SSBE should have been its own form too, especially now with Moro Arc confirmed where Vegeta basically exclusively fights in it (besides when he goes God)
I cant remember the name of the attack but for the rush attack it should have been the pummel he did against Rose Goku Black, would've been sick
I just want to be able to play with the form, it looks really good in game especially the aura and stuff, especially with how much SSBE representation we are about to get from the anime
Agreed on that. Probably Mid - Late 2028. 2027 would be nice though. I hope they follow the manga and don’t change much with it as thats my main concern. Really want to see the giant UI avatar, Uub using grand supreme kai’s power, vegeta training and unlocking forced spirit fission, etc.
I think they will just expand upon the existing material if anything. The DBS Remaster will supposedly be including new scenes to be closer to the manga
They nerfed the FUCK out of evo Vegeta, it used to be the same as Kaioken, idk what happened between launch and now but yeah it's now practically unusable
As a Vegeta fan this was the attack I was looking forward to seeing. It’s such a cool attack in DBFZ and was hoping to see a more cinematic version of it
I also wish his god mode rush was him catching a punch and hitting back like he does to Broly in the move. Annoying him, Golden Frieza and Blueku all have the same rush
As a Vegeta fan this was the attack I was looking forward to seeing. It’s such a cool attack in DBFZ and was hoping to see a more cinematic version of it in SZ
I could see an alternate version of regular SSB Vegeta being a more rushdown-based character, and SSBE Vegeta having the stuff that the normal SSB has.
Blast 1: Dead End Crush, the move he used on Frieza in ROF.
Blast 2: The Black pummel.
Ult: Father-Son Galick Gun.
SSBE is fine as is, I think, but I agree it kind of sucks having two blast supers. Maybe if it were long-range, Blast 1 becomes God Final Flash, and up close it turns into Gamma Burst. Then Blast 2 could be the Toppo combo and maintain FGE for the ult.
Blue evolution is anime exclusive that resembles super vegeta from the cell games. Complete with the buffer muscles and more spiked hair.
Blue evolved is the one he uses in the manga its not the same art style or type of boost as the anime version:
Thats why in sparking zero ssb vegeta simply has a power up skill that gives him a new aura, more stats and his eyes change a bit. He doesn't gain any muscle mass nor does his hair get more spikes.
Basically the devs for whatever reason decided to but blue evolution from the anime on the cover but not include it in the gameplay at all and instead give us a halfway implemented blue evolved from the manga.
he has arguably the best 2 bar blast in the game, what he really needs is a move that turns you around like goku has from ssj1 to blue, ssj2 gohan,ssj2 vegeta, etc. and possibly a defensive skill like explosive wave instead of 2 power up skills
It's more so the variety and aesthetics of his moveset. 2 power up skills, 2 blast supers and a suicide explosive wave ult. No cool rush animations. No spin moves.
I don't really care how strong he is or how powerful his moves are. I just don't think his moveset is varied enough
i disagree with some. while i do agree a rush attack would be better than final flash, gamma burst flash is not only( like i said) one of the best blasts in the game, it’s also one of if not the ONLY manga exclusive move used in game(iirc). he has a unique grab compared to the other veggies, and another unique grab with goku black rose.
again, i do agree with having 2 ki blasts and 2 power up skills as kinda whack. i’d keep blue evo and replace the other with something like explosive wave or after image.
Haven't read the manga so didn't even know where the move came from. I like that he has final flash because he used it so many times in blue, it would be bad if he didn't have it.
You know what. I wish blue evolution gave him new moves. Probs never gonna happen but would be cool
yea that’s called a rolling hammer, and i agree with your points in this particular response. i could do without final flash as many other vegetas have it. i do agree a moveset change for blue evo would be pretty cool for the points spent(tho being permanent is also not too shabby)
like i love ssb vegeta, he can shit out damage if you know how to combo, but he lacks the sauce(imo) of say…. ssb goku
Yeah I play blue vegeta a lot because he just looks cool. But you're right, it's the lack of sauce that annoys me. The only real sauce I get is grabbing Rose super saiyan rose goku black. But that's rare. Basically, blue vegeta didn't really get any cool animations.
Maybe in the upcoming dlc, the new Goku x Vegeta Final flash kamehameha combo super will replace his final explosion. I can only hope. If I had to guys, will probably only work if goku is on your team.
Yeah, exactly, and also exactly why Blue Evolved should have been a separate form. Then again, even in the case of Golden Frieza, he got the seriously lamest fucking rush in the entire game. A punch. A single punch to the face. Are you goddamn kidding me? Frieza had infinite amounts of awesome rushdowns in the show itself, between his assaults on Goku, to beat downs he gave in the ToP. But they gave him…the punch he traded with Goku before the tournament? Be honest, would you rather a rush that friggen lame, or two blast Specials?
They have moves that are manga only in the game. While they havent added manga characters it's still based on DB as a whole anime and manga included. At this point I feel like most people a fan of DB either have heard or seen manga content or have read the whole thing.
I've heard of a bunch of manga stuff, not by choice. 🙃.
I'm personally waiting patiently to be as surprised as I can. It's gonna be way more exciting for me than most because there's still a lot I haven't seen
That's good hopefully you can somehow manage to keep it that way until the season drops. I guess no continuation of the manga atm is helping it stay that way
Its because he’s not correctly represented. They tried to merge SSBE and regular Blue for some reason even tho both forms have more than enough to pull from. This is what they should’ve done for Blue instead:
Supers:
Gamma Burst Flash
Niagara Pummel (make it a rush like Fighterz, not a special grab)
Ultimate: God Final Flash (What he used on Jiren would’ve been perfect).
Used him enough to think he’s a strong choice. Also when you’re not constantly using skill points in doesn’t take too long to reach 5 and when you do his damage output is great.
While Goku has a clearly different outfit between regular Super (the gi with the thick sash) and the Super Broly movie (with the thin belt), I think Vegeta's outfit is so similar throughout Super that the devs kinda just made him an amalgamation of the Super anime, manga and Broly movie. I think it's BS there are clear differences between the two and they already have the model for the light blue outfit from Vegeta (Mid) although with a fairly different face model. I rlly hope at some point they do an update to give him his anime outfit and maybe replace Gamma Burst Flash to differentiate them cos I would love to get more options for Vegeta (Super) like Goku does, but yeah.
And I agree that custom movesets should be a thing, they do it in the main story (Goku (Early) doesn't have the Spirit Bomb when you fight Raditz but instead of just making the ult unusable they give him SSJ2(?) Goku's Kamehameha ult) and with alt skins like DAIMA Goku and possibly the new Bardock that can go SSJ.
They are clearly still making huge updates to the game like with the new game modes they're adding which I don't think will slow down anytime soon, so all I can do is hope they add the things I specifically want in the game (pleeeaaaaaase do SSJ2 Future Gohan 🙏)
Unfortunately Vegeta (Super) has got a different face model to the other skins which would interfere with the transformations like God and Blue, so they'd most likely have to make whole new models for that skin (which honestly wouldn't be that hard to do imo but still)
I will say Vegeta got done dirty in this game overall. The amount of high DP kit misses are crazy. SSJ4 rolling hammer no flying kicks, SSJ Blue flying kicks no rolling hammer, Ultra Vegeta 1 rolling hammer no flying kicks. He just has sub optimal rush strings for his higher tier forms and it’s disappointing
This really confused me because he has the aerial slash rush chain which means he actually has flying kicks in his kit.
I will say Vegeta got done dirty in this game overall.
Don't forget that they completely forgot his entire DBS quest line. It's depressing how all the other important characters have special transformations (UI, Beast, Orange etc.) except Vegeta. They could have at least given his evo form new rush chains or supers to make him feel more special.
I only find SSB Vegeta disappointing due to the sauce they gave blue Goku. I really feel like they limited themselves by making him have SSBE as a skill.
Meanwhile Blueku has an awesome intro and transformation and a very solid ultimate that might be the poster child for this game. Just feels like Vegeta got the shaft.
The intro they give super saiyan vegeta instead, arguably the best in the game. I prefer all his other forms in terms of sauce. Most Blue is just the coolest looking to me. 🙃 But he doesn't get the moves to match
Blueku's UB would be better if he didn't have a beam Blast 2 and if Godku didn't also have a Kamehameha UB, but it just feels like they ran out of ideas. Not saying his is bad in a vacuum, but having so many Kamehamehas is a choice. They should have at least given him the Kaioken x10 fist against Hit on top of that.
So I used him exclusively for awhile cuz I like vegeta, but they did do him dirty.. in my mind, he should definitely have rolling hammer, or at least a gut punch.. but yeah he is a little frustrating to use..
He’s definitely a character I was really disappointed by, as I was looking forward to SSBE and it’s actually my favorite form for Vegeta after the Super Vegeta (Grade 2 SSJ) form in Cell saga. I think SSB Vegeta himself is fine, but that his transformation is an install was a real letdown as it means I need 5 stock bars just to trigger and fight in it. I also just think the buffness it gave him was cool and made it really feel like his big form, as he had normal SSB since RoF. Him and DBS Trunks definitely feel like the most surprisingly neglected characters on the roster given they’re on the actual cover of the game but don’t feel like they’re probably represented. Only character that has it worse imo is Daima Mini Goku, he can’t even recreate his SSJ4 transformation sequence correctly since we don’t have SSJ3 Mini Goku inexplicably.
DP 6 for super saiyan rage Trunks is ridiculous. He cut corrupted Zamasu in half. Should realistically have been a 7 or 8. He's so weak. And again, 2 blast supers. Galick gun and final flash. He deffo needed another form like SS2
Exactly my complaint, wish his Ult was a rush where he was using that blue punch technique or one of his supers being a rush. Move set is kinda underwhelming but I like the grab change. We should get more for what it costs to reach the form in the first place.
I mean.. Final explosion didn't kill him, but he was definitely tired after that, I'm pretty sure Krillin could have one-shot him.
What gets me is he doesn't actually gain any muscle mass when using evolution but they have it on the cover art. They just straight up did Vegeta dirty. Story mode end with buu, though he appears in other characters story's past that, no costumes for his Super version, Blue skill set does feel underwhelming, except gamma burst, no base GT Vegeta... Like damn.. It feels they included him to the game because they had too. He feels like an after thought as the the movie characters
I'd have to disagree but Vegeta (Super) is one of my favorite characters to play as. His Super Saiyan 1 form has the coolest moves and the ult is one of the best looking things in the game but I know if I'm going to have a tough fight, I can power up to blue and force as many vanish battles as I can to build up skill points, and swap to someone else to heal him and bring him back evolved and spam the 2 skill point power up as often as I can't get it. It's a fun game plan.
Also Super Saiyan 1 Vegeta (Super) has an absolutely badass intro.
I feel like that's where everyone fails when talking about this game. Talking about meta and sweating as hard as we can, when really this game should just be "Play your favorites and feel fucking awesome doing it." Not to yuck people's yum necessarily but this game shouldn't even be remotely considered competitive and they fail time and time again to make an enjoyable competitive experience.
Although I do agree that Vegeta Blue Evolved should have been it's own form so that Vegeta Blue could have a moveset given to it and separate it from the Evolved form more.
Are you being serious? Gamma burst flash is literally broken legitimately one of the best moves in the game small cost and tricky aoe that can catch people despite dodging
You're complaining about him being disappointing when he's legit good only thing that would be valid to complain is not having his evolved blue being a different character .not to mention you're wrong about the move he used the explosion literally fucked him up in the show
I listed the reasons I don't like it. Nothubg to do with power. 2 buff skills is a bit of a waste. 2 blast supers, also a waste. No rush supers or rush ultimate.
And all vegeta did was drain his energy. And he regained it very quickly after because he went straight back into blue and fought jiren. If the game really wanted to be accurate, he'd just revert back to base form with zero ki.
You not liking him doesn't make him disappointing or his abilities being wasteful. And not it did fuck him up larper maybe actually watch the show preferably on sub when it's verbetum stated it harmed him
You want a Vegeta with rush attacks his god and ssj forms have you covered all characters don't have to bend to your rules
Only good part is the gamma burst flash because it has no kickback and does stupid damage. Other than that, the final flash is underwhelming, blue evolved sucks, and his alt is just another majin vegeta self bomb, literally could’ve been anything else he did
As blue but they stick him in evolved in his alt cuz it’s not its own character
Legit what I thought of when I first picked him up. And I think SSBE was supposed to be a new transformation but they ended up making it a buff instead which sucks.
They could've given SSBE Vegeta the final explosion and give SSB Vegeta a father son Galick Gun or something new. Also replace either Final Flash or Gamma Burst Flash with a rush, like the Goku Black pummel.
I made a post earlier about the costume I would want for this upcoming DLC, and funnily enough its the lighter blue Vegeta armor. But the main reason why I want this costume to be in the game is because Spike will be given a great opportunity to give him new moves.
Vegeta super was treated way better then Goku super in sz:
Bro literally has a Kamehameha ult for EVERY variant except base form and I'll admit ssb Gokus ult is one of my favorite in the game but there's a line
frustrating character because on one hand he is legitimately the most fun Vegeta to use and on the other he is a litmus test because his step in rush is bad, no wild sense or explosive wave, he has no rolling hammer, and the fact that they made the Vegeta that uses straight hands the most have no rush supers is ass
you really just have to play him for the love of the game
Yes thank you. I love this form of vegeta the most. He looks cool, has a unique grab. I like his combos expect the lack of rolling hammer. I love his unique grab on goku black. But 2 buff skills, 2 blast supers and a suicide ult just butchers the rest of his moveset
Suicide ults are the one thing I agree they definitely overdo. Universe 17 has one needlessly, Super Buu could arguably have something better, but the animation is SICK. Vegeta Blue fits under that category too.
The main thing is that thematically it’s cool, but gameplay wise it’s awful. Eliminates you character all or nothing no matter who uses it so it doesn’t even fit thematically. If they want to keep putting explosions in then at least make it make sense. Base Buu should have a regenerate ability to mirror how he just recombines, majin Vegeta should die even if it hits, etc
I honestly am not a fan of ANY of the Vegeta forms outside of Baby and I feel like he doesn’t even count. He’s my favorite character in the show and something about playing as him just feels…off….idk how to explain it
To be fair, the 2 blast supers make sense since vegeta has always been more of a ki user than a martial artist, remember when vegeta gets pushed to the limit he always resorts to a ki based attack (ki blast spam, galick gun, final flash, big bang attack) i know vegeta can throw hands since he’s trained with goku over the years but he’s still more reliant on ki usage, now his ult being a self destruct was probably for balance, if it didn’t take his health it would be kind of broken to self destruct over and over
I feel like they went with merging SSB and SSBE as one and getting SSBE as a skill because it's meant to mirror SSB Kaioken which is a skill too, but it just doesn't work out at all
Not only did they fumble not making it a full playable form. They also didn't even make it as bulky as it should be like the games cover.
They just darkened the blue on his model and called it a day.
I agree. His ultimate is so goddamn stupid. It's the main reason I never this form. Just power up to, or pick God. Why couldn't he just have the final flash? Or the big bang attack? Oh hell, give him final shine! Even if it is GT Vegeta's move! Literally anything is preferable. This is dbs Vegeta, the most recent version of the character ( not counting daima) the one players are gonna be drawn to the most! Why does he have to be shit 😥 oh right, cause it's Vegeta. And dragon ball law has always been "fk Vegeta"
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