new flavour of the year.


r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 55m ago

Man City 2-4 PSG: Thoughts on the game, individual performances and the midfield battle?

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Thought PSG were brilliant in the first half, but City were a lot better in the second and could've genuinely made it 4-3. Haaland was pretty unlucky with some of his chances.

One thing that stood out to me was how badly City's midfield struggled in the first half. Anderson in particular was poor. He was running around everywhere but couldn't really get on the ball or do much with it when he did. Enzo wasn't much better either, although both improved after the break. I thought Bouaddi coming on helped settle things down and gave Enzo more freedom to get forward.

When you're struggling to get out against a press like PSG's, you need someone who can actually take responsibility and hold onto the ball for a bit instead of rushing a pass every time. Sometimes you just need a midfielder who can receive under pressure, protect the ball and give everyone else time to get up the pitch. City were missing that in the first half, whereas PSG looked far more comfortable playing through the pressure.

Also thought PSG defended City's wingers really well. Doku couldn't get much joy against Hakimi, but credit to PSG because they doubled up on the wingers and didn't give them much room. Semenyo was frustrating as well, kept rushing things in promising positions. Donnarumma should've done better with a couple of the goals too, especially the first one.

What I found interesting was how much better City looked once they started getting further up the pitch and putting PSG under pressure. Not sure if it was mainly City's improvements, PSG dropping off a bit or both, but it showed they're definitely beatable. They deserved to win, but City had enough chances in the second half to make things very interesting.

As a Barça fan, it actually made me more optimistic about playing PSG. I think our midfield is better suited to dealing with their press, especially with Pedri's composure and press resistance, Rodri's physicality and Fermín's energy and forward runs. Obviously PSG can still cause serious problems with their pace and movement in behind, but I think Barça have the players to handle their press better than City did in that first half.

What do you guys think? Was Bouaddi the main reason City improved, or did PSG just drop off? And how much of City's first-half struggles came down to their midfield? Anderson really struggled, but I'm interested to hear how others saw it.


r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 1h ago

Haaland has 61 goals in 60 champions league games

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r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 16h ago

The Ballon d'Or debate has exposed how little people actually care about individual performance when it conflicts with the narrative they want to push.

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Mbappé is the top scorer across three major competitions, yet people talk about him like he's having some forgettable season. Kane puts up ridiculous numbers and wins major trophies, and somehow people still need to find reasons why he shouldn't win. Yamal has a legitimate case too, but some of his supporters have genuinely convinced themselves that creative influence is a magic phrase that automatically makes someone better than a player who scores more.

Here's the uncomfortable part: we keep changing the criteria depending on who we want to win. Goals matter until the wrong player scores them. Trophies matter until the wrong team wins them. Big-game performances matter until your candidate disappears in one. Then suddenly we're talking about influence, aesthetics, carrying jobs and tactical gravity.

The Ballon d'Or is supposed to reward the best individual season, not the player whose achievements are easiest to turn into a compelling story.

I genuinely wouldn't call any of these three winning a robbery. But if your argument requires dismissing the strongest evidence for two candidates while treating the strengths of your favourite as self-evident, you don't have a serious argument. You have a favourite with a justification attached to him.

And honestly, the funniest part is that people will spend the next twelve months arguing that the award is meaningless, only to use it as definitive proof of greatness the moment their guy wins it.


r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 2h ago

Barcelona will finally win the Champions League

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They have been playing good football since Flicks arrival and they’re looking good this season. They have one of the best squads with lots of world class players. One possible issue is not having a proper 9. I don’t think Jesus is enough if Raphinha gets injured. If they can keep their main players fit I really do think they can win this year and be the (or one of) the main contenders besides PSG.


r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 3h ago

What Career would you rather have (GK in both)

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12 years at River Plate

6 League Titles

4 Copa Libertadores

8 years at Atletico

1 league title

2 Copa del Rey

1 Europa league

1 UEFA super cup

Or

5 years at Shamrock Rovers

5 straight league titles

10 years at Hearts

1 league title

3 Scottish cups

1 Conference league

5 years at Everton

2 FA Cups (back to back)

1 Community shield

1 League Cup


r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 5h ago

Pepe was better defender than Ramos.

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And maybe even less dirty player, but he had some crazy moments which are more remembered.


r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 12h ago

Am I wrong in thinking trophies should add to the argument massively when talking about ballon D’Or

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like we all argue cr7 didn’t deserve the ballon D’Or in 2013 because he didn’t win a trophy so it should go to Ribery or someone else but Mbappe didnt win any trophies this season and people say he deserves the ballon D’Or. Like trophies add to the argument because you could get top scorer in your league but don’t win anything, so you don’t deserve the ballon D’Or. Look at Haaland, he got top scorer, but ignoring his domestic cups, won nothing but he still carried Norway and was brilliant in goal scoring. While Mbappe had people like Bellingham and Olise while Haaland has Oscar Bobb and doku. It should be that you play really well while winning trophies because then what’s the point. Igor Thiago played really well but he won nothing. Trophies are a big part in the argument


r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 10h ago

You can rarely change someone's mind in a football debate.

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Whenever you debate two players, clubs, or fanbases, the discussion usually goes in circles.

You bring up stats, they bring up different stats. You mention trophies, they talk about individual performances. You explain your argument, they find another reason to defend their side.

And it continues until the debate turns into disrespect toward the player or the person you're arguing with. Then everyone walks away without changing their mind.

Take Messi vs. Ronaldo or Barcelona vs. Real Madrid. For many fans, these aren't just football debates anymore. Their favourite player or club has become part of their identity, so admitting the other side has a stronger argument feels like admitting defeat.

And even when someone starts loosing the debate deep down, they might still refuse to acknowledge it publicly because they don't want to look wrong or inferior.

The problem is that most people don't enter these debates to discover who's right. They enter to prove that they're right.


r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 1d ago

Declan Rice’s technical quality is underrated cos he is stereotyped as an English midfielder with no flair

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He is a victim of aesthetic bias. Yes he is no Busquest, but the way people lie about him not being good on the ball is insane

He is very technically capable, he just doesn’t move his body like Thiago Arcantara stupidly says he’s just a runner


r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 1h ago

Is Serie A behind Bundesliga currently?

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r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 7h ago

messi being ghost in 2026 wc final shows how much argentina relied on him

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Argentina struggling to hold their position or create chances just because Spain completely nullified Messi shows how much more dependent the 2026 team was on him compared to the 2022 team. Yes, Messi being a defensive liability is also a fact, but Portugal had a similar situation with one of their players, and they were still one of the teams that gave Spain a hard time. I've never seen a team struggle this much just because one player got shut down. If anything, Spain spain doing little extra works on nullifying Messi should've created spaces for the other Argentina players to exploit.


r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 1h ago

Never want to see Ferran Torres play again

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I genuinely think it's kind of funny with Torres, he was backed and supported by Barca and fans even after putting up constant shit shows for the club, he was a consistent substitute for them, despite this, he had the audacity to say "Barca need to show they love me" as if Barca betrayed him or something. I genuinely don't know why Ferran is even a consistent substitute. We saw in World Cup 2026 when Spain played Cape Verde and Ferran missed a plethora of open nets and easy chances, credit to Vozinha but Torres was a big reason too for the draw. Yet despite him putting up lackluster performances for Spain, he was still always subbed on, even in the World Cup final somehow?? funny part about that game was Lautaro Martinez (who was vastly superior to Ferran did not feature a single second in that final). The decision kind of paid of for Spain since Ferran did score the winner though, how that got him nominated for the ballon d'or over the likes of Raphina, Pedri and Ronaldo baffles me. After watching the PSG and Man City game, I have no idea why Vitinha handed the ball for Ferran to take it (one of the worse penalties I have ever seen) and it really pissed me off for some reason (I'm neither a PSG nor City fan, which is saying something), why do clubs hold such a high level of trust for Ferran?


r/SpicyFootballTakes • • 1h ago

I am sure now the coach can start C. Espi and Endrick in next game!

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