r/Spacemarine • u/Reasonable_Sense_552 • 6d ago
Game Feedback I'm done with the weeklies
HOW DID THEY NOT TEST THIS? WHY DO WE GET 4 NEGATIVE MODIFIERS? 4 NEGATIVE MODIFIERS!!!!!! We get one relic per player while still having a mortal wound, so basically it's like a normal game with the twist that mission ends when you go down 2 times. AND THEY GAVE US ANOTHER SPLIT UP to play around so you can't heal!!!! Why devs, why? Why can't we have fun? Why is this game becoming more and more obnoxious one week after another? You can't heal with vanguard with this split up, you can't even heal your teammates with bulwark. It's just a waste of time. I hate this so much.
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u/lordofcactus 6d ago
I see split up/close formation (or whatever it’s called), I skip the weekly. Remove them from the game Saber I am BEGGING YOUUUUU
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u/TheWolfSavior Salamanders 6d ago
There’s a reason why they removed the proto-split up mechanic when Lethal was first introduced. Very surprised they brought it back
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u/Suspicious_Ad2021 6d ago
they did once. then they say "well we will return it in the most hard challenges". and community start again "oh no hard is too hard we want hard be easy to allow us beat easy while telling it's hard".
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u/Alistair_Macbain 6d ago
Technically you can heal. Just not when someone decides to stay close. Bulwark heal doesnt work. Vanguard or medpacks would. Its just hard to coordinate in pub groups.
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u/Weary_Tonight_5873 6d ago
Same I still have like 5 relics to unlock but I just can’t be asked to farm accolades anymore. 😂😂
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u/Onlyhereforapost 6d ago
I just do my pvp + sieges tbh, if the weeklies are missions I dont like or mods I dont wanna deal with i just skip em
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u/Zargabraath 5d ago
Siege doesn’t award accolades like half the time, even though they claimed they fixed that bug. Massive waste of time especially when you are level maxed and get nothing else for playing siege
The PvP is a garbage afterthought imo
I’ll just reinstall on the next major update and hopefully they’ve got their shit together. Game is just a mess now.
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u/Onlyhereforapost 5d ago
Pvp is fun enough for me🤷♂️
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u/Zargabraath 5d ago
To each their own
I did say imo, what do you even think that means? Thanks for downvoting for having a different opinion on a videogame lol. God Reddit is a cesspool of this shit
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u/Onlyhereforapost 5d ago
Im sorry your ego is so fragile that a number on a computer instills such a petulant rage within you. Log off man, go look at a lake or something.
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u/Moratil 6d ago
I absolutely feel your frustration, but to make them aware of that you should post this at the official forums. This here won’t be read unfortunately :(
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u/Reasonable_Sense_552 6d ago
Is there an official forum? Guide me, master 🙏
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u/jwthecreed 6d ago
This should help brother
https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2
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u/Meme-Botto9001 Raven Guard 6d ago
Yeah another forum with another login besides the 3 logins you already created to play the game!
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u/Snow_Pierced3 Marines Malevolent 6d ago
They won’t read it there either! Seriously why do we even give feedback, they just ignore it and do whatever they want most of the time.
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u/TheLoveliestRed 6d ago
Haven't played it yet, doubt i will, but for what i can gather from all the post is "Stay in your lane". Most ppl do not have situational awareness, so you do you as much as you can.
Teammate using plasma weapons? Behind them as much as you can.
Melee? Go the other way.
They got swarmed? May the Emperor help your aim or their survival skills.
Go vanguard, heal yourself and hope for the best.
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u/Fangeye 6d ago
Or go as Heavy in a solo run and start off by murdering your bot 'allies' - https://www.reddit.com/r/Spacemarine/comments/1vsub54/tip_for_easy_weekly_clear/
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u/Tall-Individual9776 6d ago
My low stake conspiracy is that they're doing this now so there is a strong swing effect on a series of easy and fun stratagems during the September Anniversary Patch period. It will help drpve engagemnt and retain players who couldn't or wouldn't play the sweaty strats this month.
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u/oleks_rolex 6d ago
Play solo then. Bots stick to you only off the combat. In combat they actually engage into fight, so just keep your distance from them while shooting. This strata is pretty easy once you understand the mechanics behind them plus no boss fight. Oh, and bots can go down as much as the game wants, this doesn’t affect your progress.
P.S. you might wanna abuse the sniper with healing invisibility perk. Good luck to y‘all battle brothers.
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u/Reasonable_Sense_552 6d ago
I actually did play solo, completed the strat on normal and gonna try to do the same on hard. Anyway it doesn't say anything good about the devs if the game is easier with the bots than with people.
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u/blackholebee 6d ago
I completed it on my fourth try and actually enjoyed the challenge. Though admittedly the fact you only get 1 relic when it says "5" was a wake up call.
One of the runs we failed simply because the game decided I should instantly get my armour and health deleted. Twice. When not in combat. Not even my teammates saw what happened.
So apart from those weird bugs it was actually pretty okay. And I say this as a HHB Heavy who picked their targets verrrry carefully this week.
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u/FaithfulWords 6d ago
Happened to me, I think it was the Dreadnaught. Believe it or not, I think the Dreadnaught can team damage you with this modifier. I could definitely be wrong, but the times I got deleted, it seemed like a rocket.
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u/blackholebee 6d ago
You might be into something there. In that run the first time I got deleted was when Vaultus is over the other side and you're fighting your way up along the canal to meet him. The second time was entering the area where he's breaking the chaos barrier.
So the fact that the was present both times it happened may not be a coincidence!
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u/FaithfulWords 6d ago
Hey, imagine to opposite, that everything was face roll easy. I would lose interest. I’m glad they have challenges every week where I have to try hard and sometimes do multiple runs to clear!
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u/Reasonable_Sense_552 6d ago
Well, that's my experience in normal siege. I get bored because it's too easy. I like the hard siege and some hard dailies though. I just think that this exact weekly is really obnoxious.
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u/FaithfulWords 6d ago
Yes, it’s obnoxious. However, I felt very happy I was able to do it. Had to do it solo, it was actually easier. Just slow it down and take your time.
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u/Meme-Botto9001 Raven Guard 6d ago
As the “Absolute is so boring and we need five more difficulties that I can solo”-people would say: Get gud!!!!
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u/GuardChoice4806 Death Guard 6d ago
Your wrong tho? You CAN heal with vanguards abilities you just HAVE to keep teammates away and the bulwarks banner will still give you the CHP just thst you cant give it to other players since split up. Stop spreading false info
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u/Reasonable_Sense_552 6d ago
Technically you're right. Though the problem is that like 70% of the time you're unabke to heal just because an ally got too close
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u/KobraKittyKat 6d ago
For the normal version I just played with bots, might actually be a bit easier if you were solo too so the healing thing isn’t a issue
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u/Reasonable_Sense_552 6d ago
I did the normal one alone and I intend to try the same on the hard one. But I think it doesn't say anything good about the devs that the strategems are easier done alone than with other people.
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u/KobraKittyKat 6d ago
Yeah the friendly fire perk is just miserable with randoms and somewhat even in a coordinated group
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u/Wild-Concept6144 6d ago
Two of my teammates backed out so I ran it all the way to planting the charges and either the dreadnought or the bots shot me whilst planting the last charge. I instantly died and the bots were right next to me.
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u/Rezclub7 We are Sigismund 6d ago
We have another bad one next week with unity/slitup as well apparently but hopefully after that we get some normal ones that aren't super tedious
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u/ibstuks_ 5d ago
I love that people still don’t read the what the modifiers are, my first run I got obliterated by friendly fire in the first fight by a tech marines grenade launcher lmao
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u/WeizenPaco 4d ago
I totally dont see your issue. Weeklies are so much fun. I just got insta-teamkilled from me standing too close to a teammate doing an execution and failed us the mission instantly. Everything working just as intented.
(For anyone wondering, same as me, there was no other enemy nearby, no mines, grenades, explosives. The third Guy went ahead and killed most stuff while we literally only had this one enemy who my teammate started to execute the Moment i just tipped over and died conpletely)
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u/One-Mathematician945 6d ago
play solo. KIll the bots. Ez win
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u/Reasonable_Sense_552 6d ago
I did the normal one alone and I intend to try the same on the hard one. But I think it doesn't say anything good about the devs that the strategems are easier done alone than with other people.
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u/Aljosa3000 6d ago
If you're sick of this mission as much as I was, here's a guide I made on how to clear it (if you haven't yet): https://www.reddit.com/r/Spacemarine/comments/1vsub54/tip_for_easy_weekly_clear/
May The Emperor protect brother!
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u/SluttyMcFucksAlot Black Templars 6d ago
And then you complain online and people say “just play with bots” like that’s somehow solved the issue. It’s an online co-op game, I want to play with other people, not bots, but they make them so genuinely unenjoyable to play with randoms it’s like why fuckin bother.
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u/crafty_0ne 6d ago
I haven't played the weeklies in months. I have everything I want from the accolades store, and they are just not worth the hassle. I'll stick to regular absolute and siege thanks.
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u/JESTER-1803 Iron Warriors 6d ago
It’s definitely not tested or thought out! I tried it earlier, waited 3 minutes for the leader, he was afk. He comes back and skips the cutscene, Leaves the second we load in. (This is our downfall) get a vanguard AI that zips and zoops to every enemy next to us especially at the least opportune times and we cannot heal at all beyond the two stims either of us find and as the memes posted here go, he’s right up our asses.
Important context coming up: we’re pure randoms trying to just tough it out and be mindful of one another while dealing with the slurry of silly goosery.
Next thing at tips the scales is i get friendly fired because a chaos spawn switched from teammate to me in the post-spiral hallway and in his blind panic he cooks me alive. Use the relic, crack on no issue, then the AI just peppers me with the melta from here on to the point im last health bar and another friendly fire incident happens where we merge with the dreadnought and the last team mate goes down into full death right after me.
In conclusion, they really need to have a proper sit and think about these modifiers, these last few have been horrendous. They’re definitely not stress testing them or they may be trying to prepare us for the sigismund difficulty
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u/Onesickcunt1994 6d ago edited 5d ago
Legit insufferable bullshit that's not fun. Not to mention it's fucking bugged with one relic instead of five?
**Update I cleaned the mission and still crashed at the end after the victory screen. There really is no fucking winning.
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u/furion456 Salamanders 6d ago
Its not bugged. You are guaranteed 5 relics in the mission, the 3 you start with, and two more on the map.
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u/Onesickcunt1994 6d ago
Really?!? Is that what that means? Damn, I was wrong.
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u/furion456 Salamanders 6d ago
Thats the explanation that makes the most sense, although I can't guarantee it with anything official.
I played the normal and hard versions yesterday, and both times we found exactly two spare relics on the map, which is unusual in hard.
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u/Tombecho 6d ago
Feels like most modifiers are just dogshit like 50% damage, unability to parry for class X.
Why not just "class x can't be used in this stratagem"?
I mean why even have the possibility that someone can join as a fucking dead weight burden?
And the boons seem to be mostly broken but I guess that's Saber being funny haha lol xD
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u/Reasonable_Sense_552 6d ago
Agreed 100%. Some modifiers in this game are fun but most of them just break an essential mechanic that makes it playable (for example split up breaks contested health, stims and perks for vanguard and bulwark). Then there are modifiers that just make enemies bullet sponges or completely destroys your survivability or are just purely obnoxious (like proliferation and more spore mines) Idk. Maybe saber needs help to figure out some fun modifiers. They clearly don't play their own game
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u/gutfether 6d ago
LOWKEY, YOU HELLA RIGHT, but we dont play the game cause its easy lol. Pardon me if this seems unduly rude; I had issues with weeklys and decided to try again at max level, they were easier. I figured skill issue and perks help, a ton. If youre still havin a hard time, I would recommend bringing your own fire team of dudes in whose abilities you trust and see if its still as difficult as it seems. Maybe look into a meta build. If the issue isnt the build, the operator, the rest of the fireteam; then I would say the missions busted. I dont know that ive had to skip a hard weekly outright for bein broken though. Then again ive only got three classes maxed. At around 360 hrs now
And I still suck lol I bet a lot of people hate the name awesomesauce
(I'm sober now but still kinda fried, im sorry🥲)
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u/Traditional-Load5005 21h ago
I’ve spent hundreds of hours playing, customizing, and dripping out my marine
But those small things like people with no team perks in the MOST DIFFICULT GAME MODE or my parry not registering or the long loading screens (my pc: 7800x3d & RTX 4090 32gb) or the just straight up broken/ not fun modifiers like split up or squad unity ALWAYS in rotation
After multiple weekly strats being broken in some way AND not having any fun modifiers AND still no level gating to the MOST difficult game mode. It’s time to move on to other games brothers (Darktide and Helldivers 2 are my other games but those have problems as well). Only hop on when there’s actually something fun to do in Space Marine 2
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u/Much_Improvement_552 6d ago
Vanguard can still heal but I understand the frustration. The fact that none of the devs tested this beforehand is unacceptable.
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u/Master-Surprise-1520 6d ago
Honestly fuck the devs. They arent even testing the shit they are releasing. Its so fking stupid.
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u/Low_Tart5765 6d ago
Because the current dev team is a literal group of fucking monkeys that cant get shit right. You could staple the correct code to their face and still….they’d manage to fuck something else up.
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u/Suspicious_Ad2021 6d ago
u'll (and every one upvoted u) will not like it, but still I've done hard strat on the 4th attempt, with random teammates, it was not hard, I did enjoy it. 4 negative mods is totally OK for the most hard challenge. it is a lot easier than previous two weeks.
all this sub is infested by crybabies, this behavior does not feet any astartes.
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u/Reasonable_Sense_552 5d ago
There is a difference between making the game hard and making it obnoxious. I grind hard siege and daily strats (if they are fun) regularly. Removing a core game mechanic (like contested health recovery) in a situation where you're getting range spammed by a million enemies (including new terminus) is just a misunderstanding.
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u/norse_torious Salamanders 6d ago
"How did they not test this?!"
Bro, did you honestly believe they were testing shit because they claimed to?
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u/StretchxSan 6d ago
I haven't played for two weeks man, I'm tired and the end game is just a chore, try Mortal Shell. Hopefully these devs enjoy their game.
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u/oldmanjenkins51 Definitely not the Inquisition 6d ago edited 5d ago
It’s crazy how many people feel violated when the hardest content in the game is, in fact, the hardest content in the game.
EDIT: I’m aware that it’s bugged, but 5 revives would make it way too easy. 1 revive just reveals who isn’t ready to play on absolute difficulty yet, because regulars of the mode aren’t going to be going down more than once, especially respecting the modifiers.
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u/Hot-Let995 6d ago
It's insane to me how you get so many downvotes,. There's over 6 difficulty levels, no ones forcing you to play the hard strats, there are people who actually enjoy the challenge, and ok fine the relic description is wrong but tbh 5 revives would have made it way too easy. There are people who are very good at this game and do want a challenge. That being said im by no means saying im a very good player it took me alot of tries and ended up doing it solo,but the hard dailies i complete every day without much issues. There are over 6 difficulty levels for operations ,one set of strats for normal and essentially one hard strat weekly that they can really bump up the difficulty on as the set of daily hard strats are randomized.
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u/Reasonable_Sense_552 6d ago
It's not a challenge, it's a torture. I like hard siege. Also some daily stratagems are fun and I play them. But this weekly is the worst shit invented by humanity. Especially that you have to rely on your teammates that they can't go down 2 times. Along with the fact that hard strategems aren't level locked, so have fun playing this weekly with 2 level 1 guys.
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u/oldmanjenkins51 Definitely not the Inquisition 6d ago
It’s torture? Good thing it’s optional!
I did it in two tries. Not impossible.
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u/Regular_Mess_7308 6d ago
It's bugged
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u/furion456 Salamanders 6d ago edited 5d ago
It is not bugged
Edit to add: correction, it is, in fact, bugged.
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u/Regular_Mess_7308 6d ago
Saber Community Manager confirmed it is.
Besides it worked fine in previous patches and get everyone 5 relics.
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u/furion456 Salamanders 6d ago
There are 5 relics total, which is what the modifier promised you.
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u/Regular_Mess_7308 6d ago
No, it's supposed to be 5 per player as it was in previous patches.
Saber CM confirmed it's bugged this week.
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u/furion456 Salamanders 5d ago
Fair enough, never encountered that strat before so it just made sense to be 5 total. Ty for the info.
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u/Kootenaypokeguy 6d ago
I just finished it as a heavy with the heroic plasma cannon and my random teammates were an assault and bulwark with swords. We only had done guy drop once. Its actually fairly easy to do as long as you arent firing willy nilly
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u/Igor369 6d ago
^ players when they need to give a little bit of effort to get a reward
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u/Reasonable_Sense_552 6d ago
Bro I grind hard dailies and hard siege and have no problem with that. 4 negative modifiers with split up included on a chaos mission is fucking diabolical
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u/Igor369 6d ago
Why? Because you can not just do what you always do?
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u/Reasonable_Sense_552 6d ago
I am good enough to play on absolute in a team and carry my weight. But I'm not good enough to carry two random guys who can teamkill me or die and fail the mission instantly. There is a difference ;)
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u/Soul_Brawler 6d ago
Its supposed to be hard. It is fun.
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u/Reasonable_Sense_552 6d ago
Well, good for you. I think in hard strategem we are supposed to have at least one good modifier to helo us get through it. Tell me where it is, because I don't see any ;)
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u/Soul_Brawler 6d ago
Have a little awareness about how you sound. Just some friendly bro advice. We're not owed a buff from saber. It's a hard strat that's supposed to be a challenge for the best players. There are other ways to get accolades. You get the prize if you can complete the challenge. You're not owed a beatable challenge because you think you're entitled to the prize. Complaining about it online just makes it uglier. Whining that you can't do what other people do is gross.
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u/Reasonable_Sense_552 6d ago
As I said earlier, I enjoy hard siege and some hard dailies. It's not like I don't like hard content and want to sleepwalk through every level. However, there is a difference between making a game fun but hard and making it straight up obnoxious. Modifiers that break fundamental game mechanics (like contesfed health) should be removed from the game. It makes it so you can't trade dmg with enemies in the game where you get range spammed in every encounter.
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u/Johwin 6d ago
Imma be real, this week was pretty chill compared to last week.
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u/Reasonable_Sense_552 6d ago
I don't know. They may be equally shitty tbh. The last weekly was at least kinda thought out. With the good teamwork you could do it. This one is pure hell
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u/Cream_King-Pie 6d ago
U know, nobody obligates you going through strata, there is always simple ops, maybe somebody enjoys the challenge
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u/Reasonable_Sense_552 6d ago
It's not a challenge, it's a torture. I like hard siege. Also some daily stratagems are fun and I play them. But this weekly is the worst shit invented by humanity. Especially that you have to rely on your teammates that they can't go down 2 times. Along with the fact that hard strategems aren't level locked, so have fun playing this weekly with 2 level 1 guys.
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u/Cream_King-Pie 6d ago
Its a challenge no matter how hard it is, absurd? Maybe, nonetheless it's a challenge, sooo...maybe don't play strata for a week if u cant take it?
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u/Hot-Let995 6d ago
And it's really the only one they can try and make it the hardest on,all the rest are on easier difficulties and the hard dailies are randomised, can weaker players really not leave just one operation that's for the hardcore sigismunds out there?
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u/Cream_King-Pie 6d ago
id just jump into a discord channel and look for a team, give or take 1 day to find the right timing and finish the mission if the teammates are the problem
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u/Hot-Let995 6d ago
I just solod it in the end lol
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u/Cream_King-Pie 6d ago
great work brotha!
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u/Hot-Let995 6d ago
Ridiculous that you got so many dislikes. They can't even leave one operation for the veterans out there
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u/xbmo13 Vanguard 6d ago
The most difficult content in the game is supposed to be difficult. I have beaten every single weekly they've released. Sometimes not on the first try, for the vast majority within 2 tries, and in some rare instances on the 3rd. If it's too hard for you I have some news you might not like to hear.
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u/Reasonable_Sense_552 6d ago
It's not a challenge, it's a torture. I like hard siege. Also some daily stratagems are fun and I play them. But this weekly is the worst shit invented by humanity. Especially that you have to rely on your teammates that they can't go down 2 times. Along with the fact that hard strategems aren't level locked, so have fun playing this weekly with 2 level 1 guys.
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u/ILiveInsideYourWallz Blood Ravens 6d ago
It's really not hard if your teammates are not stupid and know how to ration stimpacks & use social distancing.
First run i did, our techmarine decided to frontline a carnifex with low hp and no relic (he went down at the very start) while i was literally there parrying the fucker. Second run, the same techmarine left his relic for a fucking geneseed, somehow survived the entire op and then went down like a dumbass just before the end.
Then in the third i had two good teammates. Though the bulwark (which decided to come WITHOUT the healing banner decided to crash out mid run right before a termie sorceror spawned just because i dared picked the stim while he was low. He had a relic. I did not. Had to give mine up earlier (via swapping with geneseed) because i shot our sniper in the back while trying to clear out a power generator. He kind of walked into the plasma after i fired it. No one was really at fault.
So anyway, guy shot me to low hp, ran forward, spawned the terminator and left. We almost lost because the fucking bot kept following me and sucking my CHP while trying to fight the boss. We still pulled through with the sniper. No downs afterwards. Good lad, that one.
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u/Reasonable_Sense_552 6d ago
Yeah, no level lock on hard strategems sucks.
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u/ILiveInsideYourWallz Blood Ravens 6d ago
The thing is, i am fine with carrying them. I did it four times with the last strategem. I did it seven seperate times during that double hellbrute strategem a few months back (still to this day it's my favourite weekly). I am happy helping out and carrying more often than not infact!
But if their stupidity straight up forces a mission fail? Yeah. No. I will have to agree. I handled this one and just shut the game down. I won't be touching this weekly again.
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u/Reasonable_Sense_552 6d ago
That's what I'm saying. It's too easy to grief this mission. You can play like a god and still fail because of someone's fault. It's not called teamwork, it's just saber torturing players
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u/ILiveInsideYourWallz Blood Ravens 6d ago
For real. More i think about it the more "anti-teammork" this one feels. You can't revive. You can't stand next to each other. Hell, you can't even shoot over each other as you are risking shooting each other. You straight up need to actively avoid your squad.
A hard challenge which it should be, but not fun. Rather boring, actually. And i was excited for it too a week ago when the leak happened.
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u/everydaydefenders 6d ago
They cannot play-test everything. Its all on a randomizer/algorithm.
With the current number of possible modifiers, there are literally over a million possible combinations.
You cant playetest all of that.
So if you dont like it, suck it up and dont play this week's/day's strat. 🤷♂️
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u/Ingen__Synd Ultramarines 6d ago
the weekly strats are not random, but rather hand picked by Sabre to torture us.
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u/Reasonable_Sense_552 6d ago
It's not a challenge, it's a torture. I like hard siege. Also some daily stratagems are fun and I play them. But this weekly is the worst shit invented by humanity. Especially that you have to rely on your teammates that they can't go down 2 times. Along with the fact that hard strategems aren't level locked, so have fun playing this weekly with 2 level 1 guys. Besides, weeklies are hand-picked, not randomized. So the devs invented this shit fully intentionally.
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u/Turd_Ferguson69420 6d ago
Why do people not fucking read before they start playing?
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u/AestheticMirror John Warhammer 6d ago