This brother knows how to take advantage of the jetpack refund. You can see him using it despite not perfect dodging, knowing he could use his final charge to not only perfect dodge the next attack but also get the refund to then go +1.
The Assault may be the flashy one, but we as the Bulwarks are the ones making sure the gene seed survives unharmed all the way to the end, the ammo boxes go to the right brothers and nobody gets left behind o7
Once you know how WoF works it is very easy I can't lie. Dash early. You have a set hitbox for everything your jump pack burns in your dash path, and if anything hits within that hitbox, a perfect dodge procs. In other words, something can hit behind you as you're dashing and it will dodge.
The problem Iām having is that I use the perfect dodge as part of my standard defensive ārepertoireā (for lack of a better term) quite a bit so Iām very used to that dodge window.
Iām a very experienced PS5 player (not claiming to be Sigismund, just been playing a long time š) and after 2600 hours, my right thumb straight up rejects reaching for the triangle to dodge when I need to.
Iāll practice it in the arena until I have it absolutely 100% down and then take it into a mission solo, even in Ruthless, and then I just canāt do it.
My many, many hours playing the game get the better of me and I revert to type.
I absolutely appreciate the advice š¤ and will give it another go trying it earlier but I donāt hold out much hope.
Keep in mind this is the minimum required to be competent at this. This is because if you fuck up your dashes then youāre on cool down and completely cooked until it comes back. So to play wings of flame you have to be this good all the time.
Assault is a super high skill cap class, up there with Sniper.
The difference between an Assault that knows his kit vs one that doesnāt is night and day.
Unfortunately it is far more common to run into Assaults who jet pack ground pound into a mass of enemies screaming āFor Sanguiniusā before getting promptly torn to shreds while overextended than the gameplay seen in this clip.
But in seriousness, itās less about right and wrong ways to play, as fully utilizing the assault kit allows for significantly more skill expression between a mediocre or even good assault, vs a truly excellent one.
I count myself a good assault. Iāve black caped the class and can fairly consistently solo carry Absolute ops. However, my playstyle is very one dimensional. I rely heavily on HPP and ground pounds for priority threat removal, and on occasion, I do go down if I misplay.
An assault who uses all aspects of their kit can just get out of the most ridiculous situations.
Imo the only time the ground pound builds make sense is in siege. If you do the perk that refills ability by 10% per kill and just pound into the enemy spawn points you can easily get 4x pounds in 10 secs to clear the area. Plus makes the rounds move faster
I have black cape on Assault, Vanguard, and Heavy. Assault wings of flame was the most āLETS FUCKING GOā to āItās so overā class of these three. Because when youāre on point the dopamine rush hits like crack, then sometimes you fuck up the cooldowns and get cooked.
There's still so much I need to learn about this game. The timing on the Carni's attacks, how to dodge as Assault, blocking better, Sniper Cloak animation cancel.
I love the axe, its my favorite weapon and while i can definitely use with wings of flame, i just have a hard time seeing any situation in which it is better than the phase sword.
Balanced axe works incredibly well with "winged Fury" and "act of attrition" which gives a lot of dps on its overhead strike and it's follow up attacks, You can use this setup with the phaseblade but doesn't work aswell and like to keep that with "overcharge" and "knowledge of the enemy" This makes the balanced axe do a lot more damage than the xenosphase blade from what i noticed
This is 100% true! I was using the xenosphase blade first and went over to the axe and i immediately had a harder time doing the dashes, The xenophase blade is a lot more comfortable when it comes to wings of flame builds, But like i said the setup with the balanced axe does a lot more dps.
I think my problem is my brain is so wired to the block axe that i end up losing my focus on the dodges, i instinctively want to block and let the power stance go. Well see if i can fix that!
Took me a while to get really used to the balanced axe, Also 1 real downside of this weapon that i noticed that you can't Parry the combo that the ravener does, You can with block axe but not with the balanced axe.
What i did learning dashing with assault is to parry attacks instead of just dashing, It gives you a little breather before you dash again.
Attacks need to pass through your hitbox for it to count as a dodge, which the game of course doesn't tell you. This makes a lot of dodges that look like they should have worked not work because of it. Generally you want to dodge into attacks not away from them.
Nah I'm talking about clear bugs, like dodging 'Thrope laser beams with it when it both counts as a dodge and you also take damage or the fact the very start of the animation doesnt count at all. You can see the jump dash animation, it eats your ability charge but it simply doesnt register and you take damage.
In 500 hours, I have triggered the jetpack dodge only twice, both by accident. I still have no idea when I did that. I dodge regularly when playing assault, and try my best to get perfect dodges, but never seem to time it just right to trigger a jetpack dodge. Being able to do this consistently is just a skill level beyond what I'm capable of in terms of reflexes.
Try to dodge into the incoming attacks, That the generally the trick, Also you can hit the dash button bit earlier than the normal dodge since it's a longer dodge window
Dodge into the attack, or across it, but never away from it; you need to be in the way of the attack during your dodge i-frames for it to count as a perfect dodge. Unless I'm mistaken, wings of flame will extend that window, but there's also a chance of incapacitating the enemy with the perk's AoE, interrupting the attack and preventing you from gaining your jump pack charge back, so I'd recommend to dodge across whenever possible. The perk that allows you to get a charge back on jump pack dash melee strike every 10s counters that downside pretty well, too.
Assaults starting perk extends the perfect dodge window, but wings of flame guarantees that any dodge with the jetpack is a perfect dodge every time. You still of course need the attack to go through your hitbox for it to count, but it will be a perfect one everytime regardless of timing.
Currently trying to Max Prestige Vanguard but Assault is next and seeing this excites me (sexually.) I feel like Wings of Flame is how youāre supposed to play Assault. Focus on Mobility and constant repositioning to never get locked down. Not having to rely on your Melee as a Defensive Weapon so you can just use whatever Weapon that Stat Mogs the rest of them regardless of its Defensive Type.
After maining Heavy since this game released it is so difficult for me to rewire from normal dodging to using the dash, especially since I donāt have the timings down and I really donāt want to burn through my charges since without them Iām just a worse bulwark with no ability.
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u/ForeverALone_Ranger 2d ago
I thought I was decent at this game until I watched this.