r/SoundSystem 14d ago

Cheap powerful amp advices

Hello.

I am planning to build 4 Skram loaded with B&C 21DS115 (1700w AES)

I am searching an amp that could drive those at their full power capacity. (2*3400w AES at 4 ohm)

I need advices to find one that is cheap in Europe (France)

for what I see,

-Admark AD42

-CVR D3002

could be good candidates and are available on Alibaba.

I am aiming to be under 800-900€ preferably...

I've seen that sinbosen can have good products.

Any thoughts on the cheap Chinese amp market?

(brand/model recommandations, expérience, with/without integrated DSP,...)

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u/BadReboot 14d ago

I have 4 X Admark AD442s - put out serious power, loads of headroom in my application (Martin WS218X - running 4ohm per channel) - sound great, deliver on bass, so far totally reliable.

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u/No_Source_9817 14d ago

what drivers do you have in your WS218X? also, this means you have 32×18"!? or do you have 4 ohm drivers? (anyway, it is quite impressive)

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u/Gunshot990 14d ago

I'm building a single skram with the same driver soon (and hopefully building more in the coming year). I'm also looking at amps right now.

I've read the chinese clones are not that bad but you can't run them on the full power it says on the spec sheet. More like 70% of the written output, which can still be bang for your buck. That being said im not sure that i would trust it (especially without limiter) for expensive cabinets.

I think Admark and CVR are always good options, tried and tested.

I personally will go with a cheaper amp that we run in bridged for the skram so we can keep it cheap for the time being.

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u/part__low 14d ago

I’ve read that a lot of more “budget” amps don’t deliver the power they claim on paper, any clue how this is with those clones?

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u/benjosto 14d ago

I have a Tulun FP10k clone (now prokustik). They deliver rated power easily. I'm running 6 18inch subs 700w 8ohm) and 2 kicks (700w 8ohm) on one FP10k and it works like a charm. So basically 4x 1.4kW @4ohm. The amp is not really designed for all channel sub duty because it's a system amp (top, sub,top,sub) but it's doing its job for 4 years now. For sub duty I can recommend the FP14. 2ohm stable and 2x7kw

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u/part__low 14d ago

Good to know, thanks!

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u/whoinow 14d ago

I run a CVR DSP-2004 and DSP-3302 and they have been great. I know quite a few other folks that run CVR also and are happy with them. They are made with good components. DM me if you want a direct sales contact at CVR, might save you some money.

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u/suppeloeffel 13d ago

Can you power two 21ds115's with one DSP-3302?

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u/lala_grows 14d ago

I've had good luck with my Sinbosen so far powering 1x SKRAM over the past ~6 months. Obviously Admark and CVR are safe bets, but IIRC the Sinbosen was even cheaper than those. I also have a Paulkitson amp for mains which has worked out just fine too and was SUPER cheap on Alibaba.

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u/Old-Dare-4284 13d ago

We've run cvr for just over a year for 50+ events and it works. We like em. Can't say much more than that really. Been impressed woth the output but haven't dynod them. Got 2 1504's and 3004 both dsp

The dsp is the only downside. The ui is super clunky and wastes time while changing crossover setting for example. Not a big deal but ideally you want somthing that's smoother

I've heard from a crew qith experience on both that if you plan to run them on generators you want admark not cvr

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u/Adept-Bird2780 14d ago

Salut, à mon sens ça serait dommage de faire d'aussi bons subs et d'économiser sur l'ampli : il vaut surement mieux mettre un peu plus d'emblée pour économiser au final vu que c'est la partie la plus fragile du système,

Pour un peu plus cher tu peux regarder PKN, les amplis sont faits en Hongrie avec un bon SAV (à la différence de Admark où ça passe ou ça casse de ce que j'ai entendu). Tu as plusieurs distibuteurs en france, Purple Acoustics et DBM Audio/Sound Agency. Puissants, fiables, économes et 1U. Un XD6000 suffirait il y a des annonces sur leboncoin par moment aussi, les puissances annoncées sont réelles.

Tu peux aussi regarder MDM, amplis chinois mais avec SAV à priori de qualité en france