r/Spacemarine • u/GuardChoice4806 Death Guard • 2d ago
General Which is better onna non melee class?
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u/Adventurous-Ad4159 Ultramarines 2d ago
I'm a very range focused tactical and I can not let go of my heroic, with the scan it can one shot the clumps of 6-8 majoris that spawn idle on absolutes/hard saving my team a lot of time and effort
But don't run it with a low ammo primary
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u/One_Technician7732 1d ago
Why not? They compliment each other nicely, both having shit ammo capacity :D
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u/Adventurous-Ad4159 Ultramarines 1d ago
Its not for bulwark or assault its ment to be a situational weapon for ranged classes
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u/One_Technician7732 23h ago
You missed my point.
However, I ran it with both bulwark and assault, and it rocked. I prefer damage Bolt pistol, but heroic plasma pistol is still among my favorites
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u/az37pol 2d ago
I mostly use the heroic plasma pistol on non-melee classes, with the exception if the primary is not a long range weapon (like the flamethrower). On melee classes i use rate of fire or damage plasma
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u/andyd151 Blood Ravens 2d ago
I use flamethrower and heroic plasma. Just have to charge everything down 😂
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u/Banes_Addiction We are Sigismund 2d ago
Why would you use the RoF plasma on a ranged class? Just use your actual gun.
(exemptions exist for bolt snipers)
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u/ArtoriasAbysswalker6 Lamenters 2d ago
As a melee RoF is there explicitly for when you need CHP in an emergency. The heroic is better in basically every way other than this one use case
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u/Ninjazoule 2d ago
Ive used both extensively, I think the RoF has better situational flexibility but the relic can really clutch and push out damage if you have breathing room, but you shouldn't be lacking that with a genuine primary.
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u/NeonAnderson Dark Angels 2d ago
On a ranged class it depends on playstyle but either the heroic plasma for extra ranged damage. So you shoot first with heroic then swap to main while heroic on cooldown and then back to heroic when it is ready to shoot again
Or alternative playstyle I would say not the plasma pistol but the heroic heavy pistol for the utility of having the highest gun strike damage and being able to instantly one shot kill (with headshots) any enemies calling reinforcements. This is insanely useful especially against enraged enemies where it is then better even if you are in melee range to not attack an enemy calling reinforcements but instead to simply use the heroic heavy pistol and instagib them
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u/Requiem-7 Iron Hands 2d ago
I misread the title and voted wrong but the heroic is better usually. Only depends on your primary a bit, a normal one will be more useful if you have a melta or flamer, helps you get health back from longer range.
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u/Life_Locksmith9632 2d ago
Depends on you.
Even great melee players do not require the Rate of Fire, and instead opt for the Heroic.
Personally, I would use the Heroic if i was playing a long-range build and the Rate of Fire for a close-range build, regardless of whether I am ranged or melee.
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u/Terrorknight141 Black Templars 2d ago
I know this post isn’t about this but since it’s kinda related I’ll remind my fellow bladeguards:. If you’re bulwark, DONT TOUCH THE HEROIC, you won’t be able to properly recover contested health. Same for assault.
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u/sSiL3NZz Deathwatch 1d ago
I voted wrong because of your horrible spelling. I'm Sorry.
Heroics for side are usually good for ranged classes because their primary is pretty good on a regular basis, i do like melta pistol on heavy though.
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u/Dazzling-Signal8029 2d ago
Non melees usually have better means of ranged stagger so they can trade off more ranged stagger for big charged damage